Kamala Harris lies again.....

[bornaneer]

Sen. Kamala Harris, D-Calif., a 2020 presidential hopeful, is under fire for claiming that lower tax refunds are a sign that the Trump tax cuts are “a middle-class tax hike” -- something a top fact-checker described as “nonsensical and misleading.”
But, as fact checkers quickly pointed out, the size of one’s refund has more to do with how much was withheld for taxes over the course of the year rather than one’s overall tax burden.
“Boy, talk about a non sequitur that turns out to be nonsensical and misleading,” The Washington Post’s Glenn Kessler said in a fiery fact-check.
Kessler noted that the 2017 tax law changed withholding tables and raised the standard deduction, while eliminating personal and dependent tax exemptions. “But the size of the tax refund has no bearing on whether a person’s taxes rose or fell,” he wrote.
“But Harris presented these facts without nuance or qualification, making it appear as though the smaller tax refunds were evidence of a tax hike on the middle class,” he wrote. “In reality, the size of a tax refund reflects nothing about the size of a tax cut or tax increase, the vast majority of middle-class Americans can expect to pay less in taxes as a result of the Trump tax law.”

 

[Original Mountaineer1]

Sen. Kamala Harris, D-Calif., a 2020 presidential hopeful, is under fire for claiming that lower tax refunds are a sign that the Trump tax cuts are “a middle-class tax hike” -- something a top fact-checker described as “nonsensical and misleading.”
But, as fact checkers quickly pointed out, the size of one’s refund has more to do with how much was withheld for taxes over the course of the year rather than one’s overall tax burden.
“Boy, talk about a non sequitur that turns out to be nonsensical and misleading,” The Washington Post’s Glenn Kessler said in a fiery fact-check.
Kessler noted that the 2017 tax law changed withholding tables and raised the standard deduction, while eliminating personal and dependent tax exemptions. “But the size of the tax refund has no bearing on whether a person’s taxes rose or fell,” he wrote.
“But Harris presented these facts without nuance or qualification, making it appear as though the smaller tax refunds were evidence of a tax hike on the middle class,” he wrote. “In reality, the size of a tax refund reflects nothing about the size of a tax cut or tax increase, the vast majority of middle-class Americans can expect to pay less in taxes as a result of the Trump tax law.”

The liberal press fact checking a dem........I thought this didn't happen....never happened. Liberal press blowing up AOC's crap too. What gives here????

 

[BoremanSouth]

Oh, so we're keeping track of lies now? Funny.

 

[tjebarr]

Oh, so we're keeping track of lies now? Funny.

like this whopper

Trump repeats dubious pledge to introduce middle-class tax cut before midterms
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/22/tru...uce-middle-class-tax-cut-before-midterms.html

 

[WVUBRU]

Oh, so we're keeping track of lies now? Funny.

Please forgive the OP'er. He is on a lot of right wing sites and gets only right wing email chains and is only interested in parroting that crap by slandering only one side on this board. But wait a few minutes......he will make the lie that he treats both sides equal. One of my favorites that gets repeated often.

 

[WVUCOOPER]

Oh, so we're keeping track of lies now? Funny.

Fact Checkers matter now? I'm so confused.

 

[boomerwv]

A Trump supporter talking about lies. ******* rich.

And it is a tax hike because it is saddeling the middle class with debt that they will eventually be the ones who have to deal with. The fiscally irresponsible Republican legacy.

 

[Original Mountaineer1]

Oh, so we're keeping track of lies now? Funny.

Those Harris lies are significantly more impactful to US National Security as: Denuclearization of North Korea is done; ISIS is defeated: I know more than my generals...............

 

[tjebarr]

Those Harris lies are significantly more impactful to US National Security as: Denuclearization of North Korea is done; ISIS is defeated: I know more than my generals...............

