Konate should be in or out.

WVpride304

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He obviously can’t take another year of playing college basketball and being a student athlete. He won’t be back next year anyway. If he’s not going to be a team player and practice and play every game then Huggs should tell him he’s done or suspend him. Play the guys who will be back next year and get better for next year. If we’re not going to make NCAA tourney than Konate needs to go away. Guy let success go to his head and got screwed up in head worse than he already was. Huggs should move on and tell Konate to hit the road if we aren’t making the big dance tourney. No need to put up with a punk who won’t be a team player and sit out half the games and practices.

Culver, Rout, Gordon all return. Play and grow with them if Konate won’t man up.
 

WVUALLEN

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No practice no play is Huggs policy. No matter who you are. But I thought Konate's Brother made the decisions for his family matters.
 

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No practice no play is Huggs policy. No matter who you are. But I thought Konate's Brother made the decisions for his family matters.

Actually, it's "no practice, no start". Last week Sags didn't practice before the Pitt game but played. I think now Huggs is sending a message, which I agree with.
 

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Actually, it's "no practice, no start". Last week Sags didn't practice before the Pitt game but played. I think now Huggs is sending a message, which I agree with.

Sags did practice some that week. He didn't sit out all of them.

“I’m way more patient than I was. I’ve always had a rule if you don’t practice, you don’t play. I still have it, but I try to trick ‘em more than I used to,” he said.

https://www.wvnews.com/morgantownne...cle_c3619bff-bb41-56e1-b54f-dcbffb798d80.html
 

writeon

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I think the brother has Sags' ear and is looking ahead to NBA money. If so, he's doing it 100% wrongly.
 

deedoubleyou

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They are banking a lot on a player who is a long shot to stick in the NBA in the first place. This whole debacle is only further hurting his chances. Coming from another country, I have to wonder if they just dont realize what they are doing, because its really the entire wrong approach to all of this.
 
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Since Sags is on crutches for Jacksonville and will be out 2 to 4 weeks I think we can stop wondering if he's a team player, or about his brother. Knee injury obviously is serious. And that will hurt his NBA chances, too. Little for his NBA resume this season. I feel bad for Sags.
 

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Since Sags is on crutches for Jacksonville and will be out 2 to 4 weeks I think we can stop wondering if he's a team player, or about his brother. Knee injury obviously is serious. And that will hurt his NBA chances, too. Little for his NBA resume this season. I feel bad for Sags.

He was never making NBA.
 

deedoubleyou

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Sags has a unique skillset that couldve landed him in the NBA strictly as a role player back in the day, but he has a tiny chance of making it, and how it has gone for him this season has only made it worse. He's a 6'8" guy who's game looks like a 7 footer. Not very nimble or quick. Great blocker though and can score pretty good against weak competition.
 
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What was strange I thought was that Sags wasn’t on the team bench today. Why was he sitting in a stadium seat away from the team?

Sags has a unique skillset that couldve landed him in the NBA strictly as a role player back in the day, but he has a tiny chance of making it, and how it has gone for him this season has only made it worse. He's a 6'8" guy who's game looks like a 7 footer. Not very nimble or quick. Great blocker though and can score pretty good against weak competition.
 
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Some of you are funny.

Konate needs to develop a shot.
This is what was told to him by NBA scouts.

Konate is a liability on offense in the current NBA.
You spread the court with shooters and you have a bunch of slashers.

Konate at 6'8 is not an issue.
He could be a perfect center in the NBA.

If he can hit a 20 foot shot with consistency and run the floor.

He will end up being a 2 way player.
Meaning he will sign a NBA and be developed in the G League.

Funny thing is the coaching in the G League is said to be better than college.
 
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With the 5 you don't need a guy who can create off the dribble but you need someone that can clear out the middle.

The percentage of shots in the paint and behind the 3 point line is increasing.
Pretty much the only two shots in today's basketball.

If Konate can't hit from outside his man will stay near the key and then you don't have the middle open.
 

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Actually, it's "no practice, no start". Last week Sags didn't practice before the Pitt game but played. I think now Huggs is sending a message, which I agree with.

Huggs told Tony on the pre-game today that his rule was no practice, no play, nothing about no start. He even went on to say it wasn't fair to the other guys like Rout and Gordon for Sags to play and take minutes away from them when he didn't practice any. He also said that he would have to practice a full week before playing again. This now seems to be a moot point if he has a torn meniscus.
 

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I have a left over pair of crutches in my closet too. Maybe I'll take them out go for a hop around the Mall looking for some sympathy.
 

deedoubleyou

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I dont remember him limping off the floor against Pitt but maybe I missed it? Did he get hurt at home or something? All the sudden after his best game of the season, he's limping and on crutches from an injury that no one saw him sustain. Just seems like he's going though some emotional/ego related stuff and is using his knee and an excuse. He's no stranger to showing how emotional he can be. He's definitely got a little head case in him and that was obvious last season.
 

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Injuries happen in games, practice and everyday living. Speculating about the where, what, when and why is a waste of time. It appears that he is injured and needs time to recover. That being said he deserves "the benefit of the doubt" and the team and fans should move on without him in their immediate or long term plans. If and/or when he becomes available, Huggs will determine if he gets back into the lineup and can help the team. Disparaging him or his family serves no purpose and IMHO has no place on this board.
 

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Some of you are funny.

Konate needs to develop a shot.
This is what was told to him by NBA scouts.

Konate is a liability on offense in the current NBA.
You spread the court with shooters and you have a bunch of slashers.

Konate at 6'8 is not an issue.
He could be a perfect center in the NBA.

If he can hit a 20 foot shot with consistency and run the floor.

