Keon Brooks

LineSkiCat14

Heisman
Aug 5, 2015
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Yes because Wisky doesn't have Cal getting kids ready nor the spotlight. Herro is gone but boy would I be stoked if he wasn't .Did you hear what he said after the game ? I know I need to listen to Cal as he will get me to the next level or some such thing . It was pretty obvious Herro would jump thru a wall if Cal said so as he knows Cal holds to key to him being a 1st rounder .

Herro's 20 year NBA career is very cloudy. He doesn't quite have the athelticism that others can latch on to. Where as some of these guys can't take the risk to their bodies of coming back.. Herro can. His strong suites are shooting, mental toughness and IQ. These things will be around longer than a standing vertical or lateral quickness.

But Herro seems like a guy that might be better served to come back, hone his game, and get some guaranteed money, on the off-chance that he just can't quite hack it in the NBA for a full career.
 

Wall2Boogie

Heisman
Jan 28, 2010
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Yes because Wisky doesn't have Cal getting kids ready nor the spotlight. Herro is gone but boy would I be stoked if he wasn't .Did you hear what he said after the game ? I know I need to listen to Cal as he will get me to the next level or some such thing . It was pretty obvious Herro would jump thru a wall if Cal said so as he knows Cal holds to key to him being a 1st rounder .
No **** he would run through a wall for him. If you’re were making me a millionaire do what I love I would also. Kids come here for that, but let’s remember not everyone is ready to make that jump after a few short months. As lineski pointed out, there are other factors that go into the decision.
 
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caneintally

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Oct 1, 2002
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No **** he would run through a wall for him. If you’re were making me a millionaire do what I love I would also. Kids come here for that, but let’s remember not everyone is ready to make that jump after a few short months. As lineski pointed out, there are other factors that go into the decision.
Man I hope you are right but I just don't see it with how Herro has blown up. He will be a top 25ish pick.

I do also agree with Line though in that Herro would be well served to come back . If herro comes back he is a top 10 pick and the money difference between being picked say 7th and picked say 25th is good deal. Not to mention how dedicated the team will be to you . Also he will be one of the 2-3 guys who gets POY preseason talk.
 
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Wall2Boogie

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Man I hope you are right but I just don't see it with how Herro has blown up. He will be a top 25ish pick.

I do also agree with Line though in that Herro would be well served to come back . If herro comes back he is a top 10 pick and the money difference between being picked say 7th and picked say 25th is good deal. Not to mention how dedicated the team will be to you . Also he will be one of the 2-3 guys who gets POY preseason talk.
5 games ago we were all in agreement hagans was gone. Now we are looking to have a crowded backcourt next year. Anything can happen come tournament time. The anomaly would be Aaron Harrison, as any kid would of left after that run, but having a twin as well as wcs coming back was a game changer
 

Bluesnky

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Jan 24, 2013
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Nope he will be our SG unless Herro comes back and I think most people believe this now. He is a pro SG and a college SF but he can be a SG just fine too in college. That is why Brooks is coming in. He will be our starting SF and Maxey and Whitney our backcourt. No other reason Brooks would be coming here as he is not the player Whitney is . Whitney is an ultra elite player who will be a top 5 draft pick.Brooks is more along the lines of a PJ type talent , a kid who if he wants to be drafted in the 1st round needs 2 years.Make no mistake we still need 2 front court players for our PF if Richards and EJ are our centers. Hopefully Todd and Mcdaniels fill that .
The thing that excites me the most about getting Whitney, seemingly Brooks, and potentially McDaniels/Todd is that the are very well suited to the way Cal wants to play defense. Plus they’ll all be monsters in transition. Throw in Tyrese Maxey, and I think we’ve really got something.
 
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CrazyCat74

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Nov 7, 2018
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The thing that excites me the most about getting Whitney, seemingly Brooks, and potentially McDaniels/Todd is that the are very well suited to the way Cal wants to play defense. Plus they’ll all be monsters in transition. Throw in Tyrese Maxey, and I think we’ve really got something.

Hey!! A Post that doesnt have PG, SG, SF, PF and C attached to players names. :)

I agree with you here.

