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With each loss, anyone saying anything other than how awful Pope is gets mocked and ridiculed with increasing intensity. I know we are all frustrated with Pope (including me) but why can’t people just be kind to your fellow fans? Particularly, looking through the threads and seeing how others are getting treated is actually embarrassing. Mind you, I’m not defending posters that ridicule others for being anti-Pope — I’m defending people who follow every reasonable rule of engagement. I’m asking my friends who have had it up to here with Pope to just please be kind to your neighbor. Debate peacefully and kindly, y’all. Or don’t I guess.
Sadly, most of it is 4 or 5 guys with an army of accounts and zero respect for anything.
 

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I encourage everyone to visit other sports message boards and see how their fans deal with terrible coaches/bad seasons. They are often times worse than we are. Don't believe me? Go check out Pale Hose Sox or any number of message boards for franchises that currently are garbage. This thread shows how myopic BBN actually is when it comes to attempting to correct online behavior.

This message board would be infinitely "kind" if Pope actually did the job he was paid to do: which is to win basketball games.

When the focus of the message board becomes anything else, you know you're dealing with a real issue.
 
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How would you know since you and you’re toddler gang are nowhere to be found when we win? Oh you just admitted that you’re lurking and hiding? smh
Of course the first “attack” in this thread is Popes best slurper. Just the thought that someone might say something bad about him triggered him. I saw someone in this thread say we should ask questions so I’ll take a shot, what is it about being 1 game away both years from playing on Wednesday of the SEC tournament makes you worship Pope so much?
 

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With each loss, anyone saying anything other than how awful Pope is gets mocked and ridiculed with increasing intensity. I know we are all frustrated with Pope (including me) but why can’t people just be kind to your fellow fans? Particularly, looking through the threads and seeing how others are getting treated is actually embarrassing. Mind you, I’m not defending posters that ridicule others for being anti-Pope — I’m defending people who follow every reasonable rule of engagement. I’m asking my friends who have had it up to here with Pope to just please be kind to your neighbor. Debate peacefully and kindly, y’all. Or don’t I guess.
That is one reason I give a loss time to marinate rather than fly off the handle.
Also that is one reason I do not go back and forth with posters. I give my opinion and move on. I am not going to convince anyone to change their mind.
 
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When you’re dealing with trolls who only come here to drive nails into the brains of real fans, it’s impossible to be nice. It’s done intentionally, and they are sitting in their lonely apartments having orgasms every time they drive a thread past two pages or illicit an angry response. It’s really ****** up. No way to defend it. It’s all they have.
 

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That is one reason I give a loss time to marinate rather than fly off the handle.
Also that is one reason I do not go back and forth with posters. I give my opinion and move on. I am not going to convince anyone to change their mind.
Same
 

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Have you ever been to that old restaurant Dicks Last Resort? I don’t know if they are still around anymore, but they start off by putting a paper hat on your head with an insult “this guy has a small peepee!” Or whatever and then the servers are really rude and roast you the whole time. People got a kick out of it and I always enjoyed it even though the food was pretty average. Anyway, as someone that has been on some variation of catspause since 2001 (wow) that’s really how you have to view this place. Like a 24/7 roast. I actually don’t think it’s possible for me to be offended on here even if I tried, because I just don’t take it that seriously. You can’t really, for most it’s just an escape. I saw the UK4Life guy mentioned earlier. He was posting a week ago or so calling other people idiots so I asked him what he does for a living. I don’t actually care what he does for a living, it’s just a pro move MB trick I’ve learned over the years that makes the poster stop and slightly snap back into reality and calms them down, like smoke on a bee. In a shocking twist he actually answered and said he was a nurse. You know what that guy deals with? **** hours, obnoxious patients, ahole doctors, stress etc. Go ahead and call people idiots my man! Dude probably needs the release! Also, because Ive been on these things for so long, I’m extremely good at instantly recognizing trolls and my ignore list is probably 50 posters deep, I will say that is key for my enjoyment and something that’s probably more unique to me.

