Let's beat Penn State.
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Exactly, and he does not win games against highly rated teams despite the fact that he can get almost anyone admitted to PSU. Franklin hired OSU's DC for 3.1 million, and he gave up 42 points to a winless team. He might be a good recruiter, but that would quickly change at NU. As of right now Franklin has the same record as David Braun, and they are tied for the number of Big Ten Championships won.
In 15 years of coaching his career winning percentage is just a little over 68%. His bowl game record is 8 wins and 7 losses. He had a couple of decent years at Vandy, both 9 and 4 but has never won a Big Ten Championship. They can have him at PSU where he is making an obscene amount of money and his buyout is 50 million.
It would be very hard to root for a team with a coach whose face you want to punch every time you see him. Move on.
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THose two 9-4 seasons at Vandy were that program's 3rd and 4th 9 win seasons EVER (they've never won 10) and their first since 1915. 1915! They hadn't won 9 games before Franklin showed up since before the United States entered the first world war.
If "never won a Big Ten Championship" is the criteria for a poor coach hire... congrats, you're not going to like our coach hire.
I'm not talking about our next coaching hire, I'm talking about Penn State's coach. Hope he stays there and keeps on trying to win something meaningful. It certainly won't be this year. Your b.s. is amusing, though. As my late mother used to say, in your case, "the lights are on but nobody's home."
Agree that Franklin should be the LAST coach we hire. Even if we hired him, and he had one or two good seasons, he would be gone in a flash with the first "blue blood" offer he got. Bad bad idea.
JESUS. Why then are we even talking about him, except they've lost their last two games? If he's that good, he's not going anywhere, if he's cratering, why would we want him? It's pretty simple, really.
You make a compelling argument and had me going for a bit, but we have higher expectations. 10 wins, laughable. Never won a BIG championship. I've followed this team for 18 years and every year our coach makes it clear that we are playing for champions. Franklin has been a head coach for 15 years, no championships. We could never believe him if he said, "I am here (at NU) to win championships.
Not one of those teams were ranked in the CFB polls. He has a tough time beating ranked teams, both at Vandy and at PSU.
Franklin had a tough time beating NU with fricking PSU talent. His famous poor clock management alone cost PSU a game against NU. You sure you want him for a head coach at NU?
And not only that, when he left he gutted Vandy, taking recruits and coaches, leaving them to start all over again.
We don’t want him and he doesn’t want us. This has to be one of the dumbest discussions of the season.
I’m not a Franklin fan, but am I the only one who remembers that Penn State won the Big Ten Championship in 2016? They finished 8-1 and had defeated Ohio State to represent the East division. They then beat Wisconsin in the Big Ten championship game but the BCS chose Ohio State for the playoffs (Clemson beat up Ohio State 38-0 and then defeated Alabama to win the National Championship). Trace McSorley was their QB and Saquon Barkley running back. They were actually exciting to watch on offense. It was a big controversy that the BCS chose Ohio State, but the Buckeyes were pre-season #1 and were 11-1 with their only loss to Penn State, while Penn State finished 11-2 with losses to Pitt and was routed by Michigan (49-10) that year.
Penn State has a reputation of losing the big games, but that year was the exception as Ohio State was ranked #2 entering that game. I remember being stunned watching Ohio State blow a 2 TD lead as Penn State scored the last 17 points of the game.
Franklin has won 11 or more games 5 times at Penn State in 9 Big Ten seasons. Paterno won 11 or more games 6 times in 19 Big Ten seasons. Replacing Frankin would remind me of when Nebraska replaced Bo Pelini because he was not Tommy Osborne and could not win more than 10 games. Look how that turned out for Nebraska. The last National Championship Penn State won was in 1986 and they were not doing great when Franklin became head coach.
Still, I don’t want him as our coach. I just don’t like his arrogance. But I would Be happy with his record.
You people would drool over the success he's had at both Vandy and PSU.
Nope. We beat him at Vandy and then he cancelled the Evanston game. At Penn State he's won lots of games because it's Penn State. He never wins big games or championships, so he certainly would do nothing at NU. He's an arrogant jerk who lost to a winless team NU had beaten the week before. Hopefully, he stays at PSU, where he can continue to lose the big games. PSU has a huge fan base and lots of rich alums, so maybe they'll pay the 50 million to buy him out, but we'll see. It's obvious at this point that the fans want him gone, and NU certainly doesn't want him. Fun times!
Yes, he's not good enough for NU, that's why all the articles about him going elsewhere are about him going to places like Ole Miss.
You wouldn't care how arrogant our coach is next year if we won 9 games.
I am willing to sell a good portion of my soul in a deal with the Devil for 10 wins a year. However, having James associated with NU is a bridge too far!
You just don't get it. I simply do not want an arrogant jerk like Franklin to be NU's coach. Apparently Penn State fans don't want him either according to media reports. Ole Miss would be a great place for Franklin to land because I couldn't care less about Ole Miss. The bottom line, though, is that I hope Franklin stays at PSU where he can continue to lose the big games.
If you just don’t want it because of your own personal emotions, that’s fine, it’s your life. I just appreciate that you just actually said that instead of trying to pretend he hasn’t raised the water level at all his major HC opportunities and replicating his performance at Vandy and PSU would represent a lot of winning for the Cats. If you don’t care, you don’t care, that’s fine.
(again, he isn’t getting fired, so whatever)
Do you even bother to read my posts and those of several others? The only reason that Franklin won't be fired at Penn State relates to his buyout of $50 million. Penn State has had many great teams prior to Franklin, including national championship teams, and they will be good in the future long after Franklin is gone. For now, however, I'm glad that PSU is stuck with this buffoon. Maybe someday he will learn how to beat a highly ranked team and avoid losing to a winless team which was beaten the week before by the 'Cats. We certainly don't want him at NU where he would have to recruit academically qualified players.
As much as certain people want to bash the idea, he does have all those attributes that are necessary to have at least a reasonable record at NU. He is a good recruiter, has a lot of high level contacts and that is a big thing missing from Braun's resume
Losing for them is only winning 10 or 11 games. Oh the horror. Somehow I think we could learn to live with it
It was not just the QB that ran against them. The PSU run D was pretty porous. That QB for UCLA was supposedly a big money transfer
Thought he had 4 and 21 record against top ten teams. (he is 1-18 against them in the BIG)
Here is info on how he has done against top 10 and top 25
What is James Franklin's record vs top-10 ranked teams at Penn State?
How has Penn State coach James Franklin fared against top-25, top-10 teams with the Nittany Lions? Here's what to know.
www.usatoday.com
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Note, I said "if". Currently he is losing. If he keeps losing, why would NU want him? If he doesn't, he's not leaving, which makes this entire discussion meaningless.
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We need someone innovative on the offensive side of the ball to break the 3 star recruit ceiling to be competitive. Franklin's star has fallen!!! 6 win seasons are not going to help build the program. Portal QB's aren't the answer either. Stop gap QB's don't help build programs.
Not as optimistic -- our chances have gone way down
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I'll admit, I was looking to cause a little trouble when I brought that up, but I never thought it would be this good!
Wow! You are powerfully ignorant about NU and Franklin. If he were at NU, he'd be gone in 4 years with a horrible record.