Keep Whipple has HC no brainer

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Fire Frost, you don't publicly blame your OC for your loss of the team. Come on Trev, get it together! Imagine how Whipple could recruit to NU with his NFL pedigree. Frost needs to go & Whipple needs to take over with the understanding that he has the rest of the year to show real improvement.
 
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joeydavid

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Fire Frost, you don't publicly blame your OC for your loss of the team. Come on Trev, get it together! Imagine how Whipple could recruit to NU with his NFL pedigree. Frost needs to go

Lol Coach Whip doesn't recruit much, if at all.
 

4-3 D

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Coordinators frequently don't, sometimes that is understood when they are hired as part of the deal, but his NFL pedigree will help NU. Frosts ego is hurting NU, he needs to go and should have after the last loss.

Going public with his blame is shockingly childish and not a leader. Wakeup Trev.
 
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Huskerfan2112

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Coordinators frequently don't, sometimes that is understood when they are hired as part of the deal, but his NFL pedigree will help NU. Frosts ego is hurting NU, he needs to go and should have after the last loss.

Going public with his blame is shockingly childish and not a leader. Wakeup Trev.
Agreed
 

Swiv3D

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Fire frost but don't give Whipple reigns. He's here for fun anyways, he isn't looking to take over
 

HominidHusker

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Trying to put emotions aside, just objectively speaking, I am a little confused on what Frost’s actual role is. I know many schools use HC in similar role, but here’s my take:
1. He wanted to spend more time with Special Teams and gave us the “everyone in the country knows” wrong call.
2. He wanted to spend more time with Defense that struggled mightily to know their assignments getting gashed by what last year was a lowly offense.
3. Not calling plays, but throwing his guys under the bus, when he should have been overseeing that as well (general run play strategy, not play calling).
4. Handling pressers with repeat blunders over the years, the latest being #3.
5. Overseeing general player development. Most offensive production came from transfers, defense was a mess despite many guys with years in the program. OL very shaky. Etc.
5. Maybe some recruiting? Is one of the highest ranked local talents in years Malachi Coleman gonna come to the sinking ship with the expectation Frost is on his way out and an uncertain future staff-wise? ….a consequence that really hurts us, like when Riley started picking up serious recruiting momentum before tanking his final season.
6. Glue holding team together? These kids have to be losing faith in the guy going on 5 years of abject failure, with no end in sight.
7. Promoting fan support? See 1 through 6.

So what exactly is his salary producing for us other than losses and (national) laughs? There may be some business analyst type folks that could do some of the general coordination duties for 1/10 the price tag.
I’m just failing to see what he brings to the program at all beyond negative media attention for being the prodigal son who’s failed miserably.
And I wanted nothing more than for him to succeed, but he’s clearly just not the guy.
 

rucker4

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Fire Frost, you don't publicly blame your OC for your loss of the team. Come on Trev, get it together! Imagine how Whipple could recruit to NU with his NFL pedigree. Frost needs to go & Whipple needs to take over with the understanding that he has the rest of the year to show real improvement.
Whipple is 65 and he's never been a HC but yet he's the answer as the HC now? Some of you make no sense whatsoever.
 

JOHNNY N

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He didn't blame Whipple for the loss.


You can find plenty of reasons to fire Frost. You don't have to make things up.
 

BleedRed78

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Whipple is 65 and he's never been a HC but yet he's the answer as the HC now? Some of you make no sense whatsoever.
You've just proven you don't know what you're talking about. He was HC of UMass for what, years?? Probably somewhere else I'm forgetting I've read about?
 

BleedRed78

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He didn't blame Whipple for the loss.