But, let’s get something straight, Kentucky fans are not abnormal. I live in Columbus, surrounded by insane OSU fans unfortunately. They (some still do) wanted Ryan Day fired a couple years ago because he finished the season ranked #5! And he’s one of them! They are psychotic. But so are Eagles fans, Yankees fans, Cowboys fans, Alabama fans, etc etc. We’re all nuts, let’s not be too hard on the fan base, and let’s get back to everybody hating us instead of us all annoyed and hating each other.
 

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It’s more about a principle. Let’s all be kind. I don’t know every single person’s full post history and you can certainly find posts from me, from you, or most anyone else that aren’t perfect. Especially when your opinion is held by 99% of the posters, if y’all can’t just be reasonable and kind to the people who disagree with that majority opinion, you’ll 1.) not have an interlocutor to have debate with, 2.) not get your opinions questioned to strengthen your own arguments, 3.) eventually discourage everyone from posting who doesn’t hold to the “groupthink.” I actually enjoy the company of this board and I want everyone to be able to raise their opinions here, as long as they aren’t disgraceful or morally impermissible. If you agree, we can all get along enough to not get along peacefully. 👍
Dude, I was attacked over and over for not being a Cal hater even though I said it was time for Cal to go from the time I started posting here.

I’m sure you can find many dumb things I’ve posted. But you won’t find one from me attacking someone personally.
 
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Dude, I was attacked over and over for not being a Cal hater even though I said it was time for Cal to go from the time I started posting here.

I’m sure you can find many dumb things I’ve posted. But you won’t find one from me attacking someone personally.
I agree. And that's why we get along so good, even though we often disagree. I appreciate that you stand on what you believe. I'm also not a Cal hater --- but he doesn't align with some of my basketball preferences. I still love the enigmatic personality and attitude of Coach Calipari to this day.
 

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I encourage everyone to visit other sports message boards and see how their fans deal with terrible coaches/bad seasons. They are often times worse than we are. Don't believe me? Go check out Pale Hose Sox or any number of message boards for franchises that currently are garbage. This thread shows how myopic BBN actually is when it comes to attempting to correct online behavior.

This message board would be infinitely "kind" if Pope actually did the job he was paid to do: which is to win basketball games.

When the focus of the message board becomes anything else, you know you're dealing with a real issue.
Ryan Day has been enormously successful at OSU. When they lost to UM a couple of years ago he had to get police protection at his house. I think of that when people mention our fans may be hurting recruiting. OSU is doing better than fine.
 

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With each loss, anyone saying anything other than how awful Pope is gets mocked and ridiculed with increasing intensity. I know we are all frustrated with Pope (including me) but why can’t people just be kind to your fellow fans? Particularly, looking through the threads and seeing how others are getting treated is actually embarrassing. Mind you, I’m not defending posters that ridicule others for being anti-Pope — I’m defending people who follow every reasonable rule of engagement. I’m asking my friends who have had it up to here with Pope to just please be kind to your neighbor. Debate peacefully and kindly, y’all. Or don’t I guess.
Both sides of the coin do it. The Pope Pumpers started it and I finished it. Should I have made that thread? Some say yes, some say no. I have been attacked by UKCowboys and Nitro for not being a UK fan because I don't think Pope deserves a third year. They have harassed and also done that to others.

So I called out their hypocrisy and behavior for accountability. The thread wasn't about them disagreeing with me, but the fact that we are not Pope fans and want him gone, therefore, somehow we are not Uk fans. Yet they complain the same way most of us do.

There are only 2 rules. 1. Love God. 2 Love your neighbor.

It isn't fair to say that only the ones who want Pope gone have done this. Both sides of the coin are guilty of it.
 
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Both sides of the coin do it. The Pope Pumpers started it and I finished it. Should I have made that thread? Some say yes, some say no. I have been attacked by UKCowboys and Nitro for not being a UK fan because I don't think Pope deserves a third year. They have harassed and also done that to others.

So I called out their hypocrisy and behavior for accountability. The thread wasn't about them disagreeing with me, but the fact that we are not Pope fans and want him gone, therefore, somehow we are not Uk fans. Yet they complain the same way most of us do.

There are only 2 rules. 1. Love God. 2 Love your neighbor.

It isn't fair to say that only the ones who want Pope gone have done this. Both sides of the coin are guilty of it.
I think you're right about that. Both sides are guilty of it. Hopefully the post would make some of us question whether that's the way to do it. Nothing like a ruthless debate. Each side declaring the other enemies of the program, however, is unnecessary.
 

