Keelan Smith

HuskerO58

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It's really not that hard to see. Most of the time, it doesn't take more than 30 seconds to figure out the caliber of player someone is. I didn't watch this guy but I did watch our 5.5 3 star receiver, and yes, he was appropriately rated.
Which of our 28 commits will be the high caliber players and which of our 28 won't be?
 
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Which of our 28 commits will be the high caliber players and which of our 28 won't be?

 

oldjar07

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30 seconds? Lofl, that confirms it, you're a clown.
It's not complicated. Yes, it only takes 30 seconds to judge if a guy has P5 talent or not. It's people who don't understand anything that always try to overcomplicate things. When you truly understand something, it becomes simple, and you can evaluate things quickly. There's many areas where this applies in my life because I have the cognitive capabilities and take the time and effort to truly understand things to begin with. I guess this is something you wouldn't understand.
 

oldjar07

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I've seen that number from one poster who is widely known for fabricating such things.

that said, I don't care what he runs today. it's what he runs when he's ready that matters.
Fabricates just about everything, yes.
 

steinek11

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Apr 18, 2004
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I can’t rewatch Rhule’s presser right now. I may be mistaken on who he was talking about running the 4.42 at camp.

Edit. Rhule didn’t give his 40 time but they offered after he ran the 40 for them and did drills. The 4.42 time I must have heard on the radio this morning. Guys that tall can be deceptive.
You know who is tall and could run like a gazelle? Randy Moss
 

JOHNNY N

Heisman
Sep 24, 2003
109,994
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It's not complicated. Yes, it only takes 30 seconds to judge if a guy has P5 talent or not. It's people who don't understand anything that always try to overcomplicate things. When you truly understand something, it becomes simple, and you can evaluate things quickly. There's many areas where this applies in my life because I have the cognitive capabilities and take the time and effort to truly understand things to begin with. I guess this is something you wouldn't understand.
But it's clear you don't understand football.
 

JOHNNY N

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Sep 24, 2003
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Aren’t you the guy who suggested defenses would gladly let receivers run uncovered every play?
Nope. I'm the guy that understands you don't just "formation" defenses out of what they want to do when your offense gets nearly zero from the passing game.

Pretty sure you replied in that thread that I'm right.
 

king_kong_

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Nope. I'm the guy that understands you don't just "formation" defenses out of what they want to do when your offense gets nearly zero from the passing game.

Pretty sure you replied in that thread that I'm right.
Yea. You definitely know football.

Nobody would ever cover 4 WRs split wide if it’s not what they want to do
 

Huskers123456

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If Clark runs a legit 4.42 that I've seen on here with that frame..... To much potential to pass up being a legacy
Article in a Montana paper said 4.46 at the NU camp. No idea what his 40 really is. It said Rhule pulled him aside after watching him in drills and ran him 1 on 1, offering him on the spot afterward. Good enough for me, he's 6'5 205 at a high school in Bozeman. So he's going to be 6'5 220 by our first game after time in our program.
 

JOHNNY N

Heisman
Sep 24, 2003
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right.

like defending an outside the hashes 2x2 formation with 8+ in the box.

standard football stuff. see it every week at every level.

Laughing
It's not surprisingly you're struggling to comprehend what I'm saying. It does require some basic critical thinking skills.
 

king_kong_

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It's not surprisingly you're struggling to comprehend what I'm saying. It does require some basic critical thinking skills.
I understand the below perfectly.
you don't just "formation" defenses out of what they want to do when your offense gets nearly zero from the passing game.
it's just incorrect.

if you believe a defense will put 8+ in the box regardless of offensive formation, you're wrong.

plain and simple.

we finished 2nd in the league in rushing mostly because we formationed defensive players out of the box with spread looks.

we sure as **** couldn't just line up and run right at people out of power formations.
 

JOHNNY N

Heisman
Sep 24, 2003
109,994
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I understand the below perfectly.

it's just incorrect.

if you believe a defense will put 8+ in the box regardless of offensive formation, you're wrong.

plain and simple.

we finished 2nd in the league in rushing mostly because we formationed defensive players out of the box with spread looks.

we sure as **** couldn't just line up and run right at people out of power formations.
Sure sounds like you're saying satterfield's pretty good at his job.
 

JOHNNY N

Heisman
Sep 24, 2003
109,994
39,220
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He, unlike you, seems to have at least taken Intro to Basic Football
That's weird, because just until a few posts ago your stance has been he's a backwards hillbilly that doesn't know football and is unqualified for his job.

I guess contradicting yourself is just part of your shtick around here.
 

king_kong_

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That's weird, because just until a few posts ago your stance has been he's a backwards hillbilly that doesn't know football and is unqualified for his job.

I guess contradicting yourself is just part of your shtick around here.
Quote please?

He struggles with consistency. He struggles with game planning. Turnovers follow him around like his shadow.

I guess when you’re wrong you put words in people’s mouths and attempt to change the subject instead of putting your hand up.

Very typical around here, where even on an anonymous message board nobody but me can admit when they’re wrong.
 

JOHNNY N

Heisman
Sep 24, 2003
109,994
39,220
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Quote please?

He struggles with consistency. He struggles with game planning. Turnovers follow him around like his shadow.

I guess when you’re wrong you put words in people’s mouths and attempt to change the subject instead of putting your hand up.

Very typical around here, where even on an anonymous message board nobody but me can admit when they’re wrong.


