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TigerGrowls

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Who in this thread posted comments advocating for that? I must have missed them. I feel like you are projecting your political frustrations. To me, two wrongs don’t make one right. People rioting isn’t acceptable, not is a teenager playing vigilante.


I find the defund the police thing stupid. I have guns and a CPL. If Rittenhouse was defending his house, family, or business, I would have no issues with what he did.

The police is equipped and trained to deal with riots, that’s their job. They don’t need kids with guns running around streets playing cowboy.
What he did is a right wing fantasy, he “took matter in his own hands” and gunned down some leftists. For some, the political views and actions of these rioters justifies their deaths and that kid is a hero…

This country is truly in bad shape with some thinking they can’t be heard unless they riot and some too happy to use that as an excuse to bypass the judicial system and become Judge Dredd, judge, jury, and executioner. Not sure what it’s going to take to get some reason back into both sides.
I recall his lawyer stating that he was hired by a business owner as security due to the riots and that's how he ended up being there. That's a little different.
 

ctcseb

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I recall his lawyer stating that he was hired by a business owner as security due to the riots and that's how he ended up being there. That's a little different.
Interesting. A business owner asked a teenager from across the state line to come over to work as security in the middle of riots? That teenager had to ask a friend to buy an AR on his behalf, obviously didn’t have the experience or weapons. Seems super fishy in terms of explanation…

Not talking to you specifically, but ... maybe he just an immature and influenceable teenager who got carried away with the far right wing ideology. But I'm sure some people will find a way to explain away why he and his friends are doing the white power sign, right? (see pictures below) Who in this thread does the white power sign with their friend?

As a reminder: white supremacy = the belief that white people constitute a superior race and should therefore dominate society, typically to the exclusion or detriment of other racial and ethnic groups, in particular black or Jewish people

Looking forward to some of you guys explaining to me how white supremacy is now acceptable again these days or that being a Proud boy is simply misunderstood, these guys have a big heart (as long as you are white).

This is what the guys jumping to his defense are associating themselves with. Ooof.





 

TigerGrowls

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Interesting. A business owner asked a teenager from across the state line to come over to work as security in the middle of riots? That teenager had to ask a friend to buy an AR on his behalf, obviously didn’t have the experience or weapons. Seems super fishy in terms of explanation…

Not talking to you specifically, but ... maybe he just an immature and influenceable teenager who got carried away with the far right wing ideology. But I'm sure some people will find a way to explain away why he and his friends are doing the white power sign, right? (see pictures below) Who in this thread does the white power sign with their friend?

As a reminder: white supremacy = the belief that white people constitute a superior race and should therefore dominate society, typically to the exclusion or detriment of other racial and ethnic groups, in particular black or Jewish people

Looking forward to some of you guys explaining to me how white supremacy is now acceptable again these days or that being a Proud boy is simply misunderstood, these guys have a big heart (as long as you are white).

This is what the guys jumping to his defense are associating themselves with. Ooof.





Lame response. Please stay on the subject and off the speculation.
 

ctcseb

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Lame response. Please stay on the subject and off the speculation.
You consider actual pictures of him flashing the white power sign with his buddies “speculation” regarding his worldview?

We obviously don’t know his true intentions regarding his trip to the riots. But a BLM protest, started after the police shooting of a black man, turns violent and a white power supporting teenager decides to illegally procure an AR15 to restore order against the leftists and BLM protesters but you see no connection at all. In your world he’s just a good kid earning college fund money as private paramilitary security (using an illegally obtained weapon) during racial protests, you know, like all kids his age do, right? But I am the one speculating, lol.

You should Google Occam’s razor to see which hypothesis seems more legit.
 
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TigerGrowls

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You consider actual pictures of him flashing the white power sign with his buddies “speculation” regarding his worldview?

We obviously don’t know his true intentions regarding his trip to the riots. But a BLM protest, started after the police shooting of a black man, turns violent and a white power supporting teenager decides to illegally procure an AR15 to restore order against the leftists and BLM protesters but you see no connection at all. In your world he’s just a good kid earning college fund money as private paramilitary security (using an illegally obtained weapon) during racial protests, you know, like all kids his age do, right? But I am the one speculating, lol.

You should Google Occam’s razor to see which hypothesis seems more legit.
I am not interested in his worldview to be honest. Most people tend to be very opinionated one way or the other. There is clear video evidence of what transpired and he clearly acted in self defense and I am thinking you would have pulled the trigger too if you were in his shoes. I will agree that he never should of been there in the first place.
 

scotchtiger

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Have missed this thread, but I think the facts support these statements:

  • KR is a peace of **** (white power signs, traveling to a riot with an AR)
  • The rioters he shot were peaces of **** (rioting, pulled guns on KR)
  • KR should not have been there and was probably looking for trouble
  • The rioters should not have been there and were definitely looking for trouble
  • All parties found the trouble they were looking for
  • KR isn't guilty of murder as our legal system defines it in this case

Hope that clears it up for everyone.
 

nytigerfan

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He is trolling … successfully I might add.