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A thread once asked who is UK's main rival. When I said Louisville, the OP called me an idiot and a moron. So the OP asked a question and chose to act like a child. I don't know why that happens or why on the old board posters got weirdly personal about Matt Jones or would blame his radio show for UK losses. I don't know why Bronny James was constantly called a thug on Rafters when he's never been in trouble and none of us knew much about him. Easy to say "that's the internet" when those are choices but...that's the internet and people choose to be like that. I've always believed if you constantly act like a jerk online, your real life probably isn't going well and if you're saying ridiculous things on social media, it's because you know your significant other would slap you across the back of the head if you acted that same way around her or him.

Regardless, I never understood getting bogged down in coaching debates. Last year was fun at times and this year hasn't worked. If we're bounced in the first weekend and next year is similar results, there'll probably be a coaching search. If we claw to another Sweet 16 and this time next year we've got say, 6-8 losses, he's probably getting a year four. Everything else is just noise.
 
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I think you're right about that. Both sides are guilty of it. Hopefully the post would make some of us question whether that's the way to do it. Nothing like a ruthless debate. Each side declaring the other enemies of the program, however, is unnecessary.
Attack the ideas. Not the person. That's how debates are supposed to be. Both sides are valid in their opinions if Pope should or should not get a 3rd year. The problem was when someone attacks someone's character and consistently call them not a true UK fan. That doesn't help move the conversation. Insults are a result of people with no argument.

I agree with you, its unnecessry.
 

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Have you ever been to that old restaurant Dicks Last Resort? I don’t know if they are still around anymore, but they start off by putting a paper hat on your head with an insult “this guy has a small peepee!” Or whatever and then the servers are really rude and roast you the whole time. People got a kick out of it and I always enjoyed it even though the food was pretty average. Anyway, as someone that has been on some variation of catspause since 2001 (wow) that’s really how you have to view this place. Like a 24/7 roast. I actually don’t think it’s possible for me to be offended on here even if I tried, because I just don’t take it that seriously. You can’t really, for most it’s just an escape. I saw the UK4Life guy mentioned earlier. He was posting a week ago or so calling other people idiots so I asked him what he does for a living. I don’t actually care what he does for a living, it’s just a pro move MB trick I’ve learned over the years that makes the poster stop and slightly snap back into reality and calms them down, like smoke on a bee. In a shocking twist he actually answered and said he was a nurse. You know what that guy deals with? **** hours, obnoxious patients, ahole doctors, stress etc. Go ahead and call people idiots my man! Dude probably needs the release! Also, because Ive been on these things for so long, I’m extremely good at instantly recognizing trolls and my ignore list is probably 50 posters deep, I will say that is key for my enjoyment and something that’s probably more unique to me.

But, let’s get something straight, Kentucky fans are not abnormal. I live in Columbus, surrounded by insane OSU fans unfortunately. They (some still do) wanted Ryan Day fired a couple years ago because he finished the season ranked #5! And he’s one of them! They are psychotic. But so are Eagles fans, Yankees fans, Cowboys fans, Alabama fans, etc etc. We’re all nuts, let’s not be too hard on the fan base, and let’s get back to everybody hating us instead of us all annoyed and hating each other.
I agree that most of the venom posted here is not even because of Pope, it's because of other things in life. That makes it even more disgraceful to go after Pope because a person can't pay their bills, the barber accidently cut off their mullet while they are asleep, their Pot dealer quit, they are a hopeless gambler that's deep in the hole, etc.
 
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Steven Covey once said “seek first to understand, then to be understood.” I’d say if you genuinely wanted to know the rationale of someone who “supports Pope”, you could ask — the answers will range depending on who you ask, but the good news is it will not cause you harm to hear it. You may find someone actually is a troll —- there probably are some of those. You may also find others are grounded in reason and that might make debating with those people even more enjoyable.
Good lord...I was right with you until you started quoting some educational "guru". His word garble ranks right up there with Pope. I've lost too many hours of my life in PD days centered around his teachings. Ugh.

