Kofi

Cowtown Cat

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Not a great fit…. hell he’s better than Oscar .
So far in their careers, yes. BUT, Oscar didn’t play last season, but a few games. Not real fair to compare both of their college careers thus far. Oscar was ranked slightly above Kofi out of high school.

I will say that they bring different qualities to your team, even though they play the same position. They also bring some of the same qualities as well. I don’t know, I just think Cal could’ve made Kofi at UK work.
 
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Cowtown Cat

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Exactly..Kofi is a absolute beast. I watched them against Iowa to checkout CJ Frederick and he was a man amongst boys!
He would have dominated at UK and may end up being the missing piece to a Title this year.
We have know inside players like him on this team!
Right. We don’t have that big, bruising 7 footer. I think Cal made a mistake here. People can bash me if they want. It’s whatever.
 

STL_Cat

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It’s funny that people claim Kofi wasn’t a good fit. When has Cal EVER taken roster fit into consideration before? He’s always tried to fit a square peg into a round hole at UK. JMO.
The comical thing about it is we have literally the exact same posters now saying Cal passed on Kofi because he wasn’t a good fit, that were the EXACT same posters who, when asked “who is our star player?” Would answer “it’s going to be kofi” when all the rumors were pointing to him transferring here. People that don’t see the comedy in that are just missing it
 

wildcatdon

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I would love to see Cal stop the damn switching everything on defense. We don’t know how to guard people nor are we quick enough at most positions to make that work. If he would stop that we might be able to win a few more games. We get abused most of the time. And I too think he should have taken Kofi. Cal is too damn stubborn for his own good.
 

Kingslayer07

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At the start of last season did anyone think Illinois was good enough to get a 1 seed? How bout UCLA making final 4?
This notion that our roster isn't good enough is bogus. You don't have to have a dominant freshman to win a title.
Sure cal has been better with great freshman but the whole team were freshmen at that time
I'll go on record saying this is the best roster we have had minus 2015 from top to bottom.
#9/10 on roster are much better players than 9/10 from 2015
I sure hope you're right. I'm trying to stay positive lol.
 

Kingslayer07

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I would love to see Cal stop the damn switching everything on defense. We don’t know how to guard people nor are we quick enough at most positions to make that work. If he would stop that we might be able to win a few more games. We get abused most of the time. And I too think he should have taken Kofi. Cal is too damn stubborn for his own good.
Switching everything all the time is just plain lazy. I hate it too.
 

Cowtown Cat

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Switching everything all the time is just plain lazy. I hate it too.
Exactly what beat us against Wisconsin. The officiating didn’t help, but still. Had we pulled out of the switching everything defense, we throttle that Wisconsin team. Should’ve also picked up full court IMO. Make them eat up time on the shot clock. In turn, they would have to rush their offensive sets.
 
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anon_ce2llurbpkli4

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Guys, forgive my ignorance as I am neither a recruiting guru nor do I keep up with who has reliable inside info.

I see literally dozens of people in the Duren threads stating that Cal passed on Kofi as fact. Can anyone actually confirm this, and that Kofi didn’t simply pass on us?

I’m not freaking out like a lot on here. Even though I typically tire of Cal’s cliches such as “I like my team”, this year I actually DO like our team as currently constructed. But I must have missed that losing Kofi was 100% because we turned him down. So again, can someone please provide factual evidence of this? Thanks in advance.
Kofi couldn’t even handle this guy. Guy went for 19/12/5 against Kofi and led Loyola to a 71-58 win over Kofi’s #1 seed Illinois. Cal passed on Kofi and rightfully so.


 

Cowtown Cat

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Kofi couldn’t even handle this guy. Guy went for 19/12/5 against Kofi and led Loyola to a 71-58 win over Kofi’s #1 seed Illinois. Cal passed on Kofi and rightfully so.


Him being a second team AA trumps ONE tournament game. That’s just absurd. If that were the logic, Cal wouldn’t ever sign anyone. We’ve had several guys that have given up 19 points to their opponent.
 

christophero

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May 2, 2017
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Kofi seems like the perfect guy to play 20 minutes and wear teams down. Not many teams can handle him down low. Not sure how his game will translate to the NBA, which is why he came back.
 

TheWyldKat_rivals45219

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Kofi couldn’t even handle this guy. Guy went for 19/12/5 against Kofi and led Loyola to a 71-58 win over Kofi’s #1 seed Illinois. Cal passed on Kofi and rightfully so.


