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KerryRhodes

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Relax guy. He is still.a young man and a kentucky boy. Unfortunately their is a bad problem in the Native American community with alcoholism. In all honesty. Him getting drunk and acting like a 22 year old college student probably had little to do with his heritage.

But a good point on Willis. He is capable of having a huge night. RP will have UL prepared. It's not an accident he is a HOF coach. I look at RP locking up a crazy D plan. Slowing the game down and giving his team a chance to win in the end.

Alcoholism is not exclusive to just Native Americans. ALL RACES AND ETHNICITIES have problems with liquor.

No excuses to why he was not suspended. If he was a Card (he grew up a Cards fan),
your fanbase would have had a 10 page thread on lack of discipline at UofL.
 
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earsky

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I'm not sure why anyone thinks Hicks is quick - he's not. Fox will abuse him M2M. Got to keep them out of the lane - taking away the lob - and try to make them all jump shooters. Then we have to rebound and hopefully have good offensive possessions.
Yeah,yeah,yeah(sorry,my brother-in-law has me saying this lately).Just sayin if it's m2m,Hicks might be able to be physical there.Cal's gonna prepare for the zone though.Looks out of that preparation vs. looks against the man.Quite the conundrum.
 

BPGhost

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Yeah,yeah,yeah(sorry,my brother-in-law has me saying this lately).Just sayin if it's m2m,Hicks might be able to be physical there.Cal's gonna prepare for the zone though.Looks out of that preparation vs. looks against the man.Quite the conundrum.
Hope you're right - I just don't see it with Hicks. It's not the physicality, it's the first step. I wish I had a nickel for every time a yut guard sticks his shoulder into the middle of a defender's chest on his way to the basket, only to have it be called on the defense.

You can prepare for the zone all you want - you still have to hit shots in the half court. Hopefully they won't.
 
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Atrain7732

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CRP will have a plan to slow down their guards and if Monk and Fox don't go crazy like they did yesterday Cards can win this game. I think our inside game gives them trouble and if Adebayo gets in foul trouble
UK doesn't have much behind him.

This is all very true. Pitino will force this into a half court grind it out game where UK has to play defense for extended timeframes. Also, UK has not faced anything like UL's defense and intensity.

Combine that with the first true road game for the U.K. Freshman being at Yum, and there are more than a few concerned U.K. Fans such as myself (whether we admit it or not).

May be time for UL to take one. As a Cat fan, i sure hope not. Either way it goes, hoping for an exciting injury free game. Both teams will learn and grow from the experience regardless.
 
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earsky

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Hope you're right - I just don't see it with Hicks. It's not the physicality, it's the first step. I wish I had a nickel for every time a yut guard sticks his shoulder into the middle of a defender's chest on his way to the basket, only to have it be called on the defense.

You can prepare for the zone all you want - you still have to hit shots in the half court. Hopefully they won't.
If CP decides to try and win the game,you are right,it won't be playing man.
 

coolioo1

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I am a UK fan, and I agree with some comments that Rick should play this like old school Big East, like from his Providence days, not UofL Big East days. An Ugly game frustrates UK's younger players.

The uglier it is, the better it is for UofL.
 

Cue Card

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UofK just has more raw talent from top to bottom. I used to think Pitino was a better X's and O's coach than Calipari, but I'll admit that gap has closed as well. Calipari has improved as an X's and O's coach over the years. That happens with experience.

I'm not throwing in the towel. I'll be screaming by bloody head off come Wednesday night for the Cardinals, but in my heart I feel this game will be won by the Cats and it'll probably be Willis who does the damage in crunch time to put UofK over the top.
 
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earsky

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Calipari has improved as an X's and O's coach over the years. That happens with experience.
Historically,in this renewed rivalry between the 2,Cal has set up a game plan defensively to disturb what the Cards like to do offensively.I'll give 2 glaring examples.The first was Liggins guarding Siva,here at the Yum, I think Siva's sophomore year.The other was hedging on the pick-n-roll with Cauley-Stein against Russ Smith at Rupp in 2014,I think.

