Duke is dirty. Bagley, Duval, Barrett, Williamson. He could say it was all Capel but he would still have seasons wiped out and wins vacated. He’s not going to have his legacy tarnished. He’ll retire first. This scandal is very bad for his back.
K will retire before next year.
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Retire? He'll be forced to resign should it come out that he lost control of his assistant staff (Capel) for arranging to pay players. Or better yet, wouldn't it be fantastic to hear his name as being one of the coaches on the wire tapped calls arranging something?
Who would force him? NCAA? Nope. Dook? Nope. ESPN? Nope.
If you think the high and mighty coach K is going to get anything vacated from his legacy, then you haven’t been paying attention.
They will change the entire rule, saying that since he didn’t know it wasn’t his fault and nothing will be vacated. It doesn’t matter how much precedence they have, they will bow down before their ruler. Besides, when has the NCAA ever ruled based of precedence or any sort of consistency for that matter?
They will change the entire rule, saying that since he didn’t know it wasn’t his fault and nothing will be vacated. It doesn’t matter how much precedence they have, they will bow down before their ruler. Besides, when has the NCAA ever ruled based of precedence or any sort of consistency for that matter?
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There is no way Capel is not knee deep in this ish. He was caught dirty at Oklahoma.
Cam Reddish meeting with the agent and Lebron. bet he never plays a minute at Duke.
Cam Reddish meeting with the agent and Lebron. bet he never plays a minute at Duke.
There are many possible scenarios. When Penn State football went down, Joe Pa's career was ruined by the actions of his subordinates. Even if Duke is dirty (which seems likely now, on the basis of circumstantial evidence), it could be Capel. Instead of getting out too far over our skis, let's just watch and see what happens.
That would be the ultimate gift for me !!! However I think if the NCAA really thinks Rat Face and Pork Belly Capel are deep in this they will come out and say we realize the rules need to be changed and therefore all schools involved will be reprimanded and have to pay a fine maybe and we will move forward from here.
Yes to this x1000. History has shown anyone with their eyes open that no one will force Coach "K" to resign, no matter what is going on at Duke. He has already proven he can break the rules and no one bats an eye. Duke and UNC are the untouchables of college basketball and Coach K is a god. He dances to his tune and nobody else. The NCAA will never investigate Duke for rules violations.
I think K will retire and become CBB commissioner.
Wouldn’t surprise me at all.
Wouldn’t surprise me at all.
You're just hoping. K is and will remain untouchable. Like it or not, he is This generations Wooden. Even when all the cheating came out about Gilbert and UCLA, Woodens name remains unblemished.
Most of us probably thought Paterno was untouchable too
If and It's a big "If" they nail Duke in this, Capel will take all the fall. K will throw him under the bus in a heartbeat. Then K will decide to retire, b/c he's disgusted with everything.
Short of K being caught on a wiretap, Duke will go unscathed from NCAA. They will not tarnish their golden idol.
You got me there. What was I thinking. This is the Almighty Royal K we are talking about. He’d let his entire staff take the bullet if it meant saving his own ***.
Duke is the pristine image the NCAA wants. They are untouchable because if they are dirty then the NCAA failed and they won't admit that. It's why Maggette and Lance Thomas skated. It's why they get the easiest bracket every year. They want Duke to win it to make it look like the good guys won doing it the right way. It's why Bagley and Duval were cleared in 10 minutes but would've never been allowed to play anywhere else. They are above the law.
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Bingo. Once Duke/K was implicated all of the pundits changed from blaming individual programs to blaming the system.
PLease don't start this Duke is dirty crap. That's what people do with us since we recruit just like Duke . I doubt either are really dirty. I mean stuff happens everywhere but I think Duke just recruits dirty in that they lie and say whatever they have to but I doubt they pay most players.
I understand what ur saying. I don't disagree that until we know don't treat Duke like we have been treated. It's hard not to tho because so many of the people who were saying that about us were putting Duke on a pedestal and not just fans the media as well. It's just funny that since Capel a known cheater arrived guys who hadn't normally been going to Duke started going to Duke.
