Why do you guys act like Flood has some ulterior motive to screw over Rettig and favor Laviano? Can't you just see this for what it is? We have two essentially equal QBs and Flood simply doesn't know who to pick because they're playing just about the same. End of story. There's no motive. He wants Rutgers to win as many games as possible, just like the rest of us.
Laviano vs. Rettig
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This is misplaced thinking. Flood certainly wants to win games and certainly wanted to win when nova was throwing six interceptions .
Still was a wrong decision and misplaced loyalty/favoritism. Can want to win and still make judgment errors. The presumption that flood has to eant to lose to play favorites is in error.
Still was a wrong decision and misplaced loyalty/favoritism. Can want to win and still make judgment errors. The presumption that flood has to eant to lose to play favorites is in error.
Can't understand why some are acting like Hayden was unjustly pulled from starting the second half.
Thought it was known Hayden would play the first half and Chris would start the second.
Sounds like some RU fans are watching to many daytime soap operas and becoming Drama Queens themselves
Thought it was known Hayden would play the first half and Chris would start the second.
Sounds like some RU fans are watching to many daytime soap operas and becoming Drama Queens themselves
Agreed that desire to win doesn't necessarily fall in line with correct decision making. I stand corrected on that front.
However, what makes you think Flood is "favoring" Laviano? They're both playing evenly and he wants to see both play more. It's not that complicated. They're even and he doesn't know who to pick. Neither do I
Nothing learned here today except both QBs looked good against inferior talent all across the board.
Missed that halftime statement, remember him saying this a couple of days ago :
"We're going to evaluate the first half and we'll make a decision at halftime as to how we're going to proceed.''
Starting Chris the second half was just giving him equal opportunity and that's what I felt Flood would be doing all along.
"We're going to evaluate the first half and we'll make a decision at halftime as to how we're going to proceed.''
Starting Chris the second half was just giving him equal opportunity and that's what I felt Flood would be doing all along.
Rettig did more than enough today to earn the start next week. He ran the offense well and made some nice throws. He also did it w/o Carroo and during the first half while Norfolk St. was still hanging in there. They were done in the second half. Most of Laviano's yardage was the result of his receiver's efforts. His throws were mostly dump-offs and his deep balls lacked accuracy. Rettig also has the much higher physical ceiling. The biggest knock on him is that he needs experience. I say let him play and get that experience.
I think the most likely scenario was both QBs were going to play in some capacity this game. The hand was sort of forced for Rettig to play the first half after Laviano got suspended. I also think many people assumed that this meant Rettig would be the unequivocal starter assuming he played well the first half, when in reality Flood was always going to give Laviano a chance.
We will see.
Yea now I can see what he was doing all along even though he said he didn't know. But I really thought if Rettig played well in the 1st half he would start the second. I think the starting decision for the season was already made and Rettig was not getting it no matter what he did.
The announcers said that Laviano would probably play the second half. Flood saying he did not know in the interview to me said that Flood was pleased with Rettig's play. Flood must have communicated with the announcers before the game that he was going to play both guys, one in each half to see how they looked in a live game.
Each guy threw virtual INT's lol Maybe they will be evaluated on how many passes should have been intercepted and how many touch downs that would not have been if the receiver was not named Carroo. lol crazy
Why are people so literally obseessd with Hayden? He played good but so did Chris. Whoever Flood picks is fine.
A LOT was learned today. We learned we have two good QBs
Did anyone else think Chris throws a cleaner, tight spiral as opposed to Hayden, who's got a wobbly release?
Of course the staff evaluates on more than just the pure stats. It is better to throw the ball away than make a bad decision and get a completion by a great play by the receiver.
I haven't said much about the QB's because I never really saw Rettig play, I don't like playing favorites, and stars at this point mean less. Plus I'm always nervous when we get a former big prospect who ended up transferring.
However, after watching him live I must say Rettig has serious skills. He throws bullets and his ball placement is very good. This kid can fling it and doesn't lock on 1 receiver. I hate to say it but I think Rettig is the superior talent.
