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ORCAT

Heisman
Jan 6, 2003
24,660
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I can't help you on this one. That makes little sense to me to see UK listed that low among SEC teams. Until we meet and find out, I might place only UT with a better chance and I should know better than that with the history of both UT and Rick Barnes and how they both seem to flame out early in the tournament. Sorry, but I'm with you on this one, makes little sense to me.
 

struggler

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Jan 23, 2013
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I would say recent lack of success in March and Cal has been inconsistent/less than successful in games against highly ranked opponents in recent years (I know we beat a ranked Miami and UNCheat this year so far... I am talking last 3-5 year sample).
 

*Fox2Monk*

Heisman
Jun 10, 2009
45,574
82,609
113
I would say recent lack of success in March and Cal has been inconsistent/less than successful in games against highly ranked opponents in recent years (I know we beat a ranked Miami and UNCheat this year so far... I am talking last 3-5 year sample).
Yeah but UT has 100+ years of no final fours lol. Bama isn’t making one for sure, Auburn I could see but nobody know quite how good they are yet.
 

bucsrule8872

Heisman
May 30, 2005
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29,352
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The only rationale I can think of is that they figure our Freshmen are going to struggle down the stretch.
 

UKWildcats1987

Heisman
Sep 9, 2021
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34,665
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I would say recent lack of success in March and Cal has been inconsistent/less than successful in games against highly ranked opponents in recent years (I know we beat a ranked Miami and UNCheat this year so far... I am talking last 3-5 year sample).

Makes 0 sense. What success have those other 3 teams had ever at making a final four?

Calipari does well with high level freshmen led teams here.
 
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megablue

Heisman
Oct 2, 2012
15,723
15,948
113
The odds for SEC Teams to make the final 4

UT- 22%
Auburn- 18%
Alabama - 16%
Kentucky - 6%

Make this make sense to me.
Probably due to having so many Freshmen … would be my guess. Simply have to prove the “experts” wrong !!
 

CatOfDaVille

All-American
Mar 30, 2007
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8,100
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The odds for SEC Teams to make the final 4

UT- 22%
Auburn- 18%
Alabama - 16%
Kentucky - 6%

Make this make sense to me.
Without looking it up, my guess is they are using their BPI ranking system as a data source for this. It's the reason why they give A&M a 66% chance to win on Sat.


BPI is like a watered down version of KenPom or NET rankings. I'm guessing our poor defensive metrics are pulling us down in those rankings.
 

Mike-D

Heisman
Jul 14, 2001
50,232
74,954
113
The odds for SEC Teams to make the final 4

UT- 22%
Auburn- 18%
Alabama - 16%
Kentucky - 6%

Make this make sense to me.

Espn metrics is garbage. Same one gave us like a 15-20% chance to win at Florida. Likely the UNC Wilmington loss bringing us down in their system.
 

Ash Williams

Heisman
Aug 3, 2022
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Well, the good thing about that eSpN prediction is that it means absolutely nothing.
 

fs-ripcord65

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Apr 29, 2009
5,717
3,879
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I would say recent lack of success in March and Cal has been inconsistent/less than successful in games against highly ranked opponents in recent years (I know we beat a ranked Miami and UNCheat this year so far... I am talking last 3-5 year sample).
I agree with this post. There is no way to argue that the ESPN expectancy numbers aren't a strong indictment of Calipari. One can argue that that indictment of Calipari arises out of an ESPN bias against U.K., I suppose ... but that doesn't remove the fact that the underlying statement of the ESPN expectancy numbers is clearly based on the CCC acronym - and, in my judgment, rightly so.
 
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Mike-D

Heisman
Jul 14, 2001
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I agree with this post. There is no way to argue that the ESPN expectancy numbers aren't a strong indictment of Calipari. One can argue that that indictment of Calipari arises out of an ESPN bias against U.K., I suppose ... but that doesn't remove the fact that the underlying statement of the ESPN expectancy numbers is clearly based on the CCC acronym - and, in my judgment, rightly so.

Those metrics only include games played this year, as far as I know.
 

CrimsonCats_rivals

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Mar 22, 2022
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Without looking it up, my guess is they are using their BPI ranking system as a data source for this. It's the reason why they give A&M a 66% chance to win on Sat.


BPI is like a watered down version of KenPom or NET rankings. I'm guessing our poor defensive metrics are pulling us down in those rankings.
People are overlooking this for some reason, but it’s overwhelmingly likely to be the correct answer. It’s no conspiracy. The analytics just don’t like us as much as the pollsters for the time being.

You can certainly debate whether BPI is a good model or not, but even on something more reputable like KenPom, Auburn, Tennessee, and Alabama are ranked 4th, 5th, and 7th respectively while we’re 18th. That seems to roughly correlate to the odds cited in the original post.