Me thinks some people take this stuff too personal or too serious. This stuff being the interactions on here. No matter how much of a troll (overused) or ninnyhammer (underused) I think someone is, I never put on ignore. I certainly don't put anyone on ignore that disagrees with my line of thinking. Why? Hell, if I wanted that I'd go join a cult or a militia. Differing opinions are healthy. If someone calls you a name and it bothers you, that's a you thing. Should they resort to name calling? Of course not. But why place value in the words of someone who has no other tools in their toolbox than to resort to the name calling?
 
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Good lord...I was right with you until you started quoting some educational "guru". His word garble ranks right up there with Pope. I've lost too many hours of my life in PD days centered around his teachings. Ugh.

Me thinks some people take this stuff too personal or too serious. This stuff being the interactions on here. No matter how much of a troll (overused) or ninnyhammer (underused) I think someone is, I never put on ignore. I certainly don't put anyone on ignore that disagrees with my line of thinking. Why? Hell, if I wanted that I'd go join a cult or a militia. Differing opinions are healthy. If someone calls you a name and it bothers you, that's a you thing. Should they resort to name calling? Of course not. But why place value in the words of someone who has no other tools in their toolbox than to resort to the name calling?
Despite your disapproval of Covey, I echo the same sentiments. Good post.
 
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I rarely posted on this forum during the last few years of Cal's tenure. It was so toxic and I had enough going on in my life that I didn't need more of that kind of crap. I had high hopes that with a new coach we could see a change in tone. Unfortunately, due to our current record that isn't the case.

You are correct. The personal attacks do come from those who have nothing of substance to argue. That is why I may take another break from the board if things don't get better. For now, I am looking forward to UK being back on top of the basketball world. It can't come soon enough for me!
Don't take it so serious. I'll never understand those that get honestly and seriously bothered by the behavior of someone on a message board. Consider the source, cultivate the good (there's a lot of it on here) and move on.
 

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Idiot I think you’ve said before you’ve never been on this board until very recently. Again, the board has posters, guys, that have been here 20+ years. Not sure you realize this but this board has been established for decades with many same posters. Sometimes conversations have different moving parts that you’re only seeing the surface. Guys like Nitro have been here under names like Cardsstink and many more. LED belly is a troll that argues both positions back and forth to start arguments. A lot of what you think you’re seeing, sometimes isn’t what’s going on. Led also has many handles and argues with HIMSELF back and forth lol.

A lot of us here go back to the wildcatchat days, I was in high school then, 2002. I just bring this up to say I’ve seen you interject into things that I could see you weren’t aware of why the conversation was taking place. I’m just saying there is so much under the surface that happens here and someone new isn’t going to get it. Also, Rafters is not a Facebook mom place. Mostly what you have here are hardened fans that aren’t going to be passive in losing. We don’t wish around, this was a place that winning was always mandatory so I don’t think you know this but you’ll never turn the tide of that. A hire like this, it’s not going to be a “let’s wait it out” rafters philosophy. It’s just not how this place operates. And it really shouldn’t be, either. There is a coach click here that’s always been back to the LOD days on the board. Time and time again they don’t care about wins and losses or program prestige. Again, these conversations with that minority have taken place decades. These conversations didn’t just start.
I feel like if we watched the door together, we have a special bond.

 
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Despite your disapproval of Covey, I echo the same sentiments. Good post.
I disapprove of all those types of "educational experts". Zero depth and just in it to make a crap ton of money selling their latest gimmick. If they were truly in it for the reasons they spout, their resources and lectures would be free and they wouldn't charge public schools thousands upon thousands of dollars for appearances and book deals. They are the scourge of public education, IMHO.
 

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Have you ever been to that old restaurant Dicks Last Resort? I don’t know if they are still around anymore, but they start off by putting a paper hat on your head with an insult “this guy has a small peepee!” Or whatever and then the servers are really rude and roast you the whole time. People got a kick out of it and I always enjoyed it even though the food was pretty average. Anyway, as someone that has been on some variation of catspause since 2001 (wow) that’s really how you have to view this place. Like a 24/7 roast. I actually don’t think it’s possible for me to be offended on here even if I tried, because I just don’t take it that seriously. You can’t really, for most it’s just an escape. I saw the UK4Life guy mentioned earlier. He was posting a week ago or so calling other people idiots so I asked him what he does for a living. I don’t actually care what he does for a living, it’s just a pro move MB trick I’ve learned over the years that makes the poster stop and slightly snap back into reality and calms them down, like smoke on a bee. In a shocking twist he actually answered and said he was a nurse. You know what that guy deals with? **** hours, obnoxious patients, ahole doctors, stress etc. Go ahead and call people idiots my man! Dude probably needs the release! Also, because Ive been on these things for so long, I’m extremely good at instantly recognizing trolls and my ignore list is probably 50 posters deep, I will say that is key for my enjoyment and something that’s probably more unique to me.

