Kansas and Big12
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Never trust a big 12 team to go deep.
Big game bob stoops (football) = Big game bill self (basketball). Both choke.
No doubt. Big12 football is a joke. I'm starting to think Big12 hoops is a one trick pony with a lame pony.
Unless Mario chambers comes back to KU, I'll never bet on them to win a title anytime soon.
Big 12 was so terrible that it only had 3 teams in Sweet Sixteen. Since no other conference had more, they must all be terrible.
The Big XXII went 4-2 in bowls this past season.
You are always spot on with your predictions.
Yeah, we were the only conference with 30% of its teams in the top 16.
But also, I never thought Kansas was all that. I really, really think WVU was the best team in the Big 12 and if not for our worst offensive shooting performance of the year, we would have coasted with double digit visits to the final four. We ARE 10 points better than Gonzaga on an average day, 15 points better on a good day.
South Carolina looks pretty good. Frank Martin following the Huggins pattern. Not sure we would have beaten them but still a good chance.
But also, I never thought Kansas was all that. I really, really think WVU was the best team in the Big 12 and if not for our worst offensive shooting performance of the year, we would have coasted with double digit visits to the final four. We ARE 10 points better than Gonzaga on an average day, 15 points better on a good day.
South Carolina looks pretty good. Frank Martin following the Huggins pattern. Not sure we would have beaten them but still a good chance.
Wow, you're spinning like a top. You posted over and over again about the Big 12 getting FOUR, then THREE schools to the Final Four, so now the Sweet Sixteen is what matters? Only SEC fans have a reason to brag today. By the way, ONE Big 12 school has advanced to the Final Four since your alma mater joined the Big 12 FIVE years ago.
The Big 12 wasn't terrible. Getting 3 teams to the sweet 16 isn't anything to be ashamed of but you can't say the confernce was any better than the Big 10, Sec or Pac 12. The Big 12 had a losing record head to head against the Big 10. The sec placed 3 teams in the elite 8 and was 6-5 against the big 12 if you count the games from the sec/Big 12 challege and the usc win over Baylor. The pac 12 was 1-1 against the big 12 in the tourney and Oregon beat Kansas in Kansas city which is only 50 miles from lawerence. The big 12 was probably the 3rd or 4th best conference which it usually is. When you were throwing out the possibility of the big 12 getting 4 teams to the Final four I thought it was just wishful thinking. It will probably never happen an if it does it won't be the big 12 that does it. The confernce doesn't have the depth or consistancy to pull that off. Do you really think Kansas would win the Acc as many years in a row as they won the Big 12 with Duke and UNC to beat out? How about the Sec with Kentucky? or the Big 10 with Michigan state. We have talked ourself about possible having a chance at the Big 12 title the last 3 seasons. Did we ever have a 3 years stretch like that in the old big east?
Good post, Colorado, but don't forget about my Buckeyes (easy to do these days), which have won five B1G regular season championships during Kansas' streak. No way that Kansas would have won the 2006-07 B1G Title over national runner-up Ohio State.
I mean maybe a joke is a bit rough but literally everyone in America outside of Big12 homers views Big12 football as worse P5 by a mile.
Please don't defend Big12 football and act like I'm posting something that isn't reported and stated every weekend each Fall. Major homer alert.
They didn't make the NCAAs this year sir. Thoughts on why the Big12 deserves any considerations for best conference despite underachieving every year?
Agree with you that Big12 obviously wasn't bad. Obviously Big12 is excellent and has been for decades!!! I laugh at the Big12 homers that think Big12 is unquestionablely the best hoop conference LOL!!! Big12 has had one school make the Final Four since WVU joined the league. Only 2 Elite 8 teams(actually 1 team) past two years. There's no legit argument Big12 hoops is anything other than a solid hoop league.
REALLY??? How many of this EVERYONE have you queried? How many of them (including you) are truly capable of making all the necessary assessments of teams and their combination into a conference, looking at more than the usual superficial information, and come to a meaningful conclusion? How many of the same suspect group base any of their decisions on scant, generally meaningless opinions of those serving as analysts on TV who are also inept and ill equipped to be believed?
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Whatsamatta - sPitt lose all its BBall players or something
Oh wait - they did!
True I forgot about OSU. Michigan state came to mind because of the young team they had this year.
Our best years were in the Big East. Fans got sold out for $$. We went from dominating a equally strong conference where fans didnt have to remortgage the house to go to away games to the Big West. Left Madison Square Garden for a city in SEC country.
We didn't sell out for money. Luck knew the Big East was falling apart. We went to B12 because it was the only league that would take us.
Are you saying WVU hoops dominated Big East basketball? Please tell me that's not what you just posted. SEC means Southeast haha!!