David Milewski was on post game show and when asked, he said he thought Rettig had the better game. He mentioned going through progressions and making a few tough throws. He also said Laviano's were throws that anyone could have made. But that is his opinion.
My thoughts...Boy it is nice to have Caroo!!!!!!!!!!!
My thoughts...Boy it is nice to have Caroo!!!!!!!!!!!
What I have witnessed from being at the game etc. Is that people who know who Rettig is, I.e. 4 stars LSU transfer etc. Keep saying he should start and say he had the better game.
But those who don't know about his pedigree say Laviano looks better. I think people are def skewed based on pedigree and not results. As the results have been even and I think Laviano brings more energy and has a nicer throw, while Rettig has better pri style skills and mechanics.
But those who don't know about his pedigree say Laviano looks better. I think people are def skewed based on pedigree and not results. As the results have been even and I think Laviano brings more energy and has a nicer throw, while Rettig has better pri style skills and mechanics.
I thought Rettig had a more impressive outing. He faced a fresh defense without some players and did it with pressure on his shoulders. Laviano obviously did well, but he only threw the ball 4 times.....with 3 of those times to a wide open Caroo, probably his first progression. He also under threw the first pass. I dunno, it's hard to tell...
What halftime statement? I was under the same impression you were, i.e., the whoever started the 2nd half was Flood's "starter" from here on out. I'd be much happier to hear that he just game them both a half to evaluate them (just got back home, so haven't had a chance to read the board to find out what Flood may have said).
My impression was Rettig had a slight edge - really loved that first long completion where he put the ball in a spot where only the WR could catch it (Patton?) - and he was more mobile than I expected. Also threw a few lasers and only the one bad throw, where I don't think he even saw the LB underneath (but he threw it so hard the LB couldn't catch it).
Laviano also played well, although that first TD pass to Carroo was a bad pass that Carroo made a highlight reel catch on; his 2nd TD pass to LC was an awesome play: great playfake, nice roll out to his left and a great pass to an open Carroo (ignoring a less open WR further downfield, which would've been a much harder pass to complete), who caught it and did the res.
At this point, I'm not going to complain about who gets the nod. I just hope our depleted secondary can be helped, because they were abysmal.
yes - Carroo makes any QB look good. Yes, after the Grant TD run - hard to say how hard NSU was playing...
but (JMHO) Laviano read the field better, managed the huddle quicker, and had a quicker release... He will start next week.
but (JMHO) Laviano read the field better, managed the huddle quicker, and had a quicker release... He will start next week.
Both looked excellent. Rettig was 9-11, made a lot of good decisions & a few surprisingly nice runs, some very good throws, & 1 bad throw. Laviano was 4-4 with one bad throw (not as bad as Rettig's bad throw and ended up being a touchdown because Caroo).
Hard to choose.
Hard to choose.
you are certainly entitled to your opinion - but how do you determine that Hayden ran the offense better? We have no clue if he carried out the game plan properly or not. He may have checked in to the wrong play ten times and we wouldn't really know. I saw him get into a couple of delay of game situations (which could be the new OCs fault too).
You fault Laviano for hitting his dump off passes, why? When quarterbacking, you are supposed to hit the correct receiver on each pass play.. so if thats the dump off, you make sure you take it.
What exactly is higher about Hayden's physical ceiling? What does that mean actually?
We have two good QBs.
Both kids had one bad throw. People keep mentioning the underthrow TD to Carroo but not all reference the near INT. Both played well. Rettig seemed to read the field better, but Laviano held his own and was crisp in his playfakes and keeping eyes downfield too. The offense seemed to hum along better w Laviano.
I didn't fault Laviano for hitting dump offs. My point is that his stats were misleading based on such. As for Rettig having the higher ceiling, that has been noted by the Mods on this site repeatably all year.
David Milewski said after the game that Rettig showed more and should be the guy based on today. He knows a lot more than you for sure.