Lessons to be learned.

[cavalot]

I've coached for a long long time. 30 years at the HS level to be exact. One thing that I know to be true is that you are never quite as good or as bad as you think. This weekend sucked and the last several years have too. Coaching makes a difference, players make a difference. I believe that we have good enough in both of these areas to right the ship to the point of 6 or 7 wins. It's just a commitment to change and adaptation. We shall find out if thats what these guys have.


Several years ago my team...(my defense to be exact) got boat raced in the 3rd game of the year. Platteview was loaded with athletes and they ran circles around us....Set all kinds of records. Score was 70 something to doesn't matter. When we got done with that game. We talked about what we needed to do to be better against one of the best teams in the state.

We thought we were pretty good but that game was an eye opener. We adapted, made changes. Got better! Played them in the Semi-finals on their home turf. That first game they could have scored a thousand points against us. We lost the semi-final game 24-14. And had the ball at the end with a chance to win until a fumble gave them the ball and their final score in the waning minutes.

My point. All is not lost. This team can still achieve if...and that's a big if coaches are willing to adapt and change. Until then all we can do is sit back and hope they do.

 

[leodisflowers]

I've coached for a long long time. 30 years at the HS level to be exact. One thing that I know to be true is that you are never quite as good or as bad as you think. This weekend sucked and the last several years have too. Coaching makes a difference, players make a difference. I believe that we have good enough in both of these areas to right the ship to the point of 6 or 7 wins. It's just a commitment to change and adaptation. We shall find out if thats what these guys have.


Several years ago my team...(my defense to be exact) got boat raced in the 3rd game of the year. Platteview was loaded with athletes and they ran circles around us....Set all kinds of records. Score was 70 something to doesn't matter. When we got done with that game. We talked about what we needed to do to be better against one of the best teams in the state.

We thought we were pretty good but that game was an eye opener. We adapted, made changes. Got better! Played them in the Semi-finals on their home turf. That first game they could have scored a thousand points against us. We lost the semi-final game 24-14. And had the ball at the end with a chance to win until a fumble gave them the ball and their final score in the waning minutes.

My point. All is not lost. This team can still achieve if...and that's a big if coaches are willing to adapt and change. Until then all we can do is sit back and hope they do.

I hope that is the case, I just don't see it with these seniors and juniors. I think they are good kids and I feel bad for them, but they are just losers and can't seem to shake it. I had high hopes, but man I hate their body language and there still doesn't seem to be a leader on either side of the ball. This is the other team this thing lacks. Who is the leader? Gifford isn't the leader. He makes more mental mistakes than anyone. Someone needs to step up and lead with their game instead of talking.

I feel like Raiola needs to do the same thing. Coaches also need to sit people that they see on tape are going through the motions. I don't care if Banks is a good kid, he whiffs in the blocking game the entire time and runs lazy routes. Give someone else a chance to send the message. Play ************* that seem like they want to be out there.

 

[goldencohusker]

Living in Denver, another recent example of what you are speaking about is the Broncos. Last year, they started 0-3 and in the 3rd loss they gave up 70 to the Dolphins - the 3rd most points allowed in NFL history. People were calling for Vance Joseph to be fired the night of that game. They regrouped and won 7 of their next 10, and this year have one of the top ranked defenses in the NFL under Joseph. We're just not used to seeing the Huskers bounce in the right direction following adversity - hope this team changes that narrative.

 

[VictoryRed]

I've coached for a long long time. 30 years at the HS level to be exact. One thing that I know to be true is that you are never quite as good or as bad as you think. This weekend sucked and the last several years have too. Coaching makes a difference, players make a difference. I believe that we have good enough in both of these areas to right the ship to the point of 6 or 7 wins. It's just a commitment to change and adaptation. We shall find out if thats what these guys have.


Several years ago my team...(my defense to be exact) got boat raced in the 3rd game of the year. Platteview was loaded with athletes and they ran circles around us....Set all kinds of records. Score was 70 something to doesn't matter. When we got done with that game. We talked about what we needed to do to be better against one of the best teams in the state.

We thought we were pretty good but that game was an eye opener. We adapted, made changes. Got better! Played them in the Semi-finals on their home turf. That first game they could have scored a thousand points against us. We lost the semi-final game 24-14. And had the ball at the end with a chance to win until a fumble gave them the ball and their final score in the waning minutes.

My point. All is not lost. This team can still achieve if...and that's a big if coaches are willing to adapt and change. Until then all we can do is sit back and hope they do.

The thing that suck's is we get embarrassed every year no matter whom is coaching. I can take losing to a superior team or program, I don't think it should happen against Indiana. We never seem to gain momentum or get better. What makes it harder is seeing KSU , ISU, Iowa, Minn, and the like have better programs with all that we have to prepare these dudes. I have all but given up ever being great again. We have no choice but to stand by and watch another year go by being laughed at and irrelevant. I choose not to give them my money , and too much of my time.