"I'm already building the wall"

 

[Pospecteer]

The only thing funny is that the libs actually have to fact check a report that talks about IRS refunds as if that is really a thing. It's like saying inflation is growing because you only got $3.45 in change back when you bought your last candy bar but got $8.45 back last time. Never mind that you used a $5 and not $10 bill when you bought them before.

 

[Original Mountaineer1]

The only thing funny is that the libs actually have to fact check a report that talks about IRS refunds as if that is really a thing. It's like saying inflation is growing because you only got $3.45 in change back when you bought your last candy bar but got $8.45 back last time. Never mind that you used a $5 and not $10 bill when you bought them before.

The point that you miss is that our POTUS lies about everything big and small and nobody on the right reacts. Fox news never fact checks him. His press secretary makes up lies to support Trump's lies. And the right cheers him on

 

[dave]

Please forgive the OP'er. He is on a lot of right wing sites and gets only right wing email chains and is only interested in parroting that crap by slandering only one side on this board. But wait a few minutes......he will make the lie that he treats both sides equal. One of my favorites that gets repeated often.

Please forgive DerpBru for claiming the Washington Post is a right wing email chain.

 

[tjebarr]

Please forgive DerpBru for claiming the Washington Post is a right wing email chain.

 

[dave]

Can you at least keep your responses on topic TJTard?

 

[Pospecteer]

The point that you miss is that our POTUS lies about everything big and small and nobody on the right reacts. Fox news never fact checks him. His press secretary makes up lies to support Trump's lies. And the right cheers him on

Yea, the right sure does have the news cycle covered...
Fox News-Right
NY/Wash Post- can't remember which one or both are right leaning.
CNN-Left
NBC-Left
CBS-Left
ABC-Left
MSNBC-Left
NPR-Left
BBC-Left leaning
Rueiters (spelling) left
Huff Post-Far left
NYT-far left
Politico-left
Buzzfeed-left
Christian Science Mon-Right (are they still in business?)

 

[eerdoc]

Sen. Kamala Harris, D-Calif., a 2020 presidential hopeful, is under fire for claiming that lower tax refunds are a sign that the Trump tax cuts are “a middle-class tax hike” -- something a top fact-checker described as “nonsensical and misleading.”
But, as fact checkers quickly pointed out, the size of one’s refund has more to do with how much was withheld for taxes over the course of the year rather than one’s overall tax burden.
“Boy, talk about a non sequitur that turns out to be nonsensical and misleading,” The Washington Post’s Glenn Kessler said in a fiery fact-check.
Kessler noted that the 2017 tax law changed withholding tables and raised the standard deduction, while eliminating personal and dependent tax exemptions. “But the size of the tax refund has no bearing on whether a person’s taxes rose or fell,” he wrote.
“But Harris presented these facts without nuance or qualification, making it appear as though the smaller tax refunds were evidence of a tax hike on the middle class,” he wrote. “In reality, the size of a tax refund reflects nothing about the size of a tax cut or tax increase, the vast majority of middle-class Americans can expect to pay less in taxes as a result of the Trump tax law.”

An idiotic Dem politician trying to gain advantage by relying on the ignorance of so many within the population. Spare the facts and lean heavily on twisted rhetoric that plays to the emotions. Read her factual Biographical sketch and realize just what a low life, slutty person she really is. See how she used these characteristics to move into and through her early political offices. The early days in the life of a politician seems to tell a lot about their character and the issues they may emphasize. We should pay mrs attention to this type information when heading to the ballot booth.

 

[moe]

An idiotic Dem politician trying to gain advantage by relying on the ignorance of so many within the population. Spare the facts and lean heavily on twisted rhetoric that plays to the emotions. Read her factual Biographical sketch and realize just what a low life, slutty person she really is. See how she used these characteristics to move into and through her early political offices. The early days in the life of a politician seems to tell a lot about their character and the issues they may emphasize. We should pay mrs attention to this type information when heading to the ballot booth.

You ignored it with Trump, why pay attention now?