The defense/transition game would be tremendous Maxey, Whitney, Brooks and Todd to go along with Montgomery and whoever else sticks around.
I truly believe Montgomery will be a monster next season with the incoming group. Would love to see him develop a left handed baby hook to use at times in the post. Regardless his speed and athleticism for a 6-10 guy will fit nicely.
 

Grotto_22

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Sep 18, 2005
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That means that there is a very good chance brooks ends up at kentucky. Pegram is pretty dialed into the brooks recruitment.

Peegs stated that he still doesn't know what Brooks is picking, but he is 60/40 on UK/IU. He said things just feel like its UK. I have to agree with him as well on that split, maybe more like 65/35.
 

caneintally

Heisman
Oct 1, 2002
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5 games ago we were all in agreement hagans was gone. Now we are looking to have a crowded backcourt next year. Anything can happen come tournament time. The anomaly would be Aaron Harrison, as any kid would of left after that run, but having a twin as well as wcs coming back was a game changer
Oh I still fully expect Hagans to be gone . IMO nothing will keep him from being 1 and done. He needs to step it up though if he wants to be a 1st rounder.
 

caneintally

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Oct 1, 2002
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The thing that excites me the most about getting Whitney, seemingly Brooks, and potentially McDaniels/Todd is that the are very well suited to the way Cal wants to play defense. Plus they’ll all be monsters in transition. Throw in Tyrese Maxey, and I think we’ve really got something.
Oh I agree. Mcdaniels especially is the perfect Cal player. Hope he realizes that. It does seem like a UW vs UK thing there.
 

MNantz

Heisman
Dec 20, 2001
9,086
11,921
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I love Tyler's game , when he is on he is great, but he's still had those freshman games and stretches. If and I say I hope he does come back it would be about consistency and building his body to be NBA ready I think
 
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JC43

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Oh, no I think he is sure fire 1st round pick.

This is sort of what I think....Hagans is not going in 1st unless something changes drastically. Herro will go in 1st, now. However, Herro is a player that could be a Top 10 pick with another year.

Sort of like PJ...he was teetering on 1st round last year, came back and could break into lottery this year. Herro has even more upside. If he can put on some muscle and show a full year of what he has been for the past 10-12 games, he is 1st Team AA and a Top 10 guy.

All that said, you are probably right.
I love Herro but he doesn't have more upside than PJ, that is ridiculous to say. If Herro were to remain another year and prove he can iso, drove and take a hit and finish, it will only improve his status.
PJ scores at 3 levels, can use both hands, has a dangerously fast first step and has a 7 ftr wingspan.
Herro almost has T-rex arms, but he knows how to use them.
Whitney is a 3 and can play the 4
Allen is nowhere a 2.
 

HagginHall1999

Heisman
Oct 19, 2018
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I love Herro but he doesn't have more upside than PJ, that is ridiculous to say. If Herro were to remain another year and prove he can iso, drove and take a hit and finish, it will only improve his status.
PJ scores at 3 levels, can use both hands, has a dangerously fast first step and has a 7 ftr wingspan.
Herro almost has T-rex arms, but he knows how to use them.
Whitney is a 3 and can play the 4
Allen is nowhere a 2.

Maybe I didn't explain well...what I meant was upside in draft, not necessarily upside as a player.

Herro could go from a 20-25 guy to Top 10 IMO.
 

JC43

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Maybe I didn't explain well...what I meant was upside in draft, not necessarily upside as a player.

Herro could go from a 20-25 guy to Top 10 IMO.
Got ya, I can agree with, lije with PJ last yr, said he would be sec poy, maybe poy...
Totally see Herro returning and getting both SEC POY, possibly POY if he can increase his assists and rebounds..
 
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Catzman

Heisman
Apr 29, 2002
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Came to see updates on Brooks, found more debate on whether or not Herro goes.

I find it interesting that it looks like he has grown. Used to be more of a 6'6 SF but appears to really be a legit 6'8 now. If you look past the hair, he's not much shorter than 6'9 Steward.

https://www.iolaniclassic.com/teams/lalumiere/?portfolioCats=23

Brooks, if a true 6'8, is a game changer for us because he can definitely play the 4. I always felt Whitney could, in a pinch, but always assumed Brooks was more of a Keldon Johnson, big wing. Nope, at 6'8 it means, if we do get him, and one of McDaniels or a Todd or Hurt, Dante, Watford, etc, that would give us 1 true 5 in Richards, and 2 legit 4s in Montgomery and other recruit along with 2 combo forwards in Whitney and Brooks. That's 5 players who can rotate those 2 spots and would be huge.
 