You can find plenty of reasons to fire Frost. You don't have to make things up.
He kinda did actually. It would seem we need to build a while detailed resume of errors to finally force the firing, no?
 

rucker4

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You've just proven you don't know what you're talking about. He was HC of UMass for what, years?? Probably somewhere else I'm forgetting I've read about?
UMass? That's worse than Frost's time at UCF. UMass isn't the B1G but I understand people like you lose their minds when you are beyond crazy in desperation.
 

rucker4

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He kinda did actually. It would seem we need to build a while detailed resume of errors to finally force the firing, no?
No he didn't. We get your Frost is a villian mentality, but be at least reasonable.
 

JOHNNY N

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He kinda did actually. It would seem we need to build a while detailed resume of errors to finally force the firing, no?
He really didn't. He said he needs to be more creative in the run game.

Again, people don't need to make things up. His W/L stats give all the reasons needed.
 

rucker4

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He really didn't. He said he needs to be more creative in the run game.

Again, people don't need to make things up. His W/L stats give all the reasons needed.
What's happened on these boards since Saturday's loss is you see the separation between those with a level head and understand the game well and those fanatics who sit on their couch and just gripe about everything and come up with outlandish statements. Easy to distinguish the difference.
 
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What's happened on these boards since Saturday's loss is you see that Iowa fans are obsessed with Husker football. Iowa fans wake up the.morning after every husker loss thinking to themselves, “this is the loss that will make Nebraska fans like and respect us Iowa turds” and then it doesn’t happen and I get triggered. I will never understand that I shouldn’t try and troll the greatest college football fans (Nebraska) because they constantly beat me down and make me look like the POS I am.
 

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IowaFans-r-Buffoons said:

I agree with you Rucker and I'm one of them. What's happened on these boards since Saturday's loss is you see the separation between those with a level head and understand the game well and those fanatics who sit on their couch and just gripe about everything and come up with outlandish statements. Easy to distinguish the difference.
 

rucker4

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IowaFans_R_Buffoons said:

I really wish I could just admit my obsession with big brother Iowa and move on, but I can’t because an Iowa fan stole my girlfriend and insulted my fat mom.
 

rucker4

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@IowaFansAreBuffoons you need to stop and look at yourself and think, "here you are, a grown man I assume, creating an account this morning on a message board because you are so consumed with Iowa. As bad as that is, it';s the levels you went to in order to play into your addiction that's hilarious. Seriously, this meltdown of yours is funny as hell. Now it's just wondering what your main account you go by here is you.
 

mgbreeze

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I'm looking forward to Frost being fired. But to think or hope that he's going to get fired NOW, after one game, is just idiotic. They didn't make the money-based decision to retain him last year to NOW fire him one game into the season. So put on your big boy pants and stop whining and suffer through this season like the rest of us.
 

BigB87

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If I were going to take a chance on somebody currently on staff, it wouldn't be Whipple. I'd give Joseph the last half of the season as interim HC, see what he can do. Maybe catch lightning in a bottle like Clemson did with Dabo Swinney, as he was also a position coach pre-promotion.
 

HUSKERFAN66

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No thanks. I think whips might be a good guy and coordinator, but if there's a firing it's time to quit screwing around and we're going to need an out of the park bases loaded home run hire
 

rucker4

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IowaFans_R_Buffoons said:

I need to understand that nobody wants me here and I don’t belong here because of my tiring act. I bring nothing but the same tired turd talking points. I’m a terrible person. I also need to create another screenname today or several because others have caught on to what I'm doing here.
 
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IowaFans_R_Buffoons is destroying me and I can’t compete. I should give up my lame attempt to troll the best fans in college football (Nebraska), but I only have an IQ of 70 and no impulse control. Everyone knows there’s only one way to deal with Iowa trash, you just have to troll iowa trolls there’s no sense in trying to have a discussion with such idiots.
 

rucker4

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IowaFans_R_Buffoons said:

Rucker4 is destroying me and I can’t compete. I should give up my lame attempt to troll the best fans in college football (Iowa), but I only have an IQ of 70 and no impulse control. Everyone knows there’s only one way to deal with Nebraska trash, you just have troll Nebraska trolls there’s no sense in trying to have a discussion with such idiots.
 