 

[BoremanSouth]

You ignored it with Trump, why pay attention now?

When these dipshits elected Trump they set a whole new precedent for characteristics of POTUS. Now, they can ******* deal with it as far as I'm concerned.

 

[dave]

You ignored it with Trump, why pay attention now?

You called out Trump for it, why deflect now?

 

[Original Mountaineer1]

Yea, the right sure does have the news cycle covered...
Fox News-Right
NY/Wash Post- can't remember which one or both are right leaning.
CNN-Left
NBC-Left
CBS-Left
ABC-Left
MSNBC-Left
NPR-Left
BBC-Left leaning
Rueiters (spelling) left
Huff Post-Far left
NYT-far left
Politico-left
Buzzfeed-left
Christian Science Mon-Right (are they still in business?)

Don't start acting like ATL here. I have said for as long as I have been here that the media is left leaning or just plain left in some case. I realize that. You are changing the discussion topic.

 

[Airport]

Some San francisco homeless guys need to take a dump on her doorstep.

 

[dave]

When these dipshits elected Trump they set a whole new precedent for characteristics of POTUS. Now, they can ****ing deal with it as far as I'm concerned.

Ah......the smell of butthurt in the morning.

 

[Keyser76]

Ah......the smell of butthurt in the morning.

What time do you get up Potts? It's lunch time here in WV. lol

 

[dave]

What time do you get up Potts? It's lunch time here in WV. lol

Movie ref.....

Good grief. I should have known better.

 

[Pospecteer]

Don't start acting like ATL here. I have said for as long as I have been here that the media is left leaning or just plain left in some case. I realize that. You are changing the discussion topic.

So, what is the topic:

• Everyone lies, but Trump lies so much that he needs impeached for it. I guess this is the original claim.
• Trump lies a lot so the Dems get a pass.
• Trump lies a lot, so when the left lies, its' justified, (eye for an eye).
• The MSM media gave a wink and a nod to everyone before him, but "we" have had enough and he needs called out for it.

All of these topic's fit your narrative, and as long as it stay's in this realm, you feel your views are verified, and If I were you, I would want to keep status quo also.

No point to continue this discussion, because we all know politicians don't always tell the truth, including Trump.

 

[Original Mountaineer1]

So, what is the topic:

• Everyone lies, but Trump lies so much that he needs impeached for it. I guess this is the original claim.
• Trump lies a lot so the Dems get a pass.
• Trump lies a lot, so when the left lies, its' justified, (eye for an eye).
• The MSM media gave a wink and a nod to everyone before him, but "we" have had enough and he needs called out for it.

All of these topic's fit your narrative, and as long as it stay's in this realm, you feel your views are verified, and If I were you, I would want to keep status quo also.

No point to continue this discussion, because we all know politicians don't always tell the truth, including Trump.

We can start with you actually calling out any of Trump's BS. Go ahead. We will wait

 

[Pospecteer]

We can start with you actually calling out any of Trump's BS. Go ahead. We will wait

Ok, Let's do a one to one, i will post about Trump and you can post about the left...

• Trump said that he would build the wall...

 

[bornaneer]

Please forgive the OP'er. He is on a lot of right wing sites and gets only right wing email chains and is only interested in parroting that crap by slandering only one side on this board. But wait a few minutes......he will make the lie that he treats both sides equal. One of my favorites that gets repeated often.

Funny.....you really need to keep up with your medications. I have pointed out Trump telling lies many times on this board. It you can't handle it....you may want to get the *** off the board....assh*le.

 

[moe]

Funny.....you really need to keep up with your medications. I have pointed out Trump telling lies many times on this board. It you can't handle it....you may want to get the *** off the board....assh*le.

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

Not one liberal rebuttal in here to the article. It’s pretty funny too, it’s all bbbbbbbuuuuuuuuut Trump.

Hey TJ, that’s WaPo pushing all 8 inches of unclipped throbbing member unlubed right up your **** pipe.