I promise you the last thing anyone needs is government involved.
Legislators at it again
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I promise you the last thing anyone needs is government involved.
At least it says it will bump charter schools up a classification
I’m telling you, they’re out of control and the most radical among them are calling the shots. They fancy themselves experts on everything….and I mean everything.
Have you heard the latest really funny thing?
Republicans stand for smaller government and more local control!!!
Like they Do Not want to control a women's body.
They do not want to Control what you can read!
They Do Not want to Destroy Public Schools!
They DO NOT Want to Control your religion!
They WILL DO ANYTHING to keep our children safe while they are in school!
Republicans stand for smaller government and more local control!!!
Like they Do Not want to control a women's body.
They do not want to Control what you can read!
They Do Not want to Destroy Public Schools!
They DO NOT Want to Control your religion!
They WILL DO ANYTHING to keep our children safe while they are in school!
I like a lot of this bill but the charters moving up will kill 1a football.
Reidsville will be 1a plus alot of other big schools.
Reidsville will be 1a plus alot of other big schools.
BK, not being a smart a$$, but tell us what you like about this bill. And I don’t mean moving up charters. I actually like that. Not sure how anyone could like more government involvement. Someone has to govern the schools and I surely can’t see anything good about NC legislators doing it. I would say that if it was run by democrats or republicans.
Not a fan of government getting involved but let's be honest nchsaa has turned itself into a version of government.
Why in the *&^%$ are they stepping in trying to control the number of classifications? Seems like there are a lot more important things they need to be spending their time in Raleigh on.
They also want to take away the ability of the NCHSAA to fine schools for violations, ejections, etc. I guarantee you that if a coach knows his supplement is going to take a $100 deduction, he is a lot less likely to act the fool and get canned than if not. And if an AD finds an ineligible player on his roster, no fine either way removes the incentive to self-report.
If you want screw anything up, just put a politician in charge of it.
Just wait until you see the chaos that will incur with that one representative switching parties and giving the Republicans a veto proof majority. Elections have consequences and people are about to find out just how extreme the NCGA will be.
Don't complain when you get what you voted for.
Don't complain when you get what you voted for.
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Did you know 3 Senators also filed a bill to ban municipalities from awarding "partipation" trophies to athletes. Who cares if a 6 year old gets a trophy that says thanks for playing and finishing the season? Maybe that encourages him to come back next season.
Participation trophies is just another boogeyman that has no data to back the claims. I mean those things likely end up in the basement at some point shortly after getting them.
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1a will be loaded with 2a schools that drop down to fill the spots of the charters.
2a will be much weaker
2a will be much weaker
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Have you any evidence that they will do a football only realignment?
I don't see that happening
Have you any evidence that they will do a football only realignment?
I don't see that happening
R or D...money and powerr. Piss on the common man because we are smarter than you. Look...we have titles.
I like the idea of a football only alignment myself the align all the other sports the same. That is how Tennessee does it but they also do regions instead of conferences
But even that part is not very well written. It just says they have to bump charters up a "conference," not the next biggest "division." It then talks about having to make "conferences" based on geography, "division," and ADM, but doesn't necessarily do away with split conferences. So then I think a charter school could reasonably argue that all this means is either 1) that a charter has to be put in a split conference or 2) has to play in a larger "conference" during the regular season but are still in the lower "division" for playoff purposes. Either these people think everyone else is dumb or they aren't as smart as they think they are.
Anyway, automatically bumping all charter schools up is not the answer. A charter school with 200 students drawing from a base of 50,000 is a better fit to be playing in 1A than a traditional public school with 800 students. But a charter school with 500 students drawn from a metropolitan area should be playing up.
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Can someone past the link to the bill and more importantly the sponsors of the bill, please?
Each of you should see if your representative or state senator is listed. If so, call and email them. The coaches, ADs, and principals need to get together and go to their rep to figure out what can be done. Get active.
I have reached out to someone that works in the political arena in Raleigh to see what they are hearing.
A lot of the sponsors of a bill or the politicans that vote for something know VERY little about the inner workings of what is being voted on. They vote as they are directed by party or as a favor to a fellow politician or a power player from their constituency (or possibly not).
Each of you should see if your representative or state senator is listed. If so, call and email them. The coaches, ADs, and principals need to get together and go to their rep to figure out what can be done. Get active.