It’s basketball, a team sport, it’s hard to judge off one game.
 

cats#1again

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Exactly..Kofi is a absolute beast. I watched them against Iowa to checkout CJ Frederick and he was a man amongst boys!
He would have dominated at UK and may end up being the missing piece to a Title this year.
We have know inside players like him on this team!
Then obviously you haven't watched oscar. They play the exact game. Same length, same bruising low post game. Oscar shoots the ball better from beyond 10 ft and runs the floor better.

Kofi is very heavy footed and can't leap very fast off the ground
Oscar can
 
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anon_ce2llurbpkli4

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Him being a second team AA trumps ONE tournament game. That’s just absurd. If that were the logic, Cal wouldn’t ever sign anyone. We’ve had several guys that have given up 19 points to their opponent.
Kofi doesn’t have a mid range jump shot, can’t shoot free throws, gets abused on switching onto smaller, quicker guards and stays in foul trouble. That’s a whole season worth of evaluations. There’s a reason the NBA didn’t want him.
 

STL_Cat

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Kofi doesn’t have a mid range jump shot, can’t shoot free throws, gets abused on switching into smaller, quicker guards and stays in foul trouble. That’s a whole season worth of evaluations. There’s a reason the NBA didn’t want him.
I’m not saying you’re wrong, but it’s incredible that when it looked like there was a good chance he was coming here, he was being promoted as the answer to the question of “who is our star?”

you should have been here to tell them all how bad he was then (maybe you did?)
 
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track42

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Kofi doesn’t have a mid range jump shot, can’t shoot free throws, gets abused on switching onto smaller, quicker guards and stays in foul trouble. That’s a whole season worth of evaluations. There’s a reason the NBA didn’t want him.
You just also described Oscar.Should we dump him off the team?
 
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anon_ce2llurbpkli4

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I’m not saying you’re wrong, but it’s incredible that when it looked like there was a good chance he was coming here, he was being promoted as the answer to the question of “who is our star?”

you should have been here to tell them all how bad he was then (maybe you did?)
Everybody gets caught up in the hype in recruiting. That’s understandable. As far as being here to tell people how good or bad someone is, it’s an exercise in futility. Once someone’s made their mind up about someone, their opinion isn’t going to be swayed.
 

Raroyder

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Then obviously you haven't watched oscar. They play the exact game. Same length, same bruising low post game. Oscar shoots the ball better from beyond 10 ft and runs the floor better.

Kofi is very heavy footed and can't leap very fast off the ground
Oscar can

I personally had Oscar in a college bb league last year and watched every game he played at WV until he left. To compare the two is flat out offensive to Kofi, they (last year) were not even in the same solar system.

OTs "low bruising" post game consisted of him spinning his pivot foot around then choosing a fade away bank shot. Maybe they can teach him out of that this year, the two are not comparable in any way from the actual college ball I have watched. Derek Culver is the one that had a low bruising post game on that team, not OT.
 

track42

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Why take on another player with the same deficiencies?
I mean let's be honest in saying Kofi is better.Oscar is 6'7 and lost his starting job to a player better than him on freaking West Virginia.Sometimes you have to take your blue tinted glasses off.
 
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I mean let's be honest in saying Kofi is better.Oscar is 6'7 and lost his starting job to a player better than him on freaking West Virginia.Sometimes you have to take your blue tinted glasses off.
Are you Kofi’s agent?
 

cats#1again

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I personally had Oscar in a college bb league last year and watched every game he played at WV until he left. To compare the two is flat out offensive to Kofi, they (last year) were not even in the same solar system.

OTs "low bruising" post game consisted of him spinning his pivot foot around then choosing a fade away bank shot. Maybe they can teach him out of that this year, the two are not comparable in any way from the actual college ball I have watched. Derek Culver is the one that had a low bruising post game on that team, not OT.
He played 10 games and didn't want to play 1. It was obvious there was something going on behind the scenes. I have no idea why anyone would judge a kid on a 3 -4 week period of a season in which had turmoil
Look at his tapes from his first year.

Also, if Kofi was what you are making him out to be he would have been at high demand in the draft. He is a big body that will power in some dunks. That's bout it. He can't defend whatsoever.
 

kyledakota3

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Are you Kofi’s agent?
I'm not in this fight but I think most would agree that Kofi is a taller and better version of Oscar.I get that it's popular to knock the player that went elsewhere and some are now saying even Duren wasn't really good.
 