When the prosecution’s witness admitted to pulling a gun and pointing it at Rittenhouse’s face while Rittenhouse was on the ground on his back, the case should’ve been tossed.

the real story here, is that the Government prosecuting a innocent man

In multiple days of riots and racial unrest in Kenosha, only one person took another person's life. That person was Kyle Rittenhouse, who shot and killed two people and injured another. That stupid POS should not have been there in the first place.
 

ctcseb

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Have missed this thread, but I think the facts support these statements:

  • KR is a peace of **** (white power signs, traveling to a riot with an AR)
  • The rioters he shot were peaces of **** (rioting, pulled guns on KR)
  • KR should not have been there and was probably looking for trouble
  • The rioters should not have been there and were definitely looking for trouble
  • All parties found the trouble they were looking for
  • KR isn't guilty of murder as our legal system defines it in this case

Hope that clears it up for everyone.
Most level headed post in the thread :) You should be a judge :)
 

nytigerfan

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Have missed this thread, but I think the facts support these statements:

  • KR is a peace of **** (white power signs, traveling to a riot with an AR)
  • The rioters he shot were peaces of **** (rioting, pulled guns on KR)
  • KR should not have been there and was probably looking for trouble
  • The rioters should not have been there and were definitely looking for trouble
  • All parties found the trouble they were looking for
  • KR isn't guilty of murder as our legal system defines it in this case

Hope that clears it up for everyone.

What is a peace of ****?

I agree with you. Not guilty of murder. But if that piece of **** had chosen to not be there that night, nobody would have been killed at all. I hope he suffers for the remainder of his life.

The people on here treating him like a victim in all of this... yikes.
 
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scotchtiger

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What is a peace of ****?

I agree with you. Not guilty of murder. But if that piece of **** had chosen to not be there that night, nobody would have been killed at all. I hope he suffers for the remainder of his life.

The people on here treating him like a victim in all of this... yikes.

TMB joke.

Yea, I mean if those other fine citizens had chosen not to riot and pull guns, nobody would have been killed either.

But here we are wasting a bunch of time on a bunch of idiots.

The weird irony in the giant public focus on KR is that he will likely be found not guilty and will likely become a multi multi millionaire from a book deal or two, speaking engagements and a media tour. So the people most focused on his demise have driven his fame to the point of almost guaranteed financial windfall. Go figure.
 
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nytigerfan

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TMB joke.

Yea, I mean if those other fine citizens had chosen not to riot and pull guns, nobody would have been killed either.

But here we are wasting a bunch of time on a bunch of idiots.

The weird irony in the giant public focus on KR is that he will likely be found not guilty and will likely become a multi multi millionaire from a book deal or two, speaking engagements and a media tour. So the people most focused on his demise have driven his fame to the point of almost guaranteed financial windfall. Go figure.
Much like George Zimmerman before him, I have a feeling this is not the last time KR ends up in court for doing harm to another human being,.
 

P. Marlowe

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Much like George Zimmerman before him, I have a feeling this is not the last time KR ends up in court for doing harm to another human being,.
Perhaps not. Unlike you, I won’t be rooting for that outcome, though.
 

PAWrocka

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In multiple days of riots and racial unrest in Kenosha, only one person took another person's life. That person was Kyle Rittenhouse, who shot and killed two people and injured another. That stupid POS should not have been there in the first place.
3 people who attacked him ... dont forget that part.

1 - struck him, attempted to take his gun away from him

2 - struck him in the head/neck area with a skate board, knocking Rittenhouse to the ground and was winding up to strike Rittenhouse again in the head

3 - pointed a gun in Rittenhouse's face and was, by his own admission about to fire.

Maybe .... if the Kenosha mayor had allowed his police to quell a violent destructive RIOT, instead of attempting to score political points, none of what occurred wouldve happened.

edit: coming back for another piece ... and let us not forget that these violent RIOTS were all in ....support (support seems like a odd word choice, is a "riot" a form of "support") ... of Jacob Blake, a complete piece of ****. A known gang member, drug dealer, felon, who was actively violating a restraining order. Who was ordered to STOP 5+ times, who was ordered 3 times to NOT reach into his car, but did so any ways. And what was he reaching for? a weapon ...
 
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DW4_2016

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3 people who attacked him ... dont forget that part.

