Are yinz still happy with the B1G move? Not trying to be a smart ***... really want to know if in hindsight if any of you think the ACC or even the AAC would have been a better option.
Just wondering
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Yes, we are happy with the B1G move. I think there is a small minority among us who would have preferred the ACC, but there is no evidence that the ACC was ever an option.
We probably would have been more competitive right away in the ACC but in the long run the B1G is the better option financially. I do miss playing some of the local rivalries though.
Yes it's still a better move even though we're the red headed step child.
We are part of the best collegiate athletic (with academics) conference in the USA.
We've got to get better. We are a small fish in a big pond. imo that's better than a big fish in a small pond.
We are part of the best collegiate athletic (with academics) conference in the USA.
We've got to get better. We are a small fish in a big pond. imo that's better than a big fish in a small pond.
IMHO (in hindsight) The ACC should have taken Rutgers over Syracuse. With the fledgling ACC network on the horizon there is the "opportunity" for tremendous financial gain given the lock (except for the NYC/PHILLY markets) the ACC has of the eastern part of the USA. ACC football is on the upswing. Last week's poll had as many ACC teams as SEC teams in the top 25. I personally don't see any reason for the trend not to continue. As for Pitt, there is now a glimmer of hope on the horizon with the upgraded focus on athletics and the increased athletic budgets which are directly related to the ACC move. As for the B1G it may never have been an option, not because of academics, but due to blackballing from State Penn. Anyway.. good luck!. Wish we were still playing yinz.
Perfectly happy.
with respect to the AAC, I would never be happy there. you always want to start the season knowing you'll be in the playoff with 0 or 1 loss, the AAC can't say that, Rutgers can (and I know we are a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG way from finishing a season with 0 or 1 loss).
ACC? I mean, I liked the Big East so why not run it back with a bunch of North Carolina teams and a couple of others thrown into the mix. It's better than the AAC, but not even close to the Big Ten.
We need to be able to pay a coach and to pull in recruits who want to play on a big stage. The Big Ten affords us the opportunity. Nothing is ever guaranteed, but I like having the chance.
with respect to the AAC, I would never be happy there. you always want to start the season knowing you'll be in the playoff with 0 or 1 loss, the AAC can't say that, Rutgers can (and I know we are a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG way from finishing a season with 0 or 1 loss).
ACC? I mean, I liked the Big East so why not run it back with a bunch of North Carolina teams and a couple of others thrown into the mix. It's better than the AAC, but not even close to the Big Ten.
We need to be able to pay a coach and to pull in recruits who want to play on a big stage. The Big Ten affords us the opportunity. Nothing is ever guaranteed, but I like having the chance.
Much better in the Big Ten over the long term, academics, sports, revenue.
That all depends on how you feel about being eaten.
Maybe you want to find a better analogy.
Except for Northwestern, the Big Ten is made up of large, research-oriented state universities. We are where we belong as a university, and getting a full share of Big Ten revenue will mean more for us than it could for any other school, given how large the subsidy for athletics has been over the years and the criticism Rutgers faces for its finances.
In my heart I would have loved a true Eastern conference, but in the end we are where we should be.
In my heart I would have loved a true Eastern conference, but in the end we are where we should be.
Absolutely, positively. Everybody realizes how much we're starting behind the others. Until we get that bigger share of the pie in a couple years, we can just continue to work hard and hope for the best.
The Big move does not in any way mean we cant be winning 7-8 games like we used to.
Yes were gonna be behind ohio state and michigan in virtually all years (think west virginia in the big east)
But Mich St and Penn St are more like Louisville.
I dont regret it one bit. Were at this spot because of some terrible decisions made after schiano left.
Yes were gonna be behind ohio state and michigan in virtually all years (think west virginia in the big east)
But Mich St and Penn St are more like Louisville.
I dont regret it one bit. Were at this spot because of some terrible decisions made after schiano left.
Yes of course. We will get better. And we will be rolling in $$. All good, all good.
Btw...how did this "yinz" thing come about. Y'all i get. Yous guys as well.
But yinz? I am sure i could google it...but hoping you can give me the 'local' scoop...
Btw...how did this "yinz" thing come about. Y'all i get. Yous guys as well.
But yinz? I am sure i could google it...but hoping you can give me the 'local' scoop...
For me personally, I prayed that the ACC would have extended an invite. I miss playing Cuse, Miami, Pitt and the Ville. Playing Clemson and Florida State would have been the cat's meow. The B10 is not bad, I just don't see the cultural and geographical connection, they are midwestern schools. A conference like the ACC would have invited Rutgers on its own merit rather than with any strings attached. The B10 invite resulted in the hostile takeover of the medical school which resulted in 4,000 plus job losses. Just imagine what those who lost their jobs must be saying after last night's debacle.
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I agree mostly with this . If we had the choice ACC or BiG i would have preferred the ACC. But we didn't have a choice and I am happy we got the BIG invite .
what... you guys dont enjoy the tractor trailer parts and the farm product commercials on big ten network???
[roll]
Rutgers doesn't belong in a conference with Midwestern teams but it belongs in a conference of southern teams???
That is funny. Having grown up in Omaha and living in LA for the last 35 years I don't have much use for those commercials either. However, before we moved to the BIG I had to pay for Gameplan to get a game or two each year and occasionally had to do some other PPV, so I am perfectly fine with a few Monsanto commercials here and there.
Maryland & Penn St are located closer to Rutgers than any ACC schools.
Rutgers has very little in common with smaller private schools in the ACC like Boston College, Duke, Miami, Syracuse & Wake Forest.
