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Kentucky basketball and calipari are kneeling for games because of the “Mostly peaceful” protest at the Capitol. Lawmakers in Kentucky are demanding the university should be defunded because the players kneeling I wonder if Rondale will lose his scholarship to Kentucky if they defund it. People aren’t happy down there about the situation and even had a sheriff burn Kentucky t shirts.
 

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Kentucky basketball and calipari are kneeling for games because of the “Mostly peaceful” protest at the Capitol. Lawmakers in Kentucky are demanding the university should be defunded because the players kneeling I wonder if Rondale will lose his scholarship to Kentucky if they defund it. People aren’t happy down there about the situation and even had a sheriff burn Kentucky t shirts.
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Kentucky basketball and calipari are kneeling for games because of the “Mostly peaceful” protest at the Capitol. Lawmakers in Kentucky are demanding the university should be defunded because the players kneeling I wonder if Rondale will lose his scholarship to Kentucky if they defund it. People aren’t happy down there about the situation and even had a sheriff burn Kentucky t shirts.

They are against America and Free Speech.
 

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I'm one of them...i've been watchin riots and looting and arson for the last 4 years...now a certain side of the political isle is acting like this has never happened before last week and it's outragous.
An attempted coup, a riot incited by the president on the US capitol? What happened has no modern precedent in our country. That you are unable to distinguish between an attempt to unlawfully seize power from the riots that occurred over the summer and fall of last year is extraordinary. Alas, we are living in extraordinary times.
 
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An attempted coup, a riot incited by the president on the US capitol? What happened has no modern precedent in our country. That you are unable to distinguish between an attempt to unlawfully seize power from the riots that occurred over the summer and fall of last year is extraordinary. Alas, we are living in extraordinary times.

4 years running....Not last summer and fall. Four. Cuarto. Qatre. Vier. IV.

All rationalized away so nicely. Nice job.
 

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4 years running....Not last summer and fall. Four. Cuarto. Qatre. Vier. IV.

All rationalized away so nicely. Nice job.
Again, you are comparing violent riots, which I do not condone in any way shape or form, with the storming of the US capitol. Can you really not distinguish between the two?

The argument that this was somehow intended to preserve democracy is astounding. It was just the opposite. People fed on a false narrative of a stolen election hoped at the very least to intimidate elected officials into overturning the election results, and there is considerable evidence that some intended far worse.
 

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I'm one of them...i've been watchin riots and looting and arson for the last 4 years...now a certain side of the political isle is acting like this has never happened before last week and it's outragous.
we heard how riots were the voice of the unheard. In line with online censoring, I guess only one side is allowed to be heard
 
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Again, you are comparing violent riots, which I do not condone in any way shape or form, with the storming of the US capitol. Can you really not distinguish between the two?

The argument that this was somehow intended to preserve democracy is astounding. It was just the opposite. People fed on a false narrative of a stolen election hoped at the very least to intimidate elected officials into overturning the election results, and there is considerable evidence that some intended far worse.
same thing happened at Kavanaugh hearings, ya know, the supposed leader of a rape gang.
 

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I guess I missed that. What happened exactly?
people tried to storm the building, sent death threats to officials who wouldn't vote against him. It was a typical Dem circus.
Not to mention the countless attempts of rioters to storm the White House.
 
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Hahahaha if you legitimately think the University of Kentucky is going to be defunded because the basketball team kneeled during the national anthem you are incredibly delusional.
 
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Again, you are comparing violent riots, which I do not condone in any way shape or form, with the storming of the US capitol. Can you really not distinguish between the two?

The argument that this was somehow intended to preserve democracy is astounding. It was just the opposite. People fed on a false narrative of a stolen election hoped at the very least to intimidate elected officials into overturning the election results, and there is considerable evidence that some intended far worse.

So exactly like what we've seen for the last 4 years then.
 

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Hahahaha if you legitimately think the University of Kentucky is going to be defunded because the basketball team kneeled during the national anthem you are incredibly delusional.
No. I don’t think it’s going to happen. I just hate Kentucky right now
 

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Last week's events were disgusting. And Trump deserves to be removed from office. Last week. And he should face trial for his actions, as should every person who went into the capitol.

But let's not kid ourselves that this is not tolerated all the time. People tend to cheer when it is THEIR side, or THEIR cause that's whipping up the violence. Whether on the right or left:

Let’s make sure we show up wherever we have to show up. And if you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd. And you push back on them. And you tell them they’re not welcome anymore, anywhere
 

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Last week's events were disgusting. And Trump deserves to be removed from office. Last week. And he should face trial for his actions, as should every person who went into the capitol.

But let's not kid ourselves that this is not tolerated all the time. People tend to cheer when it is THEIR side, or THEIR cause that's whipping up the violence. Whether on the right or left:

Let’s make sure we show up wherever we have to show up. And if you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd. And you push back on them. And you tell them they’re not welcome anymore, anywhere
where did trump encourage the storming of the capitol?
If he is accountable, then VP Harris should be for summer riots.
Biden couldn't even denounce the terrorists on his side. At least Trump did.
 

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people tried to storm the building, sent death threats to officials who wouldn't vote again him. It was a typical Dem circus.
Not to mention the countless attempts of rioters to storm the White House.
When you say people, are you talking about a massive swell of thousands prompted and incited by an elected official? Because I follow the news pretty closely and what you seem to be referencing are individual acts. Are you comparing those to a mob of thousands. For the record, the last time the US capitol was stormed, before last week, was more than 200 years ago. It's pretty shocking than anyone would attempt to minimize the significance of what occurred last week.