Both moves tactically swung those games.Now,tbs, I don't know who Cal goes after in this game with his defense.There is no clear consensus on how this UofL offense clicks to me.One thing for sure.Pitino will have to adjust on the fly better to counter.Should be quite the chess match.
 

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I'm with the crowd that says the uglier the better for UofL. UofL can't score points the way UK can, if it turns into a shootout, it will be a blowout.

Cards will have to hassle and harass them to the point of frustration. The lower the score, the better UofLs chances.
 
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Cue Card

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Historically,in this renewed rivalry between the 2,Cal has set up a game plan defensively to disturb what the Cards like to do offensively.I'll give 2 glaring examples.The first was Liggins guarding Siva,here at the Yum, I think Siva's sophomore year.The other was hedging on the pick-n-roll with Cauley-Stein against Russ Smith at Rupp in 2014,I think.

Both moves tactically swung those games.Now,tbs, I don't know who Cal goes after in this game with his defense.There is no clear consensus on how this UofL offense clicks to me.One thing for sure.Pitino will have to adjust on the fly better to counter.Should be quite the chess match.
If I had to guess (and I am), defensively, I think he'll do his best to take Mitchell out of the game since he seems to be the only player we have who can somewhat create his own shot off the bounce. Everyone else needs to catch and shoot which he'll probably counter with a switching man to man. UofK is quicker and more talented. UofL's best chance is to slow it down and get UofK in foul trouble. Even then, I'm not sure that will be enough to discount Willis and Hawkins.
 
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earsky

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Our bigs may be able to capitalize from the attention elsewhere.The dump down from one to the other on the baseline might be there.
 
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Lukasz0brzut

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UK gives up second chance opportunities. UL bigs will be an x factor -- will be a lot of missed shots in this one in a half court game. Can UK keep UL off the boards?
 

JohnKBA

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Pitino is probably the coach who adapts best to what he has - when the three point shot was the shiny and new thing, he took advantage and improbably led Providence to a Final Four. When he had NBA talent 2 deep at UK, he pressed the hell out of you and beat you into submission. At U of L, while he is often outclassed on talent against the other big time programs, he slows things down and forces you to play his game - the knife fight in the dark closet that BP mentioned earlier.

All of the games we have played vs you guys since Cal has gotten here have been competitive, and I expect nothing less from this game.
 
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I keep hearing that the Cards have to play slow and make it an ugly game in order to have a chance to win.

I am not sure Pitino wants to play slow necessarily.

The key is controlling the tempo/pace. Have to take good shots. The Cards will look to run when they can. They don't want to face UK's half-court D every trip down.

You can run/play an uptempo style, play some good to great defense, slow it down/run some offense while trying to slow the other team down without making it a track meet or AAU all-star game (no shots intended). It's called college basketball.

There is a difference between playing slow (see Virginia) and controlling the pace/style tempo of the game.

Louisville has some athletes and length. Don't kid yourself or let anyone tell you differently.

Pitino has this team ready with a solid game plan every year for this game. Unfortunately for him someone unexpectedly for UK has stepped up and made some key plays or shots.

He will find a wrinkle and run the same play about 5 times in this game for an easy bucket attempt. Watch for this.

I get why some fans are negative and don't feel like the Cards can win this game given the results over the last several years and lack of offense/offensive scoring droughts at times, but the idea that there is no way they can win this game is amazing to me.
 

DelkBowl

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UK gives up second chance opportunities. UL bigs will be an x factor -- will be a lot of missed shots in this one in a half court game. Can UK keep UL off the boards?
UK may have this corrected as they out rebounded UNC who is a good rebounding team.
 

ULarder

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UK has no PF. They get abused at that position. We have an advantage in the frontcourt.
 

redbirdbonnie

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The birds with teeth.

You knew the answer
The answer is neither team gets slaughtered.
They appear to me to be two evenly matched teams. It will be a close hard fought game like all of the games except one since Cal came to UK. Only this time Cards will win the close game. Don't be surprised that when the point spread comes out that the Cards are the favorite in the game and they cover the spread.
UK hasn't seen this kind of defense and they don't have Ulis anymore.
 