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I know Nebraska fans probably hate this on their board, but I refuse to stop as I like getting my teeth kicked in. Maybe I should come up with something that’s not a lame Iowa douche talking point, nah I’m an Iowa douche all I have are douchey talking points.
 

mikecanale

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Trying to put emotions aside, just objectively speaking, I am a little confused on what Frost’s actual role is. I know many schools use HC in similar role, but here’s my take:
1. He wanted to spend more time with Special Teams and gave us the “everyone in the country knows” wrong call.
2. He wanted to spend more time with Defense that struggled mightily to know their assignments getting gashed by what last year was a lowly offense.
3. Not calling plays, but throwing his guys under the bus, when he should have been overseeing that as well (general run play strategy, not play calling).
4. Handling pressers with repeat blunders over the years, the latest being #3.
5. Overseeing general player development. Most offensive production came from transfers, defense was a mess despite many guys with years in the program. OL very shaky. Etc.
5. Maybe some recruiting? Is one of the highest ranked local talents in years Malachi Coleman gonna come to the sinking ship with the expectation Frost is on his way out and an uncertain future staff-wise? ….a consequence that really hurts us, like when Riley started picking up serious recruiting momentum before tanking his final season.
6. Glue holding team together? These kids have to be losing faith in the guy going on 5 years of abject failure, with no end in sight.
7. Promoting fan support? See 1 through 6.

So what exactly is his salary producing for us other than losses and (national) laughs? There may be some business analyst type folks that could do some of the general coordination duties for 1/10 the price tag.
I’m just failing to see what he brings to the program at all beyond negative media attention for being the prodigal son who’s failed miserably.
And I wanted nothing more than for him to succeed, but he’s clearly just not the guy.
Response to # 6: "Yet, they have played their hearts out for him in every game for the last five years."
You may have lost faith in him, but his players haven't. Even though his record is abysmal here, these kids still remain loyal and highly motivated. Frost is, and always be, a "player's coach".
 

mgbreeze

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Response to # 6: "Yet, they have played their hearts out for him in every game for the last five years."
You may have lost faith in him, but his players haven't. Even though his record is abysmal here, these kids still remain loyal and highly motivated. Frost is, and always be, a "player's coach".
You say this based on what? Since we're just dealing in opinions here, I totally disagree. I think the smart players are weary of playing hard and watching Frost's stupid decisions piss away games. You think it wasn't demoralizing for the offense to fight back to an 11 point lead and the instant they get off the field Frost calls that onside kick? I hate trite sayings like "one play doesn't win or lose a football game." Yes it does. All the time. Frost lost that game.
 

HominidHusker

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Response to # 6: "Yet, they have played their hearts out for him in every game for the last five years."
You may have lost faith in him, but his players haven't. Even though his record is abysmal here, these kids still remain loyal and highly motivated. Frost is, and always be, a "player's coach".
I don’t completely disagree, but there’s different angles to take.
It’s true our players have generally fought hard til the end and shown up each week. Credit to them, but also related to many close games or games with leads before they turn to L’s.
Also true the majority of our attrition has been guys you expect to leave (good attrition) plus Florida guys, but that’s a whole other issue cus Florida guys tend to quit before they start.
The staff seem to have done well establishing culture in that regard by all accounts.

I was more speaking of fear from this point forward, what’s gonna happen in the locker room. When play calling, time management, personnel, practice and development decisions have lead to nothing but losses for 5 years. The jacka** in me would question the players’ competence if they don’t wonder how the Minnesotas, Iowas, Purdues, Illinois, Northwesterns and just about every other school with either similar or lesser talent are managing to win games while they’re not. If they’re not having doubts about that, then the loser culture has taken firm root.

Too many games in 4 years+ where the one score losses point to something going wrong in coaching decisions somewhere along the way. The players deserve better.

But I hope we never see any quit in them as that’s the worst thing to witness.