Louisville is in the ACC, but, it doesn't offer the academics that are required of a B1G school.
The B1G East Division has a lot of schools that are very similar to Rutgers.
Once Rutgers gets a full share of B1G revenue in 2021, it will become easier to get the facilities needed to compete favorably with B1G East Division powers on an annual basis.
Football: We wouldn't have had OSU and Michigan, but we would have had to play Clemson and FSU. No Penn St or UMD, but we'd have to play Pitt and Syracuse. No Indiana, Purdue, or Illinois, but Duke, Wake Forest, and BC. So not much would be different from now.
Basketball: No Michigan or Wisconsin or Iowa, but Duke, UNC, NC St, etc. Actually the B1G is probably a better overall bball conference than the ACC now but still not a huge difference. We still aren't good in bball.
Wrestling would not have the same momentum as now. However both our soccer teams went to the NCAAs last year and women's are elite, so that would have been a good fit (ladies beat ACC champs and #1 UVA & men beat #3 UVA last year).
So what are the big differences? Southern fans instead of midwestern fans. For those that claim "regional rivalries" - BC and Cuse are no closer than PSU and MD, and Pitt distance is basically OSU. The only real difference is in the Big Ten we have our own TV network, all our teams play in on-campus stadiums, and oh yea, about twice the paycheck.
Basketball: No Michigan or Wisconsin or Iowa, but Duke, UNC, NC St, etc. Actually the B1G is probably a better overall bball conference than the ACC now but still not a huge difference. We still aren't good in bball.
Wrestling would not have the same momentum as now. However both our soccer teams went to the NCAAs last year and women's are elite, so that would have been a good fit (ladies beat ACC champs and #1 UVA & men beat #3 UVA last year).
So what are the big differences? Southern fans instead of midwestern fans. For those that claim "regional rivalries" - BC and Cuse are no closer than PSU and MD, and Pitt distance is basically OSU. The only real difference is in the Big Ten we have our own TV network, all our teams play in on-campus stadiums, and oh yea, about twice the paycheck.
Alot of ways ACC makes more sense. Same time zone for starters. Alumni up and down the East Coast. Better weather. Much more drivable away games, Pitt, BC, Cuse, UVA.
Similar State or highly respected academic universities like RU, PItt, UVA, VA Tech, G Tech, UNC, NC State, and/or schools chock full of New Jersey residents, Duke, BC, Miami, Cuse. Better hoops too.
But the reality is thrilled with B1G for the one over riding reason, $$$$$$$$$
Similar State or highly respected academic universities like RU, PItt, UVA, VA Tech, G Tech, UNC, NC State, and/or schools chock full of New Jersey residents, Duke, BC, Miami, Cuse. Better hoops too.
But the reality is thrilled with B1G for the one over riding reason, $$$$$$$$$
As a PA resident, "Yinz" is Pittsburghese, much like Yo and Your guys are Philadelphian and Up Yours is NYC.
No problem with the move. In fact, I embrace the fact our 22 fully-funded and sundry club programs, such as ice hockey, are now in a much stronger position than in the past. Our 31 academic schools, likewise, have a much better position to work from than what we would have in the ACC and definitely better than the Ivies.
Those who think otherwise really do not have a clue about how the world is changing in our favor going forward.
Those who think otherwise really do not have a clue about how the world is changing in our favor going forward.
Wow. Big 10 invite had nothing to do with absorbing the medical school into Rutgers.
Academics = B1G
Athletics (better fit for ACC)
History = ACC (we have much more history of playing those teams and the atmosphere at the games is just different than when Cuse, Pitt, BS, Ville are in the house. PSU is the only offset cause beatings at home from UM and OSU are already getting really old)
Travel = ACC (going up and down the east coast and potential for better weather games...yes for me)
CASH = no brainer
Recruiting = ACC ( think we have much better chance to get the kids from down south and we opened the door even bigger for B1G in jersey now..MHO)
In the end, nobody asked me and we had zero choice and we ended up in a great spot so...split up OSU and UM from the east and I am thrilled.
your question insinuates that we actually had a choice. we are damn lucky that someone wanted us. as to where I would rather be, I think the acc would have been better with some of our old big east pals involved there. the BIG was our only lifeline. can we ever be competitive with the top teams in our division and play for a conference title....I think that is a long ,long way off.
# of Top 25 teams by conference:
7 - SEC (3 of Top 10)
5 - ACC (2 of Top 10)
4 - Big Ten (4 of Top 10)
3 - Big 12
2 - Pac 12 (1 of Top 10)
2 - AAC
1 - MWC
1 - MAC
AAC- that is just a stupid question.
ACC- a little more logical but the money will end up being better in the B1G, the conference more stable and WTF wants to be in a BB conference again? We would be competitive sooner but the B1G is a much better fit in the long run. And it also adds much more prestige to the University in total.
Thrilled with being B1G
ACC- a little more logical but the money will end up being better in the B1G, the conference more stable and WTF wants to be in a BB conference again? We would be competitive sooner but the B1G is a much better fit in the long run. And it also adds much more prestige to the University in total.
Thrilled with being B1G
I would have preferred an OBE reunion division in the ACC, but I'm fine with the B10. I never thought I'd watch the BTN before Rutgers got in, but I actually like their CFB shows better than ESPNs.
B1G schools have won 39 National Championships in football.
ACC schools have won 18.
No ACC schools have won more than 5 National Championships in football.
Michigan has won 8 National Championships.
Ohio State has won 7 National Championships.
Minnesota has won 6 National Championships.
BC, Clemson, Louisville, Syracuse and Wake Forest do not provide the Research Performance that B1G schools provide.