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David Gilmour

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If we can keep Monk from going GCUs Russel on us and keep this Bam kid from going TexSo Griffin on us, it would help. Both are capable.
 

JohnKBA

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Projected Bovada spread: Pick'em.

Ken Pomeroy projection: Louisville 79-77, with 55-percent confidence.

The lowdown: The home-court advantage is a factor, which is probably why the Cards are slightly favored on the popular metrics site. Both teams are exceptional at offensive rebounding, and they've both been solid in taking care of the ball. The most intriguing matchup within Wednesday's game will be on Kentucky's offensive end: The Wildcats (10-1) have the fifth-most-efficient offense in the country, and U of L has the nation's most-efficient defense.

Flip a coin.
 

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Dude - you relax. I wasn't making a larger point on alcoholism in Native Americans, I was simply poking fun at his incredible lack of judgment.

Does being a "Kentucky boy" get you slack when you DUI? That's odd thinking.

Lastly, you may want to take the subject of insulting college students and having no class up with your yut fan base, as they've taken both to an art form.



I'm responding to what you said. Not idiotic over the top UK fans. In my circles if anyone make distasteful remarks about any young person regardless of who they play for. We call them out. Hey man you can say and have your opinions. I just gave my opinion on your remarks. As far as giving Willis a pass? Hell no. What he did was bad. And hopefully the young man understands it could of been a lot worse. I do feel like he paid a price for his bad judgment. I've been their as a young person. Only difference my mistake was not on video for an entire Country to see. I'm sure he received some nasty social media responses because of his bad judgment. Just do not see the need to label the kid a drunk backed up by his heritage. Think most of us are above that. At the end of the day he seems like a good young man who made a mistake. Thats all i was saying.
 

Cue Card

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I think the key to the game will be out scoring UK. If we can score more than Kentucky after 40 minutes I think we will win. Of course they have to score less than we do. I can't see us winning otherwise.
LOL. Love it! Thanks John Madden!
 
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jwheat

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UK has no PF. They get abused at that position. We have an advantage in the frontcourt.
To be fair North Carolina probably has the best front court in the country between Meeks, Jackson, and Hicks and whoever that big honk was that came off the bench and nailed two threes and had 11 points
 

caneintally

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tarheels exposed kentuckys defense yesterday briscoe is a good defender just to small to play the 3 monk is a scorer but streaky shooter bam is a stud but a 4 instead of a 5 fox is hard to keep in front of but only a mid range shooter in my opinon willis is the key if the cards play zone him and mulder are the best shooters behind monk.
Monk is anything but streaky. He will get his as he has gone over 20 7 times now already. He will get his 20 regardless. To beat us UL will have to stop Briscoe and Fox from getting there's though. UK has the top 3 players in the country statistically who score in transitition ( first time in NCAA history that has happened) so for UL to have a shot they got to slow this game down to a crawl. Also any talk about UK's defense being bad is just that - talk as UK's D is 5 spots below UL's at 6th last time I checked but we suck on D at the 4 spot that is true. At the other 4 spots we are elite on D so that means UL is going to need their 4's to score alot to be in this game. UL is a good team but just matches up horribly with UK IMO .
 

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Both teams have played 11 games. UofK has played a stronger schedule IMO, and they still win the battle of the stats for the most part.

UofK has 386 fg's. UofL has 308.
UofK has made 83 3 pointers. UofL has made 74
UofK averages 95 ppg. UofL averages 78
UofK averages 20 apg. UofL averages 15
UofK shoots better from the field - 49% vs 43.4%
UofK shoots better from the 3 point line - 34.2% vs 32.9%

UofL wins the rebounding battle 45 to 43 on average per game
UofL wins the ft% 68.9% to 68.3%
UofL and UofK swat 7 blocks per game on average.
UofL and UofK average 11 turnovers per game.

Based on these stats, UofK should win and win fairly easy. If the Cards win, it will be an upset based on these stats.