Kermit got Ole Miss playing hard and playing

[coach66]

Well. Max effort

 

[msstate7]

Mixing up defenses too instead of running the Peter sirmon man-to-man we love so much

 

[coach66]

If we don’t match their effort they will kick

Our ***.

 

[Bulldogg31]

MSU grad? Good thing we didn’t hire him I guess?

 

[Lettucexxxx]

Our ***.

Are we capable of matching the intensity?

Everyone knows we are more talented....but as we have all painfully witnessed during the Howland era....talent doesn’t equate to winning basketball. Winning basketball equates to winning basketball.

Winning Basketball=Hustle, Heart, Head and Health.

I cant answer to why we can’t get max effort. I used to think it was Howland....but it’s apparent that the lack of leadership and unwillingness to work for 4 quarters (2 halfs)....no one holding anyone accountable....that’s on these players. Howland doesn’t have the depth to bench a player for not hustling.....so it will continue until someone steps up in the locker room or at practice.

Ive never seen a group of players who enjoy taking their collected “feet off the gas” as much as this group. We 17ing sandbag until it’s too late.

I can take a loss but it’s hard rooting for this team. Every bit of body language and demeanor on the floor is acidic and frumpy.....they don’t look like they enjoy it at all.

I don’t know what to make of it.

 

[JungRebel]

Huge game for both teams this weekend.

 

[notoriousD_O_G]

They are going to whip our ***

 

[Dawg1976]

I watched a little bit. Looked a lot better than our team. Oh well......

 

[She Mate Me]

It's like the SC game is the only game that exists for some of you.

We shall see.

 

[Leeshouldveflanked]

MSU grad? Good thing we didn’t hire him I guess?

He was the hot commodity college coach in the early 90’s before he was hit with a 2 year show cause for NCAA violations..Texas A&M barely escaped the Death Penalty..I think we were afraid to hire him after Stansbury to not put up a red flag.

 

[JungRebel]

To be fair, he hadn't set the world on fire at MTSU at the time, and wasnt being looked at by any big program. Of course, that didnt mean yall had to hire of all people Rick 17n Ray.

 

[MSUDC11]

To be fair, he hadn't set the world on fire at MTSU at the time, and wasnt being looked at by any big program. Of course, that didnt mean yall had to hire of all people Rick 17n Ray.

Kermit would’ve been considered an underwhelming hire by our fans at the time, but still wouldn’t have been nearly the WTF hire that Rick Ray was. There was literally not a single MSU fan out there who had even heard of Ray until the day he was hired.

That coaching search was an absolute disaster, and the first time I began to realize how clueless Stricklin was about certain things.

 

[patdog]

We really 17ed up not hiring him when we "resigned" Stans. I hate he's at UMiss. We've kind of always had the dominant team in the state for most of the last 30 years, but we've got some serious competition now.

 

[L4Dawg]

He was the hot commodity college coach in the early 90’s before he was hit with a 2 year show cause for NCAA violations..Texas A&M barely escaped the Death Penalty..I think we were afraid to hire him after Stansbury to not put up a red flag.

That's exactly why we didn't hire him.

 

[gymdawg.sixpack]

Yall still riding the company line that Howland is a great coach?

 

[She Mate Me]

I hope Ray sends Striklin a nice Christmas gift every year. He has now been an overpaid, highly unsuccessful D1 head coach for 8 years because of ole Scottie.

SEMO appears to have the worst team in his tenure this season. Surprised?

 

[Bulldogg31]

Kermit would’ve been considered an underwhelming hire by our fans at the time, but still wouldn’t have been nearly the WTF hire that Rick Ray was. There was literally not a single MSU fan out there who had even heard of Ray until the day he was hired.

That coaching search was an absolute disaster, and the first time I began to realize how clueless Stricklin was about certain things.

I have many Clemson friends who still couldn’t tell you who Rick Ray is,

 

[She Mate Me]

Yall still riding the company line that Howland is a great coach?

You're relentlessly consistent. I'll give you that.

We've gotten better every year he's been here, but when we're not next year you'll be sure to let us know all about it. Hopefully we'll fire his sorry *** so we can have the consistent success UCLA has had since they moved on from Howland the Horrific.

 

[Lettucexxxx]

We are a team of role players...meaning, they all have 1 thing they do GREAT.
We need more versatility.

 

[Msubulldogfan1]

We lack mental toughness. That’s what it takes to compete at a high level game in and game out. UT has a bunch of it.

 

[Dawgcap]

Yeah we are 17d. I wonder what the meltdown will be Saturday night if we lose.

 

[G-Dawg]

Yall still riding the company line that Howland is a great coach?

Not me. I gave him two seasons and not impressed at all. He's a great recruiter. This isn't a popular take, but Rick Ray's guys played harder and better defensively than Howland's teams do. Rick Ray just didn't have ANY talent and wasn't able/willing to recruit any.

