Let the meltdown begin

[the dog is on the loose]

If ole miss winds up with recruiting class ranking right there where we are.

 

[57stratdawg]

If this class contains Heath, Whop, Guidry, Dollar Bill and Murphy - we’ve done well.

We need to replace a couple OL and DL targets in January though.

 

[missouridawg]

If this class contains Heath, Whop, Guidry, Dollar Bill and Murphy - we’ve done well.

We need to replace a couple OL and DL targets in January though.

All five have signed. I’m pumoed about Cumbest too. Now get some of these big time big uglies.

 

[aTotal360]

Could be the best group of hands we've signed in a long time.

 

[MSUDC11]

Could be the best group of hands we've signed in a long time.

You mean ever.

 

[messageboardsuperhero]

If this class contains Heath, Whop, Guidry, Dollar Bill and Murphy - we’ve done well.

We need to replace a couple OL and DL targets in January though.

Yep, today was good but not great. We tremendously improved at WR and got a lot of really quality players. Now the staff has six weeks to get on some OL and DL prospects. I bet we offer the OT from Christian Brothers in Memphis very soon. Keeping Lovett would be huge.

Still work to do though...

 

[cedog]

I haven't been this excited for our receiving corps since we signed Ray Ray Bivens and Antonio Hargrove from Gautier. I am excited but I'll try to placate that excitement until we see it on the field. As long as Moorhead doesn't say that it'd be hard to tackle Heath in a phone booth, I'll be happy.

 

[coach66]

I think it was better than good, getting Carvin would have been great but

Williams is not a big deal. I will be surprised if we keep Lovett and that's a loss.

 

[Awwhellnaw]

Please advise. Who goes by "Dolla Bill"?

 

[Leeshouldveflanked]

I'm pretty darn excited so far....

 

[cedog]

K Johnson

I'm not going to try to spell his first name.

 

[512taylor]

If ole miss winds up with recruiting class ranking right there where we are.

They’re getting guys who would rather be away from football next December.

 

[thf24]

They're going to jump a good ways but not to the top 25 where we'll end up. They'll probably get some impact players using their usual tactics, but two straight overall mediocre classes is really going to hurt their depth for the next 2-3 years.

 

[rem101]

Add Crumedy to the list of people to be excited about.

 

[DawgsOnTheWing]

Is that Kwatrivous Johnson, OL from Greenwood? He's in, according to hailstate.com.

 

[cedog]

Yeah

 

[Msubulldogfan1]

What are they ranked?

 

[MSUDC11]

Right now we are 21 and they are 32.

 

[bulldogbaja]

All of this happened weeks ago when we failed to keep Grantham.
It was incredibly simple: Keep our DC, maintain some continuity, we (1) win our upcoming bowl game, (2) keep the class intact, and (3) are set up next year for a historic season. Lose Grantham, we will (1) lose the bowl game, (2) lose our top-15 class, and (3) 2018 will be a building year.
Sunshine pumpers won't like it, but that's just the reality of what happened.

 

[dawgstudent]

You really think 2018 is a building year? Explain that logic.

 

[5049]

All of this happened weeks ago when we failed to keep Grantham.
It was incredibly simple: Keep our DC, maintain some continuity, we (1) win our upcoming bowl game, (2) keep the class intact, and (3) are set up next year for a historic season. Lose Grantham, we will (1) lose the bowl game, (2) lose our top-15 class, and (3) 2018 will be a building year.
Sunshine pumpers won't like it, but that's just the reality of what happened.

This is a total load of bunk. Grantham wouldn't have helped win the the bowl game (Fitzgerald ring a bell?), keep the class or matter for next year (remember we hired another good defensive coordinator?).

Go ahead and jump. Furthermore, how does the 2018 class affect the 2018 season in any way besides Guidry and possibly Heath? Doesn't matter anyway because we signed them both. No one else will play outside special teams.

 

[Drebin]

All of this happened weeks ago when we failed to keep Grantham.
It was incredibly simple: Keep our DC, maintain some continuity, we (1) win our upcoming bowl game, (2) keep the class intact, and (3) are set up next year for a historic season. Lose Grantham, we will (1) lose the bowl game, (2) lose our top-15 class, and (3) 2018 will be a building year.
Sunshine pumpers won't like it, but that's just the reality of what happened.

Carvin would have gone to UT even if we kept Grantham. The Lovett stuff would be happening too.

Our bowl game isn't going to mean a damn thing one way or another.

2018 a rebuilding year? Put down the crack pipe.

 

[Msubulldogfan1]

Seems like we could make room for a 4* safety, maybe even move somebody to a different position. Doesn’t make much sense.

 

[AlCoDog]

Damn i forgot to invite you to my Christmas party. You sound fun.

 

[Drebin]

Seems like we could make room for a 4* safety, maybe even move somebody to a different position. Doesn’t make much sense.

It makes about as much sense as message board posters putting stock in a recruits star rating. If the coaching staff doesn't want him, there's a reason, and it's probably a much more informed reason than yours.

