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CatsPaws270

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Man....this thread is an example of not reading what the OP says....

I never said they played alike....

I simply stated they were 2 wings with raw skill that hadn't fully developed at the college level. They both have/had 1st round projections on their potential...but both just didn't show a high level of skill in their first season.

Both did great things, but never became the player they could've

I NEVER COMPARED THEIR SKILL OR STYLE OF PLAY!
 
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Catluv

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Loved Young but if he was handling the ball a turnover was on the way! He was probably the worst passer we ever had here.
 
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carolinacat

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They are similar types athletically...but I think Keldon is a more fiery competitor and he'll stick in the NBA because of his work ethic.
 
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Glenn Fohr

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Young wouldn't pass, couldn't play defense, and had no right hand. Pitiful choice turning pro.
 
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sluggercatfan

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kev69 said:
Well, neither could defend or pass, so they are similar in that way. When Keldon gets drafted in the top 20, they will also have that in common.

James was drafted 17th and finished his career shooting 27.7% from 3 and 34% overall.

I hope he invested his money wisely.
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Think be made 6/8 million probably ended up wth about 3.5. Have no clue what he did with it or what he's doing now. Hope he has no baby mommas
 
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zannmann

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Both players made the same mistake, One and Done. Both could have used one more year.
 
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Beatle Bum

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GonzoCat90 said:
James Young was a freakish athlete who had a great shooting stroke but no ability to drive, slash, or handle.

Keldon is a driving slasher who gets to the rim but isn't an elite athlete or shooter.
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James also could not pass the ball at UK. One of the worst.
 
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I think once Keldon matures a bit he’s going to be a baller. He has an intensity to his game that Young was missing.
 
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HoptownCat93 said:
I kept thinking of the comparison for Keldon all year. And the James Young comparison stuck. Different games...but similar position.

James was very talented and did big things at time...but just never fully put it together in his freshman year. When he declared....we knew he was good enough and should go...but knew he wasn't ready and it showed in the league.

That's how I feel about Keldon....I think we never really saw him put it all together. Now James had that dunk in the title game that will go down forever. We as fans saw the potential and were waiting for them to break through and be the exciting piece....but it never came. We loved them, but just never had that moment where we bought in...

I think Keldon, like James Young, will get drafted high because he has a pro body and potential skill set....but I don't think he is ready on day 1. Will he last? Who knows?
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Never really understood why so many leave and maybe get drafted and make some cash but then they are in the d leaguenor playing over seas. It's like they are in anhureynto get there but dont worry if they are good enough to stay. Cal knows and I wonder if he tells them the truth
 
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sluggercatfan

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23jumpboy said:
Young wouldn't pass, couldn't play defense, and had no right hand. Pitiful choice turning pro.
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Why? Does JY ever go higher than 17? I think not...If KJ goes 15-17 I don't think he's coming back either, but I think he'll be ok. KJ must get much stronger.
 
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HagginHall1999

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I like Keldon a lot...he is not ready for the NBA.

It isn't to say he shouldn't go if he is a lottery pick, but either way he isn't ready.

He is 100% the definition of a guy that needs to come back and improve his game. He is less ready than Tyler IMO.

Hope KJ comes back and improves defensively and offensive consistency....helps us win #9.
 
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HoptownCat93 said:
I kept thinking of the comparison for Keldon all year. And the James Young comparison stuck. Different games...but similar position.

James was very talented and did big things at time...but just never fully put it together in his freshman year. When he declared....we knew he was good enough and should go...but knew he wasn't ready and it showed in the league.

That's how I feel about Keldon....I think we never really saw him put it all together. Now James had that dunk in the title game that will go down forever. We as fans saw the potential and were waiting for them to break through and be the exciting piece....but it never came. We loved them, but just never had that moment where we bought in...

I think Keldon, like James Young, will get drafted high because he has a pro body and potential skill set....but I don't think he is ready on day 1. Will he last? Who knows?
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He’s smarter and plays harder than Young. Keldon will stick in the league, although he’s not ready now. Young never had a chance. He never got it.
 
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FrankUnderwood said:
How can someone be a freak athlete but not be able to slash , drive or dribble ?
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It always baffled me because it's one thing you can absolutely work on, do drills for, and become better at. Some guys just never do. Just like Alex Poythress. That guy was a tight handle away from being a lottery pick. Instead, he let it turn him into a guy who barely made the league.
 
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GonzoCat90

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UK90 said:
So, if the reason for his crappy shooting percentages is supposedly just because his handle prevents him from getting open looks, then why does he ALSO have crappy free throw percentages (career 56 percent)? ALL free throws are open looks. Can you explain how a poor handle somehow makes one miss free throws?

Young is no longer an NBA player for a lot of reasons that go well beyond just his handle. He's not a good shooter, defender, passer or ballhandler. The reason he was drafted so high is because he had excellent size, athleticism and wingspan for a shooting guard, and a nice looking stroke. Thus scouts thought he had a lot of potential to develop into a much better player in the future.

But that did not happen.
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I'm aware of his game. I'm saying the single biggest problem he had/has is terrible ball handling skills. It doesn't mean he's a good defender or passer or shooter or anything else.

I can explain to you how his handle contributes to only creating 3% of his own made shots in his entire career, or how a guy with his athletic profile only attempted 48 free throws in four seasons.

Your second paragraph is what my original post said.
 
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CatsPaws270

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Bluegrassking said:
Also, arguably the worst non big man passer I've ever seen and a less than average passer.

Give me Johnson every time unless it is a dunk contest or some such.
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Young always looked like he was swatting flies when he made a pass...just a weird flick of the wrist.
 
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HoptownCat93 said:
I kept thinking of the comparison for Keldon all year. And the James Young comparison stuck. Different games...but similar position.

James was very talented and did big things at time...but just never fully put it together in his freshman year. When he declared....we knew he was good enough and should go...but knew he wasn't ready and it showed in the league.

That's how I feel about Keldon....I think we never really saw him put it all together. Now James had that dunk in the title game that will go down forever. We as fans saw the potential and were waiting for them to break through and be the exciting piece....but it never came. We loved them, but just never had that moment where we bought in...

I think Keldon, like James Young, will get drafted high because he has a pro body and potential skill set....but I don't think he is ready on day 1. Will he last? Who knows?
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Soupbean

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Good take. Keldon has all the skills a killler instinct and energy, just needs to get a better feel for the game. How to create good shots, how to find space, when to drive vs. when to pull up in space and shoot etc. And see the floor better and become a better passer. Some of that comes with calming his head to slow the game down but then again he doesnt want to lose his aggressiveness either. But if he learns to do all that I'd want him on my NBA team right now.
 
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uk78_rivals88018

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The fact that the NBA drafts on perceived potential renders outcomes observed on the court, especially concerning Freshman, practically meaningless. Neither Herro (physically) or Johnson (shooting consistency) are ready. It doesn't matter. The best was Orton who got like 10 minutes at the most playing time with no awesome performances getting drafted should tell you everything. If Johnson and Herro dont have the sense to see the difference of Freshman P.J. to Sophomore P.J. then their impatience will totally risk their longterm future as it did for James Young.
 
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