 

[cavalot]

I hope that is the case, I just don't see it with these seniors and juniors. I think they are good kids and I feel bad for them, but they are just losers and can't seem to shake it. I had high hopes, but man I hate their body language and there still doesn't seem to be a leader on either side of the ball. This is the other team this thing lacks. Who is the leader? Gifford isn't the leader. He makes more mental mistakes than anyone. Someone needs to step up and lead with their game instead of talking.

I feel like Raiola needs to do the same thing. Coaches also need to sit people that they see on tape are going through the motions. I don't care if Banks is a good kid, he whiffs in the blocking game the entire time and runs lazy routes. Give someone else a chance to send the message. Play mother****ers that seem like they want to be out there.

I agree. I said this when I was watching the Indiana game. Why isn't anyone pissed. Where's the emotion. At some point they've got to stop playing as victims and more like perpetrators. We are missing that element for sure.

 

[king_kong_]

I agree. I said this when I was watching the Indiana game. Why isn't anyone pissed. Where's the emotion. At some point they've got to stop playing as victims and more like perpetrators. We are missing that element for sure.

our QB is pretty quick to get his dauber down

 

[leodisflowers]

I agree. I said this when I was watching the Indiana game. Why isn't anyone pissed. Where's the emotion. At some point they've got to stop playing as victims and more like perpetrators. We are missing that element for sure.

Yep, I'm with you. There seems to be no raw emotion except for people like Barney. Hopefully there are some young guys that can be leaders and start to build the program. This team is never going to win without a leader (s) on each side of the ball.

 

[cavalot]

The thing that suck's is we get embarrassed every year no matter whom is coaching. I can take losing to a superior team or program, I don't think it should happen against Indiana. We never seem to gain momentum or get better. What makes it harder is seeing KSU , ISU, Iowa, Minn, and the like have better programs with all that we have to prepare these dudes. I have all but given up ever being great again. We have no choice but to stand by and watch another year go by being laughed at and irrelevant. I choose not to give them my money , and too much of my time.

I agree. Im trying to paint a positive picture. But what you say hits on many levels. Maybe that's what this program needs. Less interest. Less attention. It is truly mind boggling when you look at the resources that are thrown in there direction.

I can tell you. These coaches are hurt by this performance. No one wants to be associated with that **** show. They will get it going in a better direction. I hope!

 

[leodisflowers]

our QB is pretty quick to get his dauber down

Yep. I know it was a different time, but I want a QB with juice like Tommie was back in the day. Chew ************* out.

 

[cavalot]

our QB is pretty quick to get his dauber down

True. I think he thought this was going to be easy. Being great at 7 on 7 doesn't make you an instant super star at the next level. He has talent he will get better.

 

[cavalot]

Living in Denver, another recent example of what you are speaking about is the Broncos. Last year, they started 0-3 and in the 3rd loss they gave up 70 to the Dolphins - the 3rd most points allowed in NFL history. People were calling for Vance Joseph to be fired the night of that game. They regrouped and won 7 of their next 10, and this year have one of the top ranked defenses in the NFL under Joseph. We're just not used to seeing the Huskers bounce in the right direction following adversity - hope this team changes that narrative.

That's true. Just have to believe that they can get there. Every year we thrash the team after losses and people are calling for new coaches. What good has it done?

We just need to stay the course and see what it produces.

 

[beaglehusker]

That's true. Just have to believe that they can get there. Every year we thrash the team after losses and people are calling for new coaches. What good has it done?

We just need to stay the course and see what it produces.

Do you really have faith in this OC

 

[king_kong_]

Yep. I know it was a different time, but I want a QB with juice like Tommie was back in the day. Chew mother****ers out.

what if I told you that we ha-

nevermind

 

[cavalot]

Do you really have faith in this OC

Not really. But he's what we have right now. And I have faith that Rhule will step in and try to guide him in the direction that Rhule wants.

 

[GGdowski]

You can win a lot of games (7-10 wins) with good off and def lines - even if you have **** skill players

See Iowa
get the lines figured out and build from there

I’m not sure Donovan is the right guy

 

[grayhairedfreak]

It's been said a million times, but we need coaches and players that hate losing more than they love winning. I'm not sure we've had a team like that since 1997.

 

[beaglehusker]

what if I told you that we ha-

nevermind

Oh boy, here we go

 

[king_kong_]

Oh boy, here we go

nah. you will never see me calling for DR to be benched in favor of Haarberg.

I would like to see a little more of what HH brings with his heart combined with DR's undeniable physical ability, though.

intangibles are what separate a great quarterback from a great talent.