Right after I hear your thoughts on which BIG school will land Narduzzi after Pitt's second consecutive holiday trip to sunny NYC.
No. Im saying it was a better time going to Madison Square Garden watching WVU play against the old big east teams. I should of differentiated football and basketball part of that I guess.
Gotcha thanks!! Totally agree! I know WVU didn't have a choice and had to join the Big12. Just sucks! Kansas, KSU, Iowa St, Texas Tech, Okie St, TCU and Baylor have absolutely no value for WVU. Little towns in the middle of nowhere that no one ever cares to visit. No one in America cares about those football programs. As for hoops only Kansas matters natioanally.
Good one!
Again thoughts on why homers on this site think Big12 hoops is best in the country LOL?
I still say you are hater. People do care about the Big 12! Evidently you are jealous of us, along with that luckeye fan, or you would not spend all of your time here trying to convince us that we are not good in anything, and that our conference sucks.
You mean you need someone to explain to you why fans support their schools and their schools' conferences? You really are a Pitt alum.
Nope! The school part is obvious! Everyone does that one. But the conference thing is for the weak and insecure. Any other thoughts on why the homers think the Big12 hoops is top conference dog even though it craps the bed as a one trick pony? Take all of the conferences and it's a mixed bag. Only a Big12 homer would see it any different.
Thoughts?
for WVUThe poster that communicated only Kansas has value nationally is delusional.
We should have a sports IQ test before allowing posters to post with posters of "authentic" sports pedigrees. It's counter productive to those who want to bring value to this board.
Texas is a legitimate big time program. Shaka has them on the verge.
Oklahoma is a legitimate program. OU will be a tournament team next year and made Final Four last year.
Kansas State has a historically great tradition. Oklahoma State as well in spite of losing their coach.
Jamie Dixon has TCU going places. Iowa State is top 20-30 program.
WVU will be Big 12 pre season favorites next year and top 5-7 in nation pre season.
We should have a sports IQ test before allowing posters to post with posters of "authentic" sports pedigrees. It's counter productive to those who want to bring value to this board.
Texas is a legitimate big time program. Shaka has them on the verge.
Oklahoma is a legitimate program. OU will be a tournament team next year and made Final Four last year.
Kansas State has a historically great tradition. Oklahoma State as well in spite of losing their coach.
Jamie Dixon has TCU going places. Iowa State is top 20-30 program.
WVU will be Big 12 pre season favorites next year and top 5-7 in nation pre season.
LOL on everything except WVU! If Kansas played with the heart and guts that WVU plays with they would compete for the National Title every year. Good luck rooting for KSU and TCU. Hey didn't Texas suck A this year. On the verge!!!!? LOL
So if the weak and insecure focus on their conferences what does it say about a person who focuses--obsesses--on a conference his team isn't in?
Also why are you avoiding discussing Pitt and focused on conferences. Weak.
Fluffer Holgorsen Disciple Cajuneer if you are going to antagonize the pitt fan then stick to Basketball. Fluffer Holgosen has nothing on Narduzzi. Narduzzi beat Penn state and then Clemson on the road which were 2 big wins for the program. Fluffer Holgorsen hasn't won a big game since the 2014 Baylor game. Anyone who's lives in Texas like myself knows Baylor was nothing more than another over rated Big 12 program that's never accomplished anything. Briles biggest bowl game was the Fiesta. Baylor got curb stomped By Central Florida. Yes that's right CENTRAL FLORIDA not Fsu UF or miami. If Narduzzi does get poached. Pitt fans can say someone actually wanted their coach. Unlike the Bum currently wearing the head set on the sideline of Wvu Football games. Lsu wanted Fisher or Herman they never wanted your messiah. I know you have told us many a time that they choose Coach O because they didn't want to disturb The continuity of the program. That is nothing but hogwash they passed on holgorsen because his record doesn't equate to big time and anybody who's a fan of the blood bloods would tell you they wouldn't want fluffer holgorsen as their coach. Those programs expect championships every year not second and third rate bowl games like Holgorsen gives us.
Big 12 basketball is a joke. Outside of Kansas there are no blue blood programs. Texas a big time program? Get real they haven't been to a final four since 2003. Oklahoma had a 15 year gap between Final Fours. Kansas state a great tradition? really they went 12 years without a post season birth of any kind. It was Frank martin that got that program moving again. Frank Martin had allot of success at K state and what does he do? He leaves it for what was a broke dick South Carolina program. Martin and underwood are living proof of what coaches actually think about the Big 12. If you actually lived in Big 12 country like myself you would no the truth.
The SEC has no blue blood programs outside of Kentucky.
The Big East has no blue blood programs either.
You're flailing.