Remember the scene in the movie Goodfellas, where Jimmy and Tommy are selling the stolen cigarettes out of the back of the truck, and the narrator says, "And when the cops assigned a whole army to stop Jimmy, what'd he do? He made 'em partners!"?
I've always seen dook and unc as Jimmy and Tommy, and the ncaa as the cops.
I've always seen dook and unc as Jimmy and Tommy, and the ncaa as the cops.
I have a feeling he will come out if this as the White Stallion who saved College Basketball by bringing players to Duke so they could be rescued from the filth that is going on with recruiting.. he is not going to be tarnished in any way shape or form. It’s laughable to think the NCAA is going to do anything to him besides Bow.
Why i do not see anything happening to Knox, him and Carter is in the same situations, involved in getting a few meals getting paid for. How do you punish Knox in that situation and not Carter?? It's just not possible with all of this media **** storm being swirled up..
I think K will be like Barney when Andy left town.
Everybody goes to jail but him.
Everybody goes to jail but him.
I don't doubt capel would cheat and probably has there but Duke for the most part gets guys , like UK , due to having an elite coach , lots of NBA players and tradition and the chance to play with other elite players.
It doesn't look like that to me. Looks to me like 4 seasons ago around the time of Capel's hiring they went from classes of 2 maybe three five stars a year one of which was usually a top 3 impact player. They then started recruiting even with us and then passed us altogether. Basically getting whatever kid they want.
Like that journalist said a bit ago why would these top kids all of a sudden want to go there? The second that NBA guys started saying Cal's guys were more NBA ready than anyone and Dukes were usually under developed and consistently underperforming we shouldn't have lost another over all best class to them. U know that too was around the time their recruiting surged. Sound familiar? It made no sense.
Duke is a cool school only to it's rich band wagon fans not to hs kids. Sure some kids go there for K and all of that. Mostly stretch 4 s and pgs who Duke does have a decent NBA track record with but not like the past 2 seasons where they get 2 or 3 of the top 5 and their whole class is top 10. Fishy very fishy. Just seems to me the school who was selling future pro millions is trending down in recruiting while Duke and others are trending up.
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Dude this is K He will not be forced out. He is a college basketball god. He is just like John Wooden. They above the rules or the law. If duke is cheating like anyone with half a brain can see, there will be nothing done until after k is gone then they will bust the remaining staff, just like they did ucla after wooden was gone.
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Duke barely took 12 hours to “investigate internally”, so they’re basically daring the NCAA to stand up to them.
Unfortunately, we all know the NCAA is a bunch of vaginas when it comes to UNC or Duke.
Unfortunately, we all know the NCAA is a bunch of vaginas when it comes to UNC or Duke.
I have never understood what makes K the pope, why do people think he is untouchable and if so why is he. His programs are far from squeaky clean with Maggette, Brand and Lance Thomas. Then he hires a known cheater in Capel and there is never a problem with getting star players eligible despite common knowledge saying the player probably wouldn't be.If Duke cheats they need to be brought down hard and expose the wrongdoings that have gone on there for a long time. Just like North Carolina* that holier than thou attitude K and Duke has is a fraud.
Sometimes we are like the tape recorder in Mission Impossible; we self destruct. The more we get by with, the more we continue to break the rules deceiving ourselves into thinking we're untouchable. When the hammer Falls, we're shocked. JMO
I would agree with you if it was still the 60s and early 70s. In today's day and age Wooden wouldn't have gotten away clean. To much media exposure to much social media Twitter all of that. Don't think K will take an epic fall but if it's proved that they are involved on a grander scale it will end up meaning. That instead of schools having the hammer dropped that some rules are changed and the NCAA possibly looks at allowing loans for recruits with pro potential or something like that
Circumstantially, it sure looks like that to me, as well. But that's not really relevant. Let's see what the FBI investigation shows.
K will retire, Cal will be proven to be clean at Kentucky and UK basketball will go on the wildest championship run of our lifetimes over the next decade.
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This why tenure. Been Duke's coach forever dean smith was treated the same. Winning every one loves a winner all time winningest active coach. Brought USA basketball back Finally the media powers that be have deemed it so.