 

[BossDawg78]

We really 17ed up not hiring him when we "resigned" Stans. I hate he's at UMiss. We've kind of always had the dominant team in the state for most of the last 30 years, but we've got some serious competition now.

You have to really laugh at the way things have turned out, because only at State would a scenario like this play out. No other athletic department consistently pisses away momentum quite like Dear Ol' State.

 

[gymdawg.sixpack]

1 comment on somebody else's thread is relentlessly consistent? Yea sorry for having an opinion

 

[dickiedawg]

There was literally not a single MSU fan out there who had even heard of Ray until the day he was hired.

Ray's hire was announced on April 1. That cruel prank lasted 3 years.

 

[Shmuley]

Three. Long. Years.

 

[engie]

We lack mental toughness. That’s what it takes to compete at a high level game in and game out. UT has a bunch of it.

Yeah I disagree. Now is the perfect learning time for these things to happen.

It’s Deja Vu to the LSU baseball series freak out in 2013 and the midweek shitburger freak out with Vandy on deck in 2016. It’s obvious on the court that we’ve got a very good team that can be elite on any given night. That still has to show up to win however.

We dropped 1 game. We looked like **** doing it. Turn the page. It doesn’t mean or define anything going forward and anyone that constantly applies single basketball and baseball games/series to the big picture is easily dismissed as someone without a clue. Let’s just hope our team doesn’t mimic our fanbase lest we be spineless and f’d.

Cowering to a guy that never made an ncaa tourney in Murfreesboro in a decade until after he was spurned for Rick Ray. Then he went on a run. And it might not seem like it, but Kermit inherited the 4th most floor-experienced team in the SEC per Kenpom. I think people, myself included, got a false sense of what that team was while playing under a lame duck and then interim coach last season. That said, he’s got to split votes with Rick Barnes for SEC COY at this point in the season. He’s been great for sure.

I look forward to the opportunity to put both ships back in the preferred direction on Saturday. No excuse not to get it done.

 

[paindonthurt_]

Yep, leadership. We don’t have a leader. It should be Q, but its not.

 

[maroonmania]

That's exactly why we didn't hire him.

Unfortunately for us, OM has no similar reservations about hiring a guy who has had run ins with the NCAA. KD is going to do VERY well in Oxford.

 

[She Mate Me]

1 comment on somebody else's thread is relentlessly consistent? Yea sorry for having an opinion

Do I need to pull up your posts on Howland over the last many many months. You are consistent, and wrong.

 

[Junction John]

I don't think it's a huge game for Ole Miss at all. They're already overachieving, at least from most people's expectations going into the season. They're 2-0, which is shocking considering who they beat. All the pressure is on 0-1 State at this point.

Which is what scares me about this game.

 

[She Mate Me]

I don't think it's a huge game for Ole Miss at all. They're already overachieving, at least from most people's expectations going into the season. They're 2-0, which is shocking considering who they beat. All the pressure is on 0-1 State at this point.

Which is what scares me about this game.

Gotta agree with you. I think they show up and show out. If not they will have put themselves in a rather large hole to open the SEC.

 

[gymdawg.sixpack]

Yes because ive said very little this yr. Lets see em. Make sure you include all my positive stuff on the team too....like where i was the ONLY one saying this team would be a good 3pt shooting team come sec play (back in nov) when yall were freakin out over our inability to hit 3s. But hey what do i know....turns out Q isnt a very good leader. Turns out Howland isnt a very good floor coach. Or would you like to wair til next yr for more of a sample size?

 

[She Mate Me]

Yes because ive said very little this yr. Lets see em. Make sure you include all my positive stuff on the team too....like where i was the ONLY one saying this team would be a good 3pt shooting team come sec play (back in nov) when yall were freakin out over our inability to hit 3s. But hey what do i know....turns out Q isnt a very good leader. Turns out Howland isnt a very good floor coach. Or would you like to wair til next yr for more of a sample size?

My issue is your consistent sniping about Howland. You do this with a complete disregard for the fact that he has been successful as a HC literally everywhere he's been a HC.

Are we not SIGNIFICANTLY better than the program he inherited 4 years ago? Where is the intellectual honesty in your criticisms of him?

 

[mrbinsdog]

We're just letting OM groom KD until we hire him

Howland will give us another 4-5 good years, then retire.
We'll call Kermit, if we want him, and he will sprint over to Starkville, leaving the Webels high and dry once again

 

[patdog]

For the most part, our approach has been working better than theirs has for the last decade.

 

[Shamoan]

Howland's strength is recruiting, not coaching.

 

[She Mate Me]

Howland's strength is recruiting, not coaching.

I don't give a **** what most MSU fans perceive as his strengths and weaknesses because it's obvious he knows more Bball than all of us. I just want him to win games and get us to NCAA tourneys. If he does that he's a success at MSU despite the bitching and pontificating of those who would rather make a point than support a winner.

 

[Shamoan]

Rick ray knows more than all of us about basketball too.