Listen, I'm not trying to say that death threats or riots or violence of any kind from the left is acceptable. However, I do recognize that both sides of the political divide have their passionate members among the rank an file, and those people sometimes get out of control and undermine the important message of others. It seems you are too busy trying to establish a whataboutism here rather than taking a step back to process what just happened in our country.
 
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Kneeling is so 2016-2020 now...nobody cares who does it anymore. Kneel for whatever you think you need to kneel for and I will treat it the same as I always have...with a great big eye roll.
 

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So exactly like what we've seen for the last 4 years then.
Not in the least. There is a difference, which you refuse to acknowledge. Perhaps you lack the ability to distinguish an attempted coup from rioters breaking windows and stealing TVs. Last week was an assault on democracy. If you think storming the capitol to threaten and possibly kill elected officials because you don't like the outcome of an election is an expression of free speech then you do not understand the American system.
 
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Not in the least. There is a difference, which you refuse to acknowledge. Perhaps you lack the ability to distinguish an attempted coup from rioters breaking windows and stealing TVs. Last week was an assault on democracy. If you think storming the capitol to threaten and possibly kill elected officials because you don't like the outcome of an election is an expression of free speech then you do not understand the American system.

I watched all of that for the last 4 years.
 

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No. I don’t think it’s going to happen. I just hate Kentucky right now
Why do you hate Kentucky? I’m having a hard time following you. You’re perfectly ok with all the Twitter stuff, cuz that’s what college age kids do. But now that college age kids want to kneel, which is what they do, it’s bad?

Help me understand...
 

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Not in the least. There is a difference, which you refuse to acknowledge. Perhaps you lack the ability to distinguish an attempted coup from rioters breaking windows and stealing TVs. Last week was an assault on democracy. If you think storming the capitol to threaten and possibly kill elected officials because you don't like the outcome of an election is an expression of free speech then you do not understand the American system.
I think it had more to do with the election being Potentially rigged. Not the outcome of the election.
 

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Why do you hate Kentucky? I’m having a hard time following you. You’re perfectly ok with all the Twitter stuff, cuz that’s what college age kids do. But now that college age kids want to kneel, which is what they do, it’s bad?

Help me understand...
I never said it was bad. All I did was bring attention to it and let you make your decision on how you feel about it. I just summarized what I read.
 

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Again, you are comparing violent riots, which I do not condone in any way shape or form, with the storming of the US capitol. Can you really not distinguish between the two?

The argument that this was somehow intended to preserve democracy is astounding. It was just the opposite. People fed on a false narrative of a stolen election hoped at the very least to intimidate elected officials into overturning the election results, and there is considerable evidence that some intended far worse.

So the difference is location, not the action? By that rationale, it makes a difference where you shoot someone, not that you did.

Please quote word for word what the President said to invoke this violent protest. Exact quote, not a paraphrase.
 

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I don't see how kneeling is accomplishing anything. It's furthering the divide. But, free country, so do what you want. Once some fans have seen enough, they aren't coming back. Couple that with a decline in interest level among Gen Z and major sport are undergoing a contraction.
 

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So the difference is location, not the action? By that rationale, it makes a difference where you shoot someone, not that you did.

Please quote word for word what the President said to invoke this violent protest. Exact quote, not a paraphrase.

By any standard, including the one used by the U.S. when it casts its gaze abroad, what occurred last week was an attempted coup. A mob of citizens stormed the capitol in an attempt to overturn the results of a democratic election. They were inspired by a president who has for weeks falsely told them that the election was a massive fraud.

From a legal perspective I'm not sure whether you need a person to explicitly state "mob the capitol building" to find that person responsible for inciting a mob. I'm certain that lawyers can argue both sides, but I would tell you that quite often people found guilty of ordering a murder didn't explicitly state "go murder that dude."

If you really don't see the difference, then there is nothing I can say here that will change your mind. I try to use some perspective on these things, but I understand that many people can't see their way around emotionally charged issues. And I fully recognize that goes for both right and left.
 
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Kneeling is so 2016-2020 now...nobody cares who does it anymore. Kneel for whatever you think you need to kneel for and I will treat it the same as I always have...with a great big eye roll.

No, you are wrong. Didn't you notice that as soon as players started to kneel, racism completely ended in this country. It worked really well. Nobody even brings it up anymore, regardless of whether there was any merit to it. Really.
 

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By any standard, including the one used by the U.S. when it casts its gaze abroad, what occurred last week was an attempted coup. A mob of citizens stormed the capitol in an attempt to overturn the results of a democratic election. They were inspired by a president who has for weeks falsely told them that the election was a massive fraud.

From a legal perspective I'm not sure whether you need a person to explicitly state "mob the capitol building" to find that person responsible for inciting a mob. I'm certain that lawyers can argue both sides, but I would tell you that quite often people found guilty of ordering a murder didn't explicitly state "go murder that dude."

If you really don't see the difference, then there is nothing I can say here that will change your mind. I try to use some perspective on these things, but I understand that many people can't see their way around emotionally charged issues. And I fully recognize that goes for both right and left.
I disagree 100% that this was a mob of citizens attempting to overturn election results. I will grant you it was a mob of citizens fueled by anger that took action, but I disagree that they felt their actions might overturn the election.

They were mad and they acted on their anger. That’s it.
 

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Why do you hate Kentucky? I’m having a hard time following you. You’re perfectly ok with all the Twitter stuff, cuz that’s what college age kids do. But now that college age kids want to kneel, which is what they do, it’s bad?

Help me understand...
Because brown guy not stand up for flag song. Have you not been on this board the last several years?
 

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I disagree 100% that this was a mob of citizens attempting to overturn election results. I will grant you it was a mob of citizens fueled by anger that took action, but I disagree that they felt their actions might overturn the election.

They were mad and they acted on their anger. That’s it.
Fair enough