Kofi announcing Friday

bucsrule8872

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Totally agree with that.

If you have the option to get Kofi...........you get him.

I think that's true regardless who you have currently on the team. Same with Duren
Duren is a much, much better fit on this team.

Problem is, Duren is no sure thing.

If Cockburn wanted to come, I would have taken him personally. But I don’t know the whole situation.

Such is the life of a fan. Your happiness is at the mercy of coaches and players.
 

track42

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Cal still should have taken him if the rumors were true and let the chips fall where they may.He would have been our best player.
True.Coming off 9-16 you can't afford it.But I think it's all lies because no way Cal turns down a guy like Kofi.
 
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I mean to me this like 2010.

You have an Eric Bledsoe..........really good player.

John Wall wants to come.

You aren't going to tell Wall hmm yeah well we already have Bledsoe so no thanks.

You aren't going to tell Kofi, yeah we are kinda crowded at that position. I think you find room for a guy like him.
 

bucsrule8872

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True.Coming off 9-16 you can't afford it.But I think it's all lies because no way Cal turns down a guy like Kofi.
If he turned him down, so be it. It’s his program to run.

On the surface it looks like a bonehead move, but maybe he thinks Duren is worth the gamble or he is just happy with the roster he has.

Sometimes more is less and less is more when you factor in things like chemistry.
 

bucsrule8872

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I mean to me this like 2010.

You have an Eric Bledsoe..........really good player.

John Wall wants to come.

You aren't going to tell Wall hmm yeah well we already have Bledsoe so no thanks.

You aren't going to tell Kofi, yeah we are kinda crowded at that position. I think you find room for a guy like him.
Or maybe it’s like having Bledsoe (Tshiebwe) and waiting on Wall (Duren) instead of taking a guy that doesn’t fit as well with Bledsoe?

I’m just looking for answers and trying to make sense instead of just calling Cal an idiot.
 

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Or maybe it’s like having Bledsoe (Tshiebwe) and waiting on Wall (Duren) instead of taking a guy that doesn’t fit as well with Bledsoe?

I’m just looking for answers and trying to make sense instead of just calling Cal an idiot.
Cal has made several recruiting mistakes in the past.Going all in on Bolden when the better player wanted an offer and ending up going to Texas.Quade because he thought it would get him Bamba.It's not like he's perfect so maybe it's just that he making a mistake?
 
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Cal has made several recruiting mistakes in the past.Going all in on Bolden when the better player wanted an offer and ending up going to Texas.Quade because he thought it would get him Bamba.It's not like he's perfect so maybe it's just that he making a mistake?
Taking Kevin Knox over Cam Johnson… 🤦🏿‍♀️
 
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bucsrule8872

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Cal has made several recruiting mistakes in the past.Going all in on Bolden when the better player wanted an offer and ending up going to Texas.Quade because he thought it would get him Bamba.It's not like he's perfect so maybe it's just that he making a mistake?
Could just be a mistake. If so, that’s fine.

Coaches have to make those judgements all the time.

We as fans have to live with it.

And we don’t know and may never know if this is the right move or not.

Right now, it’s just a bunch of us fans with no inside info trying to make sense of this decision.

If it is plain and simply Cal passed on an All-American, it’s a bonehead move.

For some reason, I think there is more to it than that.
 

Kingslayer07

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Everybody on last year's team gets bashed unfairly.

The point is nobody is proven with this many new circumstances. It's not even a guarantee Kofi will be any good for Illinois with all the guards they lost and his coaches gone.
Illinois still has a lot of good players on their roster. Surprisingly..
 

Kingslayer07

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I didn't watch all his games so I can't speak for everything but from what I saw he played some of both.The games I watched when he was a freshman he seemed the focus of the offense.Last season it just seemed Culver was a better player in every way and Huggins went with him over Oscar.I didn't think Oscar was bad but just IMO not as engaged in the game.He did also look overweight and I've heard he's in much better shape now so that could have been a big part of the problem.He was foul prone both seasons so I hope he can work on that,
If you watch highlights from freshman year then last year it's quite obvious that he put on a little weight and wasn't quite as explosive! Hope Cal can bring the fresh phenom back.
 

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Well Kofi is a crappy ft shooter. You play hack a shack ball we are deep enough that is if big O was to get into foul trouble. If we doing have the bulk I would have Collins pull him away from the floor defensively as is a poor perimeter defender. I would pick and roll him to death. If you work a man that big hard defensively fatigue will start to slow him down. Could even run 6ft9 Toppin at him. Not saying we couldn't use a little.more depth inside jus saying it's not the end of the world if we don't add another big. Now who to say we don't see vast improvement out of a few guys. Coach O is not jus a great recruiter but also a good big man's coach.
Well I hope you are right. Fingers crossed. Just wish we didn’t have to hope and cross fingers. Just add another 5 and we good.
 