 

[Baxter48_rivals204143]

Yep. I know it was a different time, but I want a QB with juice like Tommie was back in the day. Chew mother****ers out.

The difference back then those players were used to winning they just needed a few more dudes to get them over the top, compared with today’s players they haven’t won anything and my opinion is even if Dylan chews *** you have a good percentage the just roll their eyes and there in lies the problem

 

[HUSKERFAN66]

Do you really have faith in this OC

Mmmmmm no

 

[BugsAreQualityProtein]

Not really. But he's what we have right now. And I have faith that Rhule will step in and try to guide him in the direction that Rhule wants.

What I find so fascinating is that Satterfield was the OC for Rhule at Temple and at Temple they ran duo out of multi TE formations all the time. They were legitimately a hard nosed, run between the tackles kind of team. Wonder what changed.

 

[cubsker_rivals142943]

I've seen Dylan try to be a leader this year, even a bit on Saturday. I hope to hell he sticks around and really takes command of the team come next Spring.

It's certainly easier to lead when you're playing well. Makes it tough on a day like Saturday where everyone sucked.

 

[VictoryRed]

I agree. Im trying to paint a positive picture. But what you say hits on many levels. Maybe that's what this program needs. Less interest. Less attention. It is truly mind boggling when you look at the resources that are thrown in there direction.

I can tell you. These coaches are hurt by this performance. No one wants to be associated with that **** show. They will get it going in a better direction. I hope!

Being hurt does nothing for me. I don't listen to their reasons for losing. They failed. This is why I come on here saying slow down , wait for results. I've had a lifetime of words. Improvement and results is all I want to see. They need to be held responsible in terms of pay as far as I'm concerned.

 

[VictoryRed]

What I find so fascinating is that Satterfield was the OC for Rhule at Temple and at Temple they ran duo out of multi TE formations all the time. They were legitimately a hard nosed, run between the tackles kind of team. Wonder what changed.

Temple was a rough team, I was shocked watching it.

 

[VictoryRed]

It's been said a million times, but we need coaches and players that hate losing more than they love winning. I'm not sure we've had a team like that since 1997.

They don't as a whole.

 

[VictoryRed]

You can win a lot of games (7-10 wins) with good off and def lines - even if you have **** skill players

See Iowa
get the lines figured out and build from there

I’m not sure Donovan is the right guy

Iowa has mastered it. Wisky is right thers as well. Minny , KSU, always have tough dudes. It's only rocket science to us.

 

[t7w0c1_rivals]

I agree. I said this when I was watching the Indiana game. Why isn't anyone pissed. Where's the emotion. At some point they've got to stop playing as victims and more like perpetrators. We are missing that element for sure.

I feel like part of this happens when kids don't believe in how or what they are being coached. Our defense has to see the bad blocking on the edges in practice, bad special teams etc. I've never seen it turn out well when a team is hoping one player will be their savior.

 

[Zeke2005]

You can win a lot of games (7-10 wins) with good off and def lines - even if you have **** skill players

See Iowa
get the lines figured out and build from there

I’m not sure Donovan is the right guy

Iowa wasted years with a super solid defense but a garbage offense. Now their defense has cracks in the armor this year, they won a lot of games but alas the trophy case is empty yet.

 

[dinglefritz]

I agree. Im trying to paint a positive picture. But what you say hits on many levels. Maybe that's what this program needs. Less interest. Less attention. It is truly mind boggling when you look at the resources that are thrown in there direction.

I can tell you. These coaches are hurt by this performance. No one wants to be associated with that **** show. They will get it going in a better direction. I hope!

Satterfield needs to give up play calling duties. IF he had a drop of self awareness he would. Failing that Rhule needs to tell him he has a rookie QB who isn’t a young Aaron Rodgers and he needs to run the ball to help him.

 

[dinglefritz]

nah. you will never see me calling for DR to be benched in favor of Haarberg.

I would like to see a little more of what HH brings with his heart combined with DR's undeniable physical ability, though.

intangibles are what separate a great quarterback from a great talent.

We ran option with Jerry Tagge. Jerry couldn’t beat most of our linemen in a foot race. Our QB coach needs to make Dylan watch video of Big Ben scrambling for first downs. Dylan is more Big Ben than he is Pat Mahommes.

 

[notscottfrost]

I've coached for a long long time. 30 years at the HS level to be exact. One thing that I know to be true is that you are never quite as good or as bad as you think. This weekend sucked and the last several years have too. Coaching makes a difference, players make a difference. I believe that we have good enough in both of these areas to right the ship to the point of 6 or 7 wins. It's just a commitment to change and adaptation. We shall find out if thats what these guys have.


Several years ago my team...(my defense to be exact) got boat raced in the 3rd game of the year. Platteview was loaded with athletes and they ran circles around us....Set all kinds of records. Score was 70 something to doesn't matter. When we got done with that game. We talked about what we needed to do to be better against one of the best teams in the state.