You've made threads about the subject. Putting words into people's mouths is your game. You do it in just about every thread.


I bet if you search your name and Satterfield you'll have all the examples you'll need.
 
Nov 27, 2001
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Nope. I'm the guy that understands you don't just "formation" defenses out of what they want to do when your offense gets nearly zero from the passing game.

Pretty sure you replied in that thread that I'm right.
Yeah, you should stop digging a hole for yourself on this one. 11 minus 4 equals 7. It was a pretty simple point and you keep doubling down as if defenses have 12 or 13 guys on the field.
 

JOHNNY N

Heisman
Sep 24, 2003
109,994
39,220
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Yeah, you should stop digging a hole for yourself on this one. 11 minus 4 equals 7. It was a pretty simple point and you keep doubling down as if defenses have 12 or 13 guys on the field.
Digging? I'm only saying you can draw the x's and o's where ever you like. The defense isn't gonna do want you want if you can't throw the ball.

it's weird that some aren't grasping that concept.
 

king_kong_

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Digging? I'm only saying you can draw the x's and o's where ever you like. The defense isn't gonna do want you want if you can't throw the ball.

it's weird that some aren't grasping that concept.
yea they’ll just leave guys uncovered

Happens all the time

This guy knows football, folks
 
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Digging? I'm only saying you can draw the x's and o's where ever you like. The defense isn't gonna do want you want if you can't throw the ball.

it's weird that some aren't grasping that concept.
Sure, after the snap. But the original point was that even with man coverage if you split 2x2 the D can’t have 8 or 9 in the box, unless they want to leave someone uncovered. So in that way they are doing what you want pre-snap.
 

JOHNNY N

Heisman
Sep 24, 2003
109,994
39,220
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Sure, after the snap. But the original point was that even with man coverage if you split 2x2 the D can’t have 8 or 9 in the box, unless they want to leave someone uncovered. So in that way they are doing what you want pre-snap.



After the snap is all that counts. Especially when the defense knows you can't throw the ball.

So again, you draw the x's and o's wherever you want. If the defense knows you ain't/can't gonna do **** out of those formations, they're not gonna do what you want.
 
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After the snap is all that counts. Especially when the defense knows you can't throw the ball.

So again, you draw the x's and o's wherever you want. If the defense knows you ain't/can't gonna do **** out of those formations, they're not gonna do what you want.
Ok, let’s say a defense follows your strategy and leaves a WR uncovered. The QB throws a quick screen and you’ve got 2 on 1 in space. Seems like not a great strategy.
 

JOHNNY N

Heisman
Sep 24, 2003
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Ok, let’s say a defense follows your strategy and leaves a WR uncovered. The QB throws a quick screen and you’ve got 2 on 1 in space. Seems like not a great strategy.
Does the defense respect the offense enough to worry about the screen pass?
 

king_kong_

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After the snap is all that counts. Especially when the defense knows you can't throw the ball.

So again, you draw the x's and o's wherever you want. If the defense knows you ain't/can't gonna do **** out of those formations, they're not gonna do what you want.
here's a little tidbit your wife probably knows about football but you clearly don't:

guys spread wide to cover receivers aren't coming downhill to stop the run. the offense gets a head start & the 8th and 9th 'box' defenders have more ground to cover after the snap.

which is why it works.

and why you see it on every possession of every game on every Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday and Monday.

the top rushing team in the country is a spread team with a <60% passer at quarterback. guess what they don't face every play not because of "respect" - an ambiguous and meaningless word you insist on using - but because of formations:

that's right, 8/9 man boxes. even though the defense knows what the offense can and wants to do.
 

Trumplestiltskin

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Sep 7, 2018
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Article in a Montana paper said 4.46 at the NU camp. No idea what his 40 really is. It said Rhule pulled him aside after watching him in drills and ran him 1 on 1, offering him on the spot afterward. Good enough for me, he's 6'5 205 at a high school in Bozeman. So he's going to be 6'5 220 by our first game after time in our program.
Be too bad if he turns out to be half as valuable as our last Montana recruit(that I can remember), Marc Gilman….another one most probably said WTF??
 
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Shoot, if football evaluation is this easy, why are so many of yall on a free message board and not earning millions?

500 minutes to evaluate 1000 players. Shoot start a message board of your own and rate the players. Scout sold to 247 for like $9 million. If you have that much jack and your still spending your days on Rivals free message board, good on you.
 

dinglefritz

Heisman
Jan 14, 2011
51,387
12,801
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Article in a Montana paper said 4.46 at the NU camp. No idea what his 40 really is. It said Rhule pulled him aside after watching him in drills and ran him 1 on 1, offering him on the spot afterward. Good enough for me, he's 6'5 205 at a high school in Bozeman. So he's going to be 6'5 220 by our first game after time in our program.
They said that Benning and others had watched him and pestered Rhule to offer him. Rhule watched his video but wanted to see him in camp. Offered him on the field after working him out. Cool story that hopefully has a great run for 4-5 years more.
 

Huskers123456

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They said that Benning and others had watched him and pestered Rhule to offer him. Rhule watched his video but wanted to see him in camp. Offered him on the field after working him out. Cool story that hopefully has a great run for 4-5 years more.
Article from Montana where they interview him says he did really good at a 7 on 7 in Boise and got interviewed afterward. Said Nebraska was his dream school. Omar Hales found out and watched tape. After watching tape they asked him to come for the spring game. Didn't make the spring game but camped here. Pretty cool story.