But, let’s get something straight, Kentucky fans are not abnormal. I live in Columbus, surrounded by insane OSU fans unfortunately. They (some still do) wanted Ryan Day fired a couple years ago because he finished the season ranked #5! And he’s one of them! They are psychotic. But so are Eagles fans, Yankees fans, Cowboys fans, Alabama fans, etc etc. We’re all nuts, let’s not be too hard on the fan base, and let’s get back to everybody hating us instead of us all annoyed and hating each other.
Man I really don’t get it. It’s like people haven’t interacted with other fanbases. Actually, Kentucky has a tame fanbase compared to a lot of other programs. Tennessee and Auburn? They are absolutely insane. Alabama fans? LSU? Texas? I really don’t think a lot of people venture past Kentucky fans. Growing up in Tennessee, this fan base is easy street compared. I mean some of those fans RIOTED when they didn’t like a hire. Recycle AD’s because of the fans. Kentucky allowed Mitch Barnhart to be employed a quarter of a century. It’s all the proof you need that UK fans are actually quite tame compared.
 

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I agree that most of the venom posted here is not even because of Pope, it's because of other things in life. That makes it even more disgraceful to go after Pope because a person can't pay their bills, the barber accidently cut off their mullet while they are asleep, their Pot dealer quit, they are a hopeless gambler that's deep in the hole, etc.

Out of curiosity, what do you do for a living? If you’re too embarrassed to say that’s ok.
 

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Ryan Day has been enormously successful at OSU. When they lost to UM a couple of years ago he had to get police protection at his house. I think of that when people mention our fans may be hurting recruiting. OSU is doing better than fine.
Uk fans would never.
 

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Idiot, you tried bro but if you’re reading through your thread I think you can see what a big problem is on this board. Some people have maturity issues and possible mental issues that post on here. lol
The Pope's Pumpers thread baiting thread didn't bother you one bit. None of the attacks on Pope bother you because you agree with them. Go ahead and ban me. Everybody knows exactly who you are and the fallout will be fun.
 

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I think his post was a projection of his own life.
The Pope bashers absolutely cannot stand it when their real motives are uncovered. Johhnie said it and he can't unsay it.

a man in a suit and tie is sitting on a couch eating popcorn and drinking a beer
 

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I’m proud of the board. Monday is replying to me again. Yall must of slowed down traffic for him lately. He’s desperate
 
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The Pope's Pumpers thread baiting thread didn't bother you one bit. None of the attacks on Pope bother you because you agree with them. Go ahead and ban me. Everybody knows exactly who you are and the fallout will be fun.
Smh. Getting yourself all worked up over nothing. You got to much anger and anxiety issues or something I’m a nobody on this board. Staying mad and angry all the time ain’t healthy bro seriously.
 
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I once knew a man so powerful on the internet that he even found a wife from overseas on it. Flew her over here like a eBay package. Lost his whole life due to this here internet. Don’t underestimate it
 

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I think his post was a projection of his own life.

edit: I knew you didn’t have me on ignore Monday. You just gave up. I love you too. I actually found someone I hate more than you. I never had real hate for you.

If you read my earlier post the joke went over his head (naturally). Also I dont remember our interaction but I’m sure it was great my big blue brother. One thing on the internet I’ve found is people have a really hard time not getting the last word in. But it’s actually much more effective to say a good line and then just stop responding. Imagine two guys arguing with each other in real life, and then one guy says a good line or rebuttal and then walks away confidently or smirking while the other guy all red in the face is shouting back. The guy still shouting looks like an idiot most of the time. That’s why it’s nice to do that on the internet, say your piece and then confidently walk away while the other guy is just rambling on to himself. No need for an emoji or anything.