We thought we were pretty good but that game was an eye opener. We adapted, made changes. Got better! Played them in the Semi-finals on their home turf. That first game they could have scored a thousand points against us. We lost the semi-final game 24-14. And had the ball at the end with a chance to win until a fumble gave them the ball and their final score in the waning minutes.

My point. All is not lost. This team can still achieve if...and that's a big if coaches are willing to adapt and change. Until then all we can do is sit back and hope they do.

This team hasn't played well since the 1st half against Colorado. They are a collection of decent D1 players but a terrible overall team. And twice this year, when backed against the wall against an equal opponent they quit. They are a VERY poorly coached team, coached by a collection of men who are afraid at best and outright scammers at worse, lead by a freshman qb who has too much power and too little impact on the outcome of the game. The Indiana game was the step up game...we played very poorly against Rutgers and could/should have lost, we played very poorly against Purdue, a team we couldn't really lose to in any scenario, and were embarrassed by Illinois in the best possible situation to win. Everything should have been dissected after Rutgers, torn apart in the bye-week and we should have come out on fire and angry against Indiana...the fact they are this clueless means they are making excuses this week and going forward.

 

[HominidHusker]

Team can’t quit. Even if they lose bad this week, they can’t pack it in. Finish the season full throttle.

Coaches need to help extract the right mentality from players by doing their part to have them “ready” to play and give them a chance.

 

[cavalot]

What I find so fascinating is that Satterfield was the OC for Rhule at Temple and at Temple they ran duo out of multi TE formations all the time. They were legitimately a hard nosed, run between the tackles kind of team. Wonder what changed.

Recruits. They want the flashy offense that's going to feed them the ball. RB/WR/TE most want to be in a dynamic offense that showcases their talents.

 

[cavalot]

This team hasn't played well since the 1st half against Colorado. They are a collection of decent D1 players but a terrible overall team. And twice this year, when backed against the wall against an equal opponent they quit. They are a VERY poorly coached team, coached by a collection of men who are afraid at best and outright scammers at worse, lead by a freshman qb who has too much power and too little impact on the outcome of the game. The Indiana game was the step up game...we played very poorly against Rutgers and could/should have lost, we played very poorly against Purdue, a team we couldn't really lose to in any scenario, and were embarrassed by Illinois in the best possible situation to win. Everything should have been dissected after Rutgers, torn apart in the bye-week and we should have come out on fire and angry against Indiana...the fact they are this clueless means they are making excuses this week and going forward.

Can't argue with much of this. I will say that I don't believe these guys are bad coaches. But they do have to figure out how to get the most out of this team and that might be more psychology then actually coaching.

 

[cavalot]

Being hurt does nothing for me. I don't listen to their reasons for losing. They failed. This is why I come on here saying slow down , wait for results. I've had a lifetime of words. Improvement and results is all I want to see. They need to be held responsible in terms of pay as far as I'm concerned.

I don't totally disagree. But they can be hurt and we can still say it does nothing for me. That doesn't change the truth. These guys make great money, but it's not the driving force behind why they coach. They would be coaching for chump change if that's what the market delivered.

I guarantee they are doing some soul searching, probably no one more than Satterfield. He's not an idiot. He sees the same shitshow that we do. Change is hard however and it takes real guts to cut the losses and change course. We will see if he has what it takes to do that. If not then he should be gone.

We have 5 games left to prove that we are on the up and come and hopefully we see some results.

 

[JOHNNY N]

True. I think he thought this was going to be easy. Being great at 7 on 7 doesn't make you an instant super star at the next level. He has talent he will get better.

Maybe he thought he'd have receivers that got open and didn't get the ball ripped from them.

 

[Ki11ersker45]

That's true. Just have to believe that they can get there. Every year we thrash the team after losses and people are calling for new coaches. What good has it done?

We just need to stay the course and see what it produces.

We have stayed the course, and all too often the same results get applied.

 

[Redscarlet]

You can win a lot of games (7-10 wins) with good off and def lines - even if you have **** skill players

See Iowa
get the lines figured out and build from there

I’m not sure Donovan is the right guy

You a clarkeye fan are you?

 

[BTF69]

You a clarkeye fan are you?

Ha...no kidding!

For years we had a better version of Iowa when we had Bo, winning 9-10 each year where Iowa is happy to win 6-7.

 

[steinek11]

I’d be fairly satisfied with a seven and five season if these guys would just go out and brawl. I want to see a lot more chippiness. There is just a toughness that is no longer is present in football. What Huskers of old lacked in the past, they made up for it in fight. That’s what was amazing about Tom. There was not a nicer guy, yet somehow his teams weren’t nice. they were happy to go behind the alley with you