He will end up being a 2 way player.
Meaning he will sign a NBA and be developed in the G League.

Funny thing is the coaching in the G League is said to be better than college.

He would be one of the shortest Centers ever in the NBA....like Ben Wallace.
 

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The supposed Golden St death lineup features Draymond Green at center

C Green
PF Durant
SF Iguodala
PG Curry
SG Thompson

Even with Cousins on their team that will be their go to lineup.

He is primarily a power forward.

But it doesnt matter. At 6'8, hed be one of the shortest centers in nba history. Wes Unself, Ben Wallace...

Barkley occassionally played center, so did johnson..but not as primary position.
 

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Some of you are funny.

Konate needs to develop a shot.
This is what was told to him by NBA scouts.

Konate is a liability on offense in the current NBA.
You spread the court with shooters and you have a bunch of slashers.

Konate at 6'8 is not an issue.
He could be a perfect center in the NBA.

If he can hit a 20 foot shot with consistency and run the floor.

He will end up being a 2 way player.
Meaning he will sign a NBA and be developed in the G League.

Funny thing is the coaching in the G League is said to be better than college.

He will enjoy Europe.
 
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Truthfully Europe would be good for Konate.

They would force Konate to learn how to shoot and run the floor.
European basketball is the direction the NBA is heading.
Reason why so many of their players come to the league and now even the coaching.

Their game is about passing and moving without the ball.
More importantly spacing the court.
 
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The paint in International Basketball is bigger.
This forces players to be perimeter players.

I know you said that as an attack on Konate but truthfully it really isn't.

He will be a G League player. If drafted by the right organization he could be a potential good player in the NBA.

Things he does on the defensive end is important when you spread the floor .
You need rim protection and rebounding.

Thing is he needs to get more explosive.
He could be a great offensive rebounder.

Former Texas player Tristan Thompson has made a NBA career doing these things.
 

deedoubleyou

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One good game out of 11 in 2018 followed by sitting out from a mystery injury with strange family involvement isnt going to get him much love from NBA scouts. He will have to have a monster season in conference play to find himself back on their radar in any capacity imo.
 
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One good game out of 11 in 2018 followed by sitting out from a mystery injury with strange family involvement isnt going to get him much love from NBA scouts. He will have to have a monster season in conference play to find himself back on their radar in any capacity imo.

You have no idea about the NBA...

NBA drafts on one thing and that is potential.
Doesn't matter if Konate plays one game or 32.
The NBA already has an idea about who he is.
The question with Konate is if he can develop something on offense or will he be a liability on the floor.
He needs a shot or to become an explosive player that can be a garbage man around the rim.
 

deedoubleyou

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You have no idea about the NBA...

NBA drafts on one thing and that is potential.
Doesn't matter if Konate plays one game or 32.
The NBA already has an idea about who he is.
The question with Konate is if he can develop something on offense or will he be a liability on the floor.
He needs a shot or to become an explosive player that can be a garbage man around the rim.

And he hasnt, which is kind of my point. In fact while trying to shoot outside jumpers he not only did poorly, but hurt his team in the process. He came into this season trying to impress NBA scouts with his new found outside game and it didnt look worthy of Fairmont State let alone the Lakers or Jazz . His only chance to get any consideration is to get his defensive and inside game back from last year and improve on it. He could potentially find a role player job in the NBA or make the developmental league if he did that.
 
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And he hasnt, which is kind of my point. In fact while trying to shoot outside jumpers he not only did poorly, but hurt his team in the process. He came into this season trying to impress NBA scouts with his new found outside game and it didnt look worthy of Fairmont State let alone the Lakers or Jazz . His only chance to get any consideration is to get his defensive and inside game back from last year and improve on it. He could potentially find a role player job in the NBA or make the developmental league if he did that.

Jevon Carter and Miles forced teams to play fast.
This allowed Konate to protect the rim if teams got out of the press.

A big is only as good as his guards.
On both offense and defense.
 
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Even if you put Konate in the post...

You will have backside help from the defense.

That leaves open shooters or for a cut.
Konate isn't a great passer.
Plus Konate clogging the middle hurts other players who are slashers and want to get to the rim.

Basketball has evolved to a point that having a low post presence isn't enough.
 

deedoubleyou

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Jevon Carter and Miles forced teams to play fast.
This allowed Konate to protect the rim if teams got out of the press.

A big is only as good as his guards.
On both offense and defense.

The thing about Konate is that you dont see him in the gym working hard extra hours to improve his game like you did Jevon. Everyone knew Jevon worked his butt off even when he didnt have to. He's playing in the NBA as a result. So far Konate hasnt shown the kind of drive he needs to improve to that level. He came into the season looking worse than the last two years, and that say a lot. He didnt even play the game that got him a look in the first place until Pitt. Even without Carter and Miles he looked back to form from last year against Pitt. His problem is that he came into the season trying to do what the NBA scouts told him to work on last year and it was obvious that either he hadnt worked on it very hard, or he just doesnt have the skillset to improve those things much. Either way, you can bet he's waaaaaaaaay low on the NBA scout radar at the moment.
 

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One good game out of 11 in 2018 followed by sitting out from a mystery injury with strange family involvement isnt going to get him much love from NBA scouts. He will have to have a monster season in conference play to find himself back on their radar in any capacity imo.

The nba seems to only care about pure talent.
 

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You have no idea about the NBA...

NBA drafts on one thing and that is potential.
Doesn't matter if Konate plays one game or 32.
The NBA already has an idea about who he is.
The question with Konate is if he can develop something on offense or will he be a liability on the floor.
He needs a shot or to become an explosive player that can be a garbage man around the rim.

The NBA drafts on potential? Then why is my phone not ringing offen the stinking hook? Warez