I have reached out to someone that works in the political arena in Raleigh to see what they are hearing.
A lot of the sponsors of a bill or the politicans that vote for something know VERY little about the inner workings of what is being voted on. They vote as they are directed by party or as a favor to a fellow politician or a power player from their constituency (or possibly not).
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Plus, BK is right. Take all charters out of 1A and you get Reidsville, Hendersonville Princeton, and Wallace-Rose Hill in the 1A football playoffs and Kinston, Reidsville and Greene Central in the 1A basketball playoffs. Pick your poison if you're a school like Andrews or North Edgecombe.
Plus, BK is right. Take all charters out of 1A and you get Reidsville, Hendersonville Princeton, and Wallace-Rose Hill in the 1A football playoffs and Kinston, Reidsville and Greene Central in the 1A basketball playoffs. Pick your poison if you're a school like Andrews or North Edgecombe.
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How often can I say it, until a solid plan for the non district schools in 1A and 2A is formulated the problems will remain just shifted.
If they shift those schools up that is the perfect scenario for 2A and 3A to have the majority of the schools and subdivide for playoffs.
If they shift those schools up that is the perfect scenario for 2A and 3A to have the majority of the schools and subdivide for playoffs.
They want to control everything….period. There are a lot of folks who don’t like participation trophies. But we need a law to tell schools, cities and counties that they’re illegal? They love local control when they’re talking about states rights. But they don’t want cities or counties to make any decisions. Look at how many local bills have changed the makeup of local governmental entities without the consent of the local populace.
Figure out how to keep our residents reasonably safe and healthy. How to keep our air and water clean. How to attract quality educators and treat them with respect. How to create a vibrant economy without stripping away every protection the consumer has. How to equitably pay for paving roads for a rapidly growing population. There are hundreds of other issues far more important than youth and high school sports.
They love to tout “personal responsibility“. Guess that’s why Tom Tillis, when in the state legislature, tried to remove a health requirement for restaurant workers to wash their hands after using the restroom. Said it should be a personal choice.
Bill sponsors are Todd Johnson Cabarrus and Union, Tom McInnis Cumberland and Moore and Vickie Sawyer Iredell and Mecklenburg
After they move up the 40 charters they will move down 40 2a so the classes will be equal numbers.
Probably so. But what about public schools that aren’t charters or private, such as every school in Forsyth County and others like them?
You missed the point. You would not move the 2A schools down to 1A. 2A and 3A would have about double the number of schools that 1A has. I have l always wanted 1A and 4A to have about 16-18% of the football playing schools.
2A and 3A (without including the charters) are grouped rather closing in ADM from top to bottom as compared to 1A and 4A which are on the margins.
BIG issue. No one seems to comprehend this including a lot of people involved in 1A sports.
I understand what you would like to happen but I'm saying what would the General assembly do.
They would insist on equal numbers in each class. They've already said that before.
If they move the bottom 40 2a schools down to 1a, 1a football as we know it is dead
Maybe this is what it will take to wake the folks in rural counties up. Your football teams won't be able to compete and soon their schools won't have the resources to provide anything as it's shipped off to charter schools.
If this crazy bill passes, then you've got to at least subdivide for playoff purposes. And, I can see this happening with other sports besides football.
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read the bill, they are shifting the power to control high school athletics to the State Superintendent of Public Instruction. That position is elected every four years. Presently the same party that controls the General Assembly controls the Department of Public Instruction. All 170 seats in the General Assembly, all Council of State positions, the Gov and LT Gov, plus all US House Seats, AND the Presidential race are on the ballot in Nov 2024. Will NC voters continue to just vote for their “tribe”( Dem or Rep) or will issues like high school athletics have an impact and bring about some compromise????
I don't think this will be a needle pusher. The percentage of people paying attention to high school sport is probably minimal. Mass majority of voters will never hear or know of this bill.
Several ADs have already been outspoken against this but once again the NCGA will likely ignore the people with their boots on the ground and convince a large number of voters that the NCHSAA is a boogeyman
The party in charge isn't going to do anything to alienate a mass of voters. While they push this, they'll sell the transgender athlete bill in the light to keep people in the dark about the rest.
This has also been filed allowing home school, private school, and public school students that attend a school without athletics to participate at a public school.
That is the item that will catch the general public’s attention and move the ratings needle.
Personally, that is one of the few things I approve of on the bill.