1 - struck him, attempted to take his gun away from him

2 - struck him in the head/neck area with a skate board, knocking Rittenhouse to the ground and was winding up to strike Rittenhouse again in the head

3 - pointed a gun in Rittenhouse's face and was, by his own admission about to fire.

Maybe .... if the Kenosha mayor had allowed his police to quell a violent destructive RIOT, instead of attempting to score political points, none of what occurred wouldve happened.

edit: coming back for another piece ... and let us not forget that these violent RIOTS were all in ....support (support seems like a odd word choice, is a "riot" a form of "support") ... of Jacob Blake, a complete piece of ****. A known gang member, drug dealer, felon, who was actively violating a restraining order. Who was ordered to STOP 5+ times, who was ordered 3 times to NOT reach into his car, but did so any ways. And what was he reaching for? a weapon ...
They were on a tour of the capitol. Just passing by and happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.
 

FranktheDank

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Who in this thread posted comments advocating for that? I must have missed them. I feel like you are projecting your political frustrations. To me, two wrongs don’t make one right. People rioting isn’t acceptable, not is a teenager playing vigilante.


I find the defund the police thing stupid. I have guns and a CPL. If Rittenhouse was defending his house, family, or business, I would have no issues with what he did.

The police is equipped and trained to deal with riots, that’s their job. They don’t need kids with guns running around streets playing cowboy.
What he did is a right wing fantasy, he “took matter in his own hands” and gunned down some leftists. For some, the political views and actions of these rioters justifies their deaths and that kid is a hero…

This country is truly in bad shape with some thinking they can’t be heard unless they riot and some too happy to use that as an excuse to bypass the judicial system and become Judge Dredd, judge, jury, and executioner. Not sure what it’s going to take to get some reason back into both sides.
Good points. Agree that there are far right weirdos out there that want to live out a fantasy of gunning down terrorists through this guy. But in the interest of being objective and unbiased let’s also include that there are far left weirdos out there that want this guy to burn simply because they view him as a political adversary
 
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nytigerfan

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3 people who attacked him ... dont forget that part.

1 - struck him, attempted to take his gun away from him

2 - struck him in the head/neck area with a skate board, knocking Rittenhouse to the ground and was winding up to strike Rittenhouse again in the head

3 - pointed a gun in Rittenhouse's face and was, by his own admission about to fire.

Maybe .... if the Kenosha mayor had allowed his police to quell a violent destructive RIOT, instead of attempting to score political points, none of what occurred wouldve happened.

edit: coming back for another piece ... and let us not forget that these violent RIOTS were all in ....support (support seems like a odd word choice, is a "riot" a form of "support") ... of Jacob Blake, a complete piece of ****. A known gang member, drug dealer, felon, who was actively violating a restraining order. Who was ordered to STOP 5+ times, who was ordered 3 times to NOT reach into his car, but did so any ways. And what was he reaching for? a weapon ...

Nothing you wrote here negates the statement I made. From the videos I saw there were numerous scuffles, and only one dipshit shot and killed anyone.
 

nytigerfan

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I am not interested in his worldview to be honest. Most people tend to be very opinionated one way or the other. There is clear video evidence of what transpired and he clearly acted in self defense and I am thinking you would have pulled the trigger too if you were in his shoes. I will agree that he never should of been there in the first place.

It is interesting that in this case you are not concerned with his "worldview" and yet anyone that disagrees with Trump you immediately correlate their worldview - never trumper or deep state - to their actions.

Also interesting that claim this kid is innocent because you heard he was hired by a store owner to provide protection, and yet you claim the capital police officer who shot Ashli Babbitt is a murderer.

Strange.
 

PAWrocka

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Good points. Agree that there are far right weirdos out there that want to live out a fantasy of gunning down terrorists through this guy. But in the interest of being objective and unbiased let’s also include that there are far left weirdos out there that want this guy to burn simply because they view him as a political adversary
The narrative is here is so bizarre for me ...

everyone involved in this is white ... One of the violent rioters Rittenhouse defended himself against was, on video, yelling racial slurs and setting black owned businesses on fire ...and Rittenhouse is the racist? and this case is about racial inequity and white priviledge ....when everyone involved is white .....????????????

Life comes at you fast in 2021 ....
 
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scotchtiger

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It is interesting that in this case you are not concerned with his "worldview" and yet anyone that disagrees with Trump you immediately correlate their worldview - never trumper or deep state - to their actions.

Also interesting that claim this kid is innocent because you heard he was hired by a store owner to provide protection, and yet you claim the capital police officer who shot Ashli Babbitt is a murderer.

Strange.

