Keep an eye on Carvin today

[57stratdawg]

Unofficially OV’ed UF this weekend. Hopefully we can get through today without a verbal to UF.

 

[shotgunDawg]

I wasn’t aware that this was a concern.

From all indications, staying close to home is very important to him.

Are you hearing differently?

 

[Willow Grove Dawg]

Steve & Paul have been pretty adamant that he would not go that far from home, but you know HEVESY.

 

[shotgunDawg]

I realize many may disagree with this, but I believe Dan’s recruitment of our players is a real ethical conundrum.

The relationship he built with those players was developed while being paid by MSU. I realize this happens in business every day, but their are far more customers than quality recruits.

Dan’s recruitment of MSU recruits really hurts MSU because the new staff doesn’t really have time to go after new guys.

 

[Dogariffic]

Agree 100%
And this magnified by the point that Moorhead has said he won’t go after Penn State recruits.
I know this is a good class for MSU but had no idea Florida would be that interested in our 3 star and few 4 star players.
Also Carvin has not committed to anyone so that is a bit different....

 

[shotgunDawg]

Agree 100%
And this magnified by the point that Moorhead has said he won’t go after Penn State recruits.
I know this is a good class for MSU but had no idea Florida would be that interested in our 3 star and few 4 star players.
Also Carvin has not committed to anyone so that is a bit different....

FWIW Chad Morris has flipped 2 SMU recruits to Arkansas so it isn’t just Dan.

We may should be asking why Moorhead isn’t recruiting Penn State players rather than blaming Don or Morris

 

[thf24]

I realize many may disagree with this, but I believe Dan’s recruitment of our players is a real ethical conundrum.

The relationship he built with those players was developed while being paid by MSU. I realize this happens in business every day, but their are far more customers than quality recruits.

Dan’s recruitment of MSU recruits really hurts MSU because the new staff doesn’t really have time to go after new guys.

Here's an alternate take I just started thinking about. If a recruit follows a coach to a new school without much difficulty, that means he was committed for the most part to the coach instead of the original school. That being the case, a coach coming after his previous job's commits may actually be doing the new staff a favor by clearing the board of recruits/commits who didn't really want to be there for any presently existing reasons, making room for others who do.

 

[Leeshouldveflanked]

When Dan came to MSU he didn't recruit any of Florida's recruits.

 

[Msubulldogfan1]

Kiffin did it going from UT to USC. Franklin from vandy to PSU. That’s off the top of my head.

 

[philduckworth]

When Dan came to MSU he didn't recruit any of Florida's recruits.

he's only stolen a kicker so far.

 

[Carbaryl]

We only have three maybe four more spots in the class right now,so it's tough to add new names.

 

[PineGroveBully]

I have thought about that. When you leave say an accounting firm you can't poach relationships created while on the clock at the former firm because of a no compete clause. If I was an AD I would consider asking a newly hired coach to sign a non compete clause saying if he left for another SEC school he couldn't contact former recruits. Don't know how you would enforce it though. But on a legal standpoint unless the coach made the contacts on personal time using personal phones I think the school would have a legal argument.

 

[bulldognation]

Luke did it from OM to... wait. Oh yeah, he’s losing players to Michigan.

 

[paindonthurt_]

Get over it

 

[MaroonNation]

I think it shows that Mullen is willing to pull kids from here to Florida to mask the fact that he with is unwilling or can’t connect with, the type of recruits Florida wants.

 

[hatfieldms]

No coach is going to sign a non compete on recruiting if he leaves

 

[Bucky Dog]

Along these lines, I hear UT's new coaches paid Marcus a visit this weekend. Any worries there?

 

[PineGroveBully]

I know that, he would have to sign it when he signed the contract at the original school saying if you leave for a conference school you can make no contact with players you formed ties with while be paid by the original school using said school's resources. If a coach wanted the job at the original school he'd sign it in a heartbeat, esp if being offered $3-6M/ per.