Kelly Bryant
- Thread starter RutherfordBHayes
- Start date
I find it funny that so many people in this thread and others are saying they don't want Bryant when 4 successful offensive coaches in our league all want him on their team. I'm sure the ones on our message board know a lot more than Moorhead, Malzahn, Morris and Odom do though. He's gonna probably start for one of those coaches, and I damn sure hope it's ours.
Honest question....so what if we promised him the job? He still has to earn it. Lets cut through the ******** and just call recruiting what it is....very polished and masqueraded tall tales and often unfulfilled promises for the most part. The best “recruiters” are almost always the best salesmen that seem most believable when they are selling their ********. Like it or not, that is what makes the world go round in college football. You don’t think Alabama has 85 guys who were all told they would be starting by their Junior year when they were being recruited?
Man, there are a lotta folks in here that know more about the qb room and what joe moorhead needs to be successful than the man himself. If Joe wants him, we all want him no matter what your opinion may be. Joe has spent a year around all these QBs he knows what he has. He doesnt like it. Stop putting icing on it. He is going after the next starting quarterback and yes if he comes here he is guaranteed the job and yes KT will transfer by the end of spring regardless. If we dont get him I'm curious how joe proceeds, but make no mistake about it, We are chasing KB hard because that's the future and if you dont like it well I doubt anyone cares.
We hired Joe. We have to trust his instincts and decisions more than our own. It's a little bit of strange ground for state chasing after big names not getting developmental guys we see for 4 or 5 years.
We hired Joe. We have to trust his instincts and decisions more than our own. It's a little bit of strange ground for state chasing after big names not getting developmental guys we see for 4 or 5 years.
If he beats out KT, it was worth getting him no matter how small of an upgrade it actually is.
If he doesn’t beat out KT, we have a seasoned passer who would be an extremely reliable back-up or even a “1B” option depending on opponent or game flow.
In either case, he’s worth bringing in, and it really doesn’t matter if he beats him out or not. Nobody should view this as a negative if he comes in.
It makes me worry that he doesn't know how to mold a qb and take what he has to be successful. KT was a big time star out of high school. Mayden was highly recruited also. If he can't use those guys, i highly doubt his qb development ability. Our young guys on the roster are the future. Not a guy that's going to come in and play one year and probably be no better than the guys we have on the roster already.
Lots of big time guys out of high school who were highly recruited never make it in the college game. Recruiting Bryant as a transfer isn't necessarily an indictment on Thompson. It's simply saying that Bryant is the better, more experienced, and more proven QB.
It also boils down to scheme. KT could be a great QB for a Mullen system, but terrible for Moorhead. It doesn't make KT a bad player necessarily, or Moorhead a bad coach. Now if Schrader and future QB recruits don't pan out either, then you can start to pin that on Moorhead.
I think fitz is the better example. Fitz crashed in qbr this season after being top 20 the previous 2 years
Right, it's hard to blame Moorhead if QBs recruited by Mullen to run the ball up the gut 30 times a game don't pan out in his system.
I didn't want Cam for all the same reasons. Couldn't understand why Mullen wanted to destroy our locker room chemistry for a pre-madonna. A few games into the 2010 season, I understood.
I'm not saying that Kelly Bryant is in the same conversation as Cam Newton, I'm just saying I will let Moorhead decide who wants to recruit at the QB position.
I'm not saying that Kelly Bryant is in the same conversation as Cam Newton, I'm just saying I will let Moorhead decide who wants to recruit at the QB position.
A few games into the season that Auburn won the national championship you decided that it was better that we not get the player drove their success? All of the aftermath aside, I would have enjoyed every second of a Cam led Mississippi State team in 2010. Would have probably been up there as one of our best.
I think you missed his point there WutheringDawg. He was saying he understood why Mullen wanted him so bad. That's how I read it anyway. I don't know if getting Newton would have impacted getting Dak or Nick or anybody else, but I think we would all trade anything (other than those 2 maybe) for a national championship in 2010.
I'm not saying that we shouldn't recruit him or that it would be a negative if he comes to State.
My guess is he's going to Missouri. I think Auburn would be a mistake.
My guess is he's going to Missouri. I think Auburn would be a mistake.
Yeah you're right - I missread the post. That's my bad. And to your second point. I don't think I could trade Dak because of what he has become as a true face of the school, but I could definitely trade Nick's career for a National Championship. Not sure if that makes me a bad fan or person.
Yeah, I know you weren’t. Wasn’t directed at you specifically. The main point is that it doesn’t matter what people assume will happen with Bryant. Some MSU fans assume he will beat out KT, some assume KT will beat out Bryant. There’s no point in discussing any of it because nobody KNOWS anything other than 3 QB’s are better than 2 QB’s....and we don’t have to send anyone packing to make that happen.
Gotcha. It would be impressive if our staff got him to come here. I think the fact that we're on the shortlist of a high profile QB grad transfer shows the reputation of Moorhead's offense.
I don't think it means JoMo cannot be successful with the QB's he has; it means he thinks Bryant is likely an improvement over what he has. If you are holding a good hand, but you have reason to believe drawing a card will improve your hand, then you draw that card.
The big names also agreed to a contract renegotiation that lowered Gus’s buyout for next year and gave him this one last season to turn it around. I fully believe the boosters will make sure he gets everything he says he needs. Gus is also incapable of QB development. And KB is no sCam kNewton.