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cats#1again

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I mean let's be honest in saying Kofi is better.Oscar is 6'7 and lost his starting job to a player better than him on freaking West Virginia.Sometimes you have to take your blue tinted glasses off.
He's 6'9 and didn't lose his starting job. He started every game west Virginia played from the time he arrived on campus.
 

kyledakota3

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He's 6'9 and didn't lose his starting job. He started every game west Virginia played from the time he arrived on campus.
He lost his starting position to Culver.He still started but Culver outplayed him and grabbed the position he wanted to play.That's why he came here.
 

cats#1again

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I'm not in this fight but I think most would agree that Kofi is a taller and better version of Oscar.I get that it's popular to knock the player that went elsewhere and some are now saying even Duren wasn't really good.
He's taller no doubt.
Listen , Im just not a fan of slow clogger centers that can't move. Dakari was the same way and I never cared for his game.

Their first season in college was very similar. He wanted out of w Virginia n the rest is history.
 
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anon_ce2llurbpkli4

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I'm not in this fight but I think most would agree that Kofi is a taller and better version of Oscar.I get that it's popular to knock the player that went elsewhere and some are now saying even Duren wasn't really good.
If Kofi was as great as some posters make him out to be, don’t you think he would have been on the roster? We had room for him. Orlando Antigua and Chin Coleman obviously didn’t think he was a good fit either or otherwise they would have been able to convince Cal to take him.
 
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Raroyder

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He played 10 games and didn't want to play 1. It was obvious there was something going on behind the scenes. I have no idea why anyone would judge a kid on a 3 -4 week period of a season in which had turmoil
Look at his tapes from his first year.

Also, if Kofi was what you are making him out to be he would have been at high demand in the draft. He is a big body that will power in some dunks. That's bout it. He can't defend whatsoever.
I can only judge by what I see, that's true it was a handful of games at D1 last year. So I'm not sure where everyone is coming with all of these other traits that Oscar has, mine is just based on reality of what we've seen so far. Everything else is conjecture.
 

cats#1again

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He lost his starting position to Culver.He still started but Culver outplayed him and grabbed the position he wanted to play.That's why he came here

He lost his starting position to Culver.He still started but Culver outplayed him and grabbed the position he wanted to play.That's why he came here.
No he didn't like how they were gonna use him with another big. You can make up all day what you think but it's not true.
Then he didn't lose his starting spot if he was still starting.


Imagine if we looked at IQ only for the first 10 games of his soph season and judged him. There were people wanting him to never get in another game. Situations behind the scenes affect performances.
 

cats#1again

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I can only judge by what I see, that's true it was a handful of games at D1 last year. So I'm not sure where everyone is coming with all of these other traits that Oscar has, mine is just based on reality of what we've seen so far. Everything else is conjecture.
31 games from the season before
 

bucsrule8872

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I mean let's be honest in saying Kofi is better.Oscar is 6'7 and lost his starting job to a player better than him on freaking West Virginia.Sometimes you have to take your blue tinted glasses off.
Tshiebwe started all 41 games he played at WVU, including 10 last year.
 

bucsrule8872

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Tshiebwe played very well at WVU as a Freshman, then was moved out of position as a Sophomore and left after playing 10 games out of position with poor results.

If that happens at UK, Cal is a terrible coach for playing Tshiebwe out of position, but since it happened at another school, it’s definitely not the coach’s fault for playing him out of position. LOL!

I think playing out of position, plus being reportedly out of shape after the lockdown probably contributed to his lowered efficiency.
 

bookerfan66

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Tshiebwe played very well at WVU as a Freshman, then was moved out of position as a Sophomore and left after playing 10 games out of position with poor results.

If that happens at UK, Cal is a terrible coach for playing Tshiebwe out of position, but since it happened at another school, it’s definitely not the coach’s fault for playing him out of position. LOL!

I think playing out of position, plus being reportedly out of shape after the lockdown probably contributed to his lowered efficiency.
Maybe or maybe he's not as good as some thought.We will see soon enough but I don't see Oscar as a star type player.
 

jessieshorts8

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Well Cal doesn't have the youth excuse this season so it's time to put up or shut up.He needs to get to the Final 4.
 

bucsrule8872

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Maybe or maybe he's not as good as some thought.We will see soon enough but I don't see Oscar as a star type player.
I don’t either.

I think he plays 20-25 minutes a game and probably averages around 10 points and 9 rebounds a game.

And if you think that is far fetched, that is on par with his career at WVU.

With the guards/wings we have, that should be enough.
 

Cowtown Cat

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Kofi doesn’t have a mid range jump shot, can’t shoot free throws, gets abused on switching onto smaller, quicker guards and stays in foul trouble. That’s a whole season worth of evaluations. There’s a reason the NBA didn’t want him.
I don’t give a damn about the NBA. Guess what? The NBA didn’t want Oscar, Brooks or Toppin. Should we have sent them packing as well?! 🤔
 
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