It's so nice residing on the throne of logic and reason. Kid's worldview sucks and should be concerning (zero excuse for the white supremacist signs). He didn't commit murder. Capital police officer was justified in shooting Babbitt.
 

ctcseb

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It's so nice residing on the throne of logic and reason. Kid's worldview sucks and should be concerning (zero excuse for the white supremacist signs). He didn't commit murder. Capital police officer was justified in shooting Babbitt.
Can you please run for President? I will donate the max allowable donation to your campaign. This country could solve the majority of its challenges with someone that uses facts and logic at the helm. Don’t care what party you are running under, I will support you. Reasonable solutions instead of partisanship is what will drive this country out of the funk we are in.
 

TigerGrowls

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It is interesting that in this case you are not concerned with his "worldview" and yet anyone that disagrees with Trump you immediately correlate their worldview - never trumper or deep state - to their actions.

Also interesting that claim this kid is innocent because you heard he was hired by a store owner to provide protection, and yet you claim the capital police officer who shot Ashli Babbitt is a murderer.

Strange.
I did not say the officer is necessarily a murderer. He needs to go on trial just like Rittenhouse is.
 

scotchtiger

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Can you please run for President? I will donate the max allowable donation to your campaign. This country could solve the majority of its challenges with someone that uses facts and logic at the helm. Don’t care what party you are running under, I will support you. Reasonable solutions instead of partisanship is what will drive this country out of the funk we are in.

Doesn't matter how much you donate - the election will be rigged.

 

nytigerfan

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I think the officer should go on trial based on what I have seen. He killed an unarmed woman at close range.

and what do you think the result of this fictional trial should be? You clearly have an opinion on this Rittenhouse trial.
 

TigerGrowls

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and what do you think the result of this fictional trial should be? You clearly have an opinion on this Rittenhouse trial.
Well the right to self defense trumps everything else. We have the guy that got on the stand and said he was going to shoot Rittenhouse. He is innocent of the charges they are trying him for. He is guilty of having terrible judgement and possibly being a young hothead with not the best intentions in going there but all of that is immaterial to the charges. He was attacked.
 
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PAWrocka

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interesting/fascinating happenings in the deliberations ...

apparently there was footage from a drone, prior to Rittenhouse shooting Rosenbaum, that shows an altercation between them that could show Rittenhouse provoking Rosenbaum. Its States evidence and was only shown once to the jury during the trial. Jury wants to see it again ..... here is the problem..... during discovery the State provided the footage to the defense, but teh file was in Standard Def and the file was only 3.56MB, but the footage shown to the jury was in HD and 11.2MB ..... so the Defense has filed a motion to declare a mistrail (with prejudice) the trial because the State "withheld" evidence. The "with prejudice" means that the States purposefully withheld the HD footage because they knew the case was not going as planned so they purposefully presented the footage in hopes of a mistrial so they could start over ..... if judge rules in favor of a mistrial and grants with prejudice ..... Rittenhouse walks and the State cant re try him.


I havent seen the HD footage ....
 

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I find it interesting that everyone wants to blame the liberal media on their handling of "biased" stories like the Russia collusion. Where did they get the info that they reported? Pretty sure it was the same people who told us:
  1. They were not spying on everyday Americans (Snowden showed that to be a lie)
  2. Saddam had weapons of mass destruction and must be eliminated
  3. Claimed that there was nothing wrong with governments around the world using Pegasus to target individuals (until recently)
Our 'intelligence' services seem to keep getting the facts wrong that they leak to the press. Maybe everyone should stop listening to them or hiring them as TV talking heads after they retire.

Matt Taibbi has a lot of great stuff in his newsletter on the problems with the relationship between journalists and the intelligence services.
 
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As expected, the usual suspects are ITT defending the rioters, vilifying Rittenhouse, and are completely lost on the facts of the trial, yet 100% assured of themselves that they’re in the right calling for KR’s head

Useful idiots who have swallowed the media narrative hook, line, and sinker
 

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As expected, the usual suspects are ITT defending the rioters, vilifying Rittenhouse, and are completely lost on the facts of the trial, yet 100% assured of themselves that they’re in the right calling for KR’s head

Useful idiots who have swallowed the media narrative hook, line, and sinker
Lol. What is wrong with you? Always been like this, or didn't something happen?
 

Hammerdawg.NEAR

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Lol. What is wrong with you? Always been like this, or didn't something happen?
It’s not what happened to me my man, it’s what’s happened to you and the rest of the dummies who still get their info from the corporate media. You’re brainwashed and disinformed, this trial has put that on full display

But hey, you guys love the propaganda and don’t care if it’s true or not. Push that white supremacy narrative at all costs baby
 

Hammerdawg.NEAR

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He shot one of the "victims" in the back.
"victims"

Tell me you dont understand whats going on without telling me you dont understand whats going on

Microcosm for the state of the nation. Aren't you the resident distinguished, educated west-coaster? How are you so lost?
 
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