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ConRay9

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I keep seeing people post around this board that Herro doesn’t seem like the “type” of player that would be wanting to jump at the NBA as soon as possible. Why? What has he done to indicate that?

Maybe other than Keldon he’s EASILY the cockiest guy on the team. I mean that in a good way. I don’t see how you can watch him and think otherwise. I think he’s gone and I think he absolutely has the right attitude to make it work and to make it work fast.

I’m starting to think Hagans could stay but there’s a lot of factors that play in that. If he stays that makes 3 point guards on next year’s roster. Simple logistics may even push him out but he hasn’t helped his draft stock recently, so it’s hard to say.
 
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G-PIP

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I keep seeing people post around this board that Herro doesn’t seem like the “type” of player that would be wanting to jump at the NBA as soon as possible. Why? What has he done to indicate that?

Maybe other than Keldon he’s EASILY the cockiest guy on the team. I mean that in a good way. I don’t see how you can watch him and think otherwise. I think he’s gone and I think he absolutely has the right attitude to make it work and to make it work fast.

I’m starting to think Hagans could stay but there’s a lot of factors that play in that. If he stays that makes 3 point guards on next year’s roster. Simple logistics may even push him out but he hasn’t helped his draft stock recently, so it’s hard to say.
But, aren't the other two PGs we expect for next season - Quickley and Maxey - more combo guards than pure PGs? And if so, that would certainly ease issues of playing time, right?
 

caneintally

Heisman
Oct 1, 2002
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Just curious if you have a quote to back up this claim?
He said this many many times. Hell he said it in an interview basically on tv after the Ole miss game ( not the not going to Wisky part but came here because Cal can get him ready for the NBA fastest)
 

caneintally

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Oct 1, 2002
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I keep seeing people post around this board that Herro doesn’t seem like the “type” of player that would be wanting to jump at the NBA as soon as possible. Why? What has he done to indicate that?

Maybe other than Keldon he’s EASILY the cockiest guy on the team. I mean that in a good way. I don’t see how you can watch him and think otherwise. I think he’s gone and I think he absolutely has the right attitude to make it work and to make it work fast.

I’m starting to think Hagans could stay but there’s a lot of factors that play in that. If he stays that makes 3 point guards on next year’s roster. Simple logistics may even push him out but he hasn’t helped his draft stock recently, so it’s hard to say.

Yep as good as Hagans can be he can't hold Maxey's jock . Maxey IMO is one of the 3 best pgs we have brought in along with Wall and Fox. I know Ulis was the best pg in a single season in terms of results but he wasn't that when we brought him in. Playing behind Harrison and working hard in the offseason made him that as a soph.

So Hagans might be forced in a way though I would love him back and maybe our starting guards could be hagans and Maxey since Maxey is a great scorer as well.
 

Catzman

Heisman
Apr 29, 2002
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Lol. Herro's exact reason for changing his commitment from Wisconsin to UK was the chance to be a 1andDone.

Yes, a chance. He will have a chance. But will he want top 25 to top 30 pick money or lottery money a year later? Put on another 5 to 10 pounds, iron our the consistency in your jumper and more lead guard ball handling/play making ability and use added weight to finish in the lane better.
 
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catsfanbgky

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Oct 18, 2006
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Yes, a chance. He will have a chance. But will he want top 25 to top 30 pick money or lottery money a year later? Put on another 5 to 10 pounds, iron our the consistency in your jumper and more lead guard ball handling/play making ability and use added weight to finish in the lane better.

I agree. If he is not guaranteed a first round selection, he comes back. But, he decided to attend UK for the sole purpose of proving to the NBA scouts that he is more than just a shooter. He wanted the spotlight, big stage to compete against tough competition everyday in practice and UK's schedule so that he could show he was worthy of being a 1andDone. Now, if the scouts tell him they think he will go in the 2nd round and he would be best served by coming back, he will. BUT, if he gets a first round guarantee, he is gone. Period.
 