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Or maybe it’s like having Bledsoe (Tshiebwe) and waiting on Wall (Duren) instead of taking a guy that doesn’t fit as well with Bledsoe?

I’m just looking for answers and trying to make sense instead of just calling Cal an idiot.

It's certainly possible. Maybe Cal is really confident in getting Duren. Although my thinking with all of this has been don't put all your eggs in one basket. If Kofi is ready to commit and Duren is waiting, take him because you really don't know about Duren.

Or why not just get both. I think we have room on the roster for that.

Either way I mean Cal has been doing this for decades. It doesn't seem like Cal to not take a player the caliber of him so I'm sure he has a logical reasoning behind it.
 
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Cal has made several recruiting mistakes in the past.Going all in on Bolden when the better player wanted an offer and ending up going to Texas.Quade because he thought it would get him Bamba.It's not like he's perfect so maybe it's just that he making a mistake?

There's always going to be misses in recruiting but I think the difference between that and what we have here is this is a proven college basketball player. We have two years of data pretty much proving that Cockburn is a good player. He's more proven in comparison to a HS recruit.
 
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Cochburn still has UK listed. IDK what rumors are true or not. Maybe Cal has put all his chips on Duren. Maybe Cal was never interested in Cockburn, kinda sounds like it.
 
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Cochburn still has UK listed. IDK what rumors are true or not. Maybe Cal has put all his chips on Duren. Maybe Cal was never interested in Cockburn, kinda sounds like it.

Exactly. That's why with all of this I'd just wait until Friday. He still has us listed. It seems very unlikely he's picking us but who knows what reports out there are true and which are false.
 

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There was mutual interest. Though I have no direct connection here - I do know that the coaching community and many players believed this was happening as recently as a couple days ago. In fact, some decisions were made based on this presumption.
I am out of the country, but I am guessing there is a story behind this one. There usually is.
 

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There's always going to be misses in recruiting but I think the difference between that and what we have here is this is a proven college basketball player. We have two years of data pretty much proving that Cockburn is a good player. He's more proven in comparison to a HS recruit.
Yes I agree, if Kofi is ready and willing to come to Kentucky I think it’s shortsighted to not sign him, regardless of Duran. Seems like Coach Cal has had issues with this in the past. A real head scratcher. It just doesn’t seem like I’ve heard any positive talk about Duran. Looks like we’re going to miss out on both and once again be one player away from having a title contender team.
 
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There was mutual interest. Though I have no direct connection here - I do know that the coaching community and many players believed this was happening as recently as a couple days ago. In fact, some decisions were made based on this presumption.
I am out of the country, but I am guessing there is a story behind this one. There usually is.
I'd sure like to know this one. Must be a doozy
 

track42

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If we just plain missed on him it's sure not a good look for Coaches O and Chin.2 coaches from his old school and can't even get him?Weak.
 
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I didn't say that.It's just that you would think 2 coaches who knew him so well could have convinced him to come.Especially when Kofi said O was the reason he went to Illinois.
Cant believe everything in the media.
 

jessieshorts8

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I didn't say that.It's just that you would think 2 coaches who knew him so well could have convinced him to come.Especially when Kofi said O was the reason he went to Illinois.
It might have just been a massive troll job by Kofi.Saying that about Orlando and putting out info he was UK bound.Our brilliant insiders could have bought into it.
 
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ukwildcat2004

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There was mutual interest. Though I have no direct connection here - I do know that the coaching community and many players believed this was happening as recently as a couple days ago. In fact, some decisions were made based on this presumption.
I am out of the country, but I am guessing there is a story behind this one. There usually is.

We are going to need you to comeback and find this story out. Cut your trip short please. haha.😁
 

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I need someone to explain all this bad info from insiders. I was told it was Joel Justus leaking bad info in the past but he's no longer here.
 

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I need someone to explain all this bad info from insiders. I was told it was Joel Justus leaking bad info in the past but he's no longer here.
It seems like they just suck.They make it seem like a guarantee and when he picks elsewhere say he changed his mind at the last minutes.All these guys can't be doing this lol.It's frustrating to hear this stuff and get your hopes up and end up in a huge letdown.It took long enough but I've finally learned my lesson.
 
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Every player in the country is not coming to Kentucky. Reading this board you would think they are. There are only 13 scholarships, so the couldn't all come here even if they wanted to. You have to use common sense. Most of these so called insiders don't know anymore than the ordinary fan, and post all these players are coming here just so they look important and to get likes on their timeline.
 
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Are you suggesting maybe, just maybe, it's not over yet?

 

TheAnonymous13

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Are you suggesting maybe, just maybe, it's not over yet?
No. I’m traveling, so I haven’t paid much attention or spoken with anyone. I was surprised to hear it turned, as it sounded quite solid - and it was a consensus opinion among those I know.
But I was asking sincerely, rather than as a coy implication. If the folks on the ground says he isn’t going to UK, they are in a better position to know than me. . . At least at the moment.