 

[tcdog70]

All of this happened weeks ago when we failed to keep Grantham.
It was incredibly simple: Keep our DC, maintain some continuity, we (1) win our upcoming bowl game, (2) keep the class intact, and (3) are set up next year for a historic season. Lose Grantham, we will (1) lose the bowl game, (2) lose our top-15 class, and (3) 2018 will be a building year.
Sunshine pumpers won't like it, but that's just the reality of what happened.

i'm calling ********--Next years team is set and ready to go now we have signed some WR's. We will win 9-10 games. why are some Dogs just so 17 ing negative? we will score 40 points a game. 17 Grantham, we will be good on defense. our DL might be top 3 in the SEC with some stud LBs. our safeties and corners will also be better. We have a great FG man and an all-american punter ready to go. so go ahead and pump some sunshine,

 

[KurtRambis4]

I'm obviously

in the minority here, but I don't give a 17 what om recruiting class is.

All I care about is signing the 3 ++ talented WRs and Marcus Murphy, which it looks like we did.

WR is the one position that we were really hurting at, all last season.

 

[bulldogbaja]

First-year head coaches have a ceiling. See: Saban, Nick
Moorehead's system will require time to install. As was discussed earlier (and I think you proposed this idea) that's why Don's timing sucked so bad.

 

[Msubulldogfan1]

It makes about as much sense as message board posters putting stock in a recruits star rating. If the coaching staff doesn't want him, there's a reason, and it's probably a much more informed reason than yours.

Chill out. Relax a little bit, quit being so defensive.

 

[KurtRambis4]

It was incredibly simple: Keep our DC

Don't you think we tried to? You seem to suggest we just told him to hit the road.

 

[KurtRambis4]

IIf the coaching staff doesn't want him, there's a reason, and it's probably a much more informed reason than yours.

This statement was made a number of times under Dan, and laughed at by the recruiting savants, every time.

 

[Drebin]

Chill out. Relax a little bit, quit being so defensive.

Not defensive at all, and certainly don't need to chill out. I'm not the one worried about who the staff is offering.

 

[bulldogbaja]

Nah I'm a perpetual optimist. I always pick us to win more games than we actually do.
But, it seems pretty clear that we didn't try that hard to retain Grantham, and that we were looking 3-4 years down the road instead of taking the quick win. Long-term it might work out for the best, but short-term we would have had more success keeping him.
We would have at least had a chance in the bowl game by keeping our DC. MSU would have looked stronger if some of the staff had said FU Florida, I'm staying here, and I think that would have had a halo effect on the whole recruiting class.
Next year's team is incredibly talented but it's a completely new scheme and new defensive front. We have a staff pulled together from all over the country, not guys who all came from the same place. Coaches simply don't come into the SEC and win big their first year. If we had kept continuity on the defensive side of the ball, we would have been better next year. That's all I'm saying. Personally I would have taken that over building for 2019-2020.

 

[Moe Cabelle]

This is the part I love about some people that freak out.

I think we would have loved to have kept him, probably tried. Either way, he's gone.

 

[tcdog70]

Nah I'm a perpetual optimist. I always pick us to win more games than we actually do.
But, it seems pretty clear that we didn't try that hard to retain Grantham, and that we were looking 3-4 years down the road instead of taking the quick win. Long-term it might work out for the best, but short-term we would have had more success keeping him.
We would have at least had a chance in the bowl game by keeping our DC. MSU would have looked stronger if some of the staff had said FU Florida, I'm staying here, and I think that would have had a halo effect on the whole recruiting class.
Next year's team is incredibly talented but it's a completely new scheme and new defensive front. We have a staff pulled together from all over the country, not guys who all came from the same place. Coaches simply don't come into the SEC and win big their first year. If we had kept continuity on the defensive side of the ball, we would have been better next year. That's all I'm saying. Personally I would have taken that over building for 2019-2020.

Dude New Coaches usually come in after a dumpster fire i.e see Ole Ms and TN. We are predicted to be a top 20 team next year. So save your gnashing of teeth. Mo will win big his first year. Ray Charles can see this.

 

[Kojak.sixpack]

Please tell me you are @Just1BroArguing on Twitter.

All of this happened weeks ago when we failed to keep Grantham.
It was incredibly simple: Keep our DC, maintain some continuity, we (1) win our upcoming bowl game, (2) keep the class intact, and (3) are set up next year for a historic season. Lose Grantham, we will (1) lose the bowl game, (2) lose our top-15 class, and (3) 2018 will be a building year.
Sunshine pumpers won't like it, but that's just the reality of what happened.

If not, I want you to meet somebody...

 

[Wizard of bulldogery]

We should consider every year a rebuilding year... and then change the name rebuilding to reloading. Then we will have arrived.

 

[WrapItDog]

If we had kept continuity on the defensive side of the ball, we would have been better next year. That's all I'm saying.

We haven't kept continuity on the defensive side of the ball in the Mullen Era. Still had some 9-10 win seasons.

 

[ShrubDog]

Haters gona hate and melters gona melt.

Tis the season to hate on melters and melters hating haters.

 

[yjnkdawg]

All of this happened weeks ago when we failed to keep Grantham.
It was incredibly simple: Keep our DC, maintain some continuity, we (1) win our upcoming bowl game, (2) keep the class intact, and (3) are set up next year for a historic season. Lose Grantham, we will (1) lose the bowl game, (2) lose our top-15 class, and (3) 2018 will be a building year.
Sunshine pumpers won't like it, but that's just the reality of what happened.

Grantham may have wanted to have been our head coach, but as for as DC's, he wanted to be FL's DC. So apparently it's not as simple as you perceived it. Actualy I don't see any reality in anythng you posted.