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ConRay9

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Yep as good as Hagans can be he can't hold Maxey's jock . Maxey IMO is one of the 3 best pgs we have brought in along with Wall and Fox. I know Ulis was the best pg in a single season in terms of results but he wasn't that when we brought him in. Playing behind Harrison and working hard in the offseason made him that as a soph.

So Hagans might be forced in a way though I would love him back and maybe our starting guards could be hagans and Maxey since Maxey is a great scorer as well.

Would love to have Hagans back but I agree I feel very good about Maxey running the ship. He’s an amazing talent and I think could be up in that elite tier of guards we’ve had here as well.
 
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ConRay9

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But, aren't the other two PGs we expect for next season - Quickley and Maxey - more combo guards than pure PGs? And if so, that would certainly ease issues of playing time, right?

I think it could work but I feel like Maxey would take the rein as point guard and primary ball handler. Hagans may not want to share those duties/minutes if he can snag a guaranteed contract even if it ends up being second round.
 

Dward13

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There sure are a lot of signs pointing to Uk but everyone thought we had Blackmon too until the last second.

On IU, I just think Miller is a good but not great coach that’s better suited at a place like Dayton and is in over his head at IU.

I think the best thing that could happen for IU is it’s revealed Langford took money in the adidas scandal and they can fire Miller with cause and try again. I think Langford got a Marvin Bagley type deal though and apparently that’s not against NCAA rules.
 

Tapemaster8

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Yeah.. not sure why he's automatically gone to some people. Why, because he's a late 1st rounder? Now, if he keeps this play up (by this I mean Ole Miss/Akry and not Tenn), yes, I think he could push into fringe lottery.. but that would also mean Kentucky goes on quite a run on the back of Herro's shooting performance.. So I'd take a Final 4 if it meant Herro is 1AD...

But as of now? Late 1st rounder, and I'm not sure that's the type of player Herro is.. the "1st chance at the NBA, I'm taking" type of guy. I don't think Herro envisioned being a 1AD player. Would he welcome it? Sure. But I think there's a good chance he comes back unless he is for sure a top20 guy.
I believe he is gone! Don't think he expected to be a one and done. But he hits to many critical shots and plays extremely hard. Yes he makes some boo boos, but he does it full speed. I don't see where coming back will benefit him other than getting him closer to a degree. Just my opinion, not worth much but I think a lot of it! Lol!
 

Slowwalker

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He said this many many times. Hell he said it in an interview basically on tv after the Ole miss game ( not the not going to Wisky part but came here because Cal can get him ready for the NBA fastest)

That is different than saying he came here to be one and done. As quick as possible means just that. That could mean two years, three years, etc. There are also other factors to consider. I’m not saying that isn’t his desire or goal.

My point is, he has never specifically said he cane here to be one and done.
 

W_Heisenberg

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Man I hope you are right but I just don't see it with how Herro has blown up. He will be a top 25ish pick.

I do also agree with Line though in that Herro would be well served to come back . If herro comes back he is a top 10 pick and the money difference between being picked say 7th and picked say 25th is good deal. Not to mention how dedicated the team will be to you . Also he will be one of the 2-3 guys who gets POY preseason talk.


1) Herro is 90% gone after this year

2) Herro will not be a top 10 pick in next year's draft, or the year after that, or the year after that...love the kid, love his game, but c'mon
 

UKEE93

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Jan 28, 2003
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Was posted on IUsedToBe's board that KBJ posted an image on Instagram of UNC and Michigan State and then quickly deleted it. Either he's going to blow up a few fan bases or he's messing with them like hell.
 

BassProCat

Heisman
Jan 5, 2017
11,912
27,231
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Was posted on IUsedToBe's board that KBJ posted an image on Instagram of UNC and Michigan State and then quickly deleted it. Either he's going to blow up a few fan bases or he's messing with them like hell.

It’s not deleted it’s on his IG story. I just looked but idk how to link IG stories.

It’s just a photoshopped image of him in a UNC and MSU jersey and has some thinking emoji.
 
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IU logic is working OT. I checked in on their site to see what they thought about Keion Brooks and they have posted about how RR doesn't even know his name and thinks it is Keon. How we don't care about recruits we just get them in to win games and get them out and don't care about them at all LMFAO! Man, they are such F-ing losers! Because a guy misspelled his first name they are trying to make something sinister out of it LOL. Please let sucky-*** Rutgers beat them with Brooks watching.