Just Remember 9-3 doesn't matter

Kceasthawk@77

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It’s not so much opening up the passing game with MG….its the frustration that we’ve gone about a decade without having a competent QB and playcaller

we really have no idea what Lester passing scheme is because he has to abandon it with noodle arm QBs

But even with great QBs like CJB, we still play uber conservative because our head coach believes 3 yard runs, punts, and hopes for special teams magic is the only way Iowa can win

going forward, just say **** it and let the players play

this won’t happen tho :-(
So MG did nothing on either TD drive, (94 yds on the 4Q one) both throwing and running to get recognition? Was the 4Q drive REALLY "ultra conservative" or are you just that jaded at this point? And for the record Stanley threw for 9000yds and 70TDs, or is that beyond your memory?
 

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It’s not so much opening up the passing game with MG….its the frustration that we’ve gone about a decade without having a competent QB and playcaller

we really have no idea what Lester passing scheme is because he has to abandon it with noodle arm QBs

But even with great QBs like CJB, we still play uber conservative because our head coach believes 3 yard runs, punts, and hopes for special teams magic is the only way Iowa can win

going forward, just say **** it and let the players play

this won’t happen tho :-(
The Capt needs to retire to the Sun Belt and get out of the way of progress.
 
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I like coming to this board more after a loss than a win to read a lot of thoughts that don't need to be shared with the world but that "post reply" button is just too enticing. Some things are better kept inside your head.
 

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My main point was all the guys who liked your post had already posted that THEY were out, and couldn't care less about the last 3-4 games. Or did you not read that part. So NO it does NOT matter to some of the "fans" (supposedly) on this forum, which is really sad if they are actually "fans".
On that point we agree 100%. The big goals are now out of reach, but the games are still decent entertainment and the team still represents our university. It's worth watching and worth still wanting the team to win, even as we acknowledge and accept the fact that the outcomes now don't have the capacity to meaningfully move the needle on our 2025 season.
 

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7-5. KF announces his retirement ahead of the Salisbury steak bowl. He crys after a stirring 20-16 win over a team that had most of its players opt out.
 
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Continuing to practice, coach, play the games, etc. is what teams do because it's what teams are obligated to do. For the team/program, sticking to that process is meaningful. For select players, especially those who have next-level aspirations, that is meaningful. But continuing to try, continuing to win, etc. doesn't make all of that stuff "meaningful" in the big picture of CFB once conf. championship and/or CFP are out of reach.

Beating USC next week, MSU the following week, Nebby on Black Friday, and some other also ran in a half-empty bowl venue with 1/3 of each team sitting out, would be better than the alternative (a.k.a. losing). But that doesn't make it meaningful in the context of what really matters in the sport today.

This is just the reality of CFB now.
Agreed, the games the rest of the season (as soon as any team loses 2/3 games) are realistically meaningless. College football is no longer for the fans and is just for the players/pros/gamblers/tailgaters for the most part. Especially at Iowa who drops 2/3 games pretty much every year 2/3 way thru the season. The current supposedly collegiate football season has lost its appeal to a lot of fans. But JMO.
 

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So MG did nothing on either TD drive, (94 yds on the 4Q one) both throwing and running to get recognition? Was the 4Q drive REALLY "ultra conservative" or are you just that jaded at this point? And for the record Stanley threw for 9000yds and 70TDs, or is that beyond your memory?
This is all anecdotal, and of course we have a bias

I had coworkers watching this game and they kept saying the same thing. Your offense is a dumpster fire. You can’t pass.

Yes Mark made 3 really good throws which led to our 2 TD

But we still lost in a game that the announcers said was reminiscent of Amy - Navy

We have been so abused by the worst offenses in the world that we take a 16 point game against a top 10 team as proof that we’re back!!

We lost this game because of our insistence on playing conservative. We haven’t won a meaningful game in the national stage in years.

Yet Kirk continues to implement this gameplan thinking it’ll work.

We lost. The players played hard, but then end were just not good enough
 

The Big Z

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Agreed, the games the rest of the season (as soon as any team loses 2/3 games) are realistically meaningless. College football is no longer for the fans and is just for the players/pros/gamblers/tailgaters for the most part. Especially at Iowa who drops 2/3 games pretty much every year 2/3 way thru the season. The current supposedly collegiate football season has lost its appeal to a lot of fans. But JMO.
Again, what is different now than the old days? If you lost 2-3 games in the old days you weren’t winning the conference, going to the Rose Bowl but you might end up in the top 25. None of that has changed. Especially for Iowa. I’m still excited to drub the Gophers and play a new time like Oregon or fly to USC. What were we playing for in the so called better days?
 
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No playoff no nothing.
It is going to be very tough to make the playoffs under the new BIG. Look at the class of the BIG that will be in the running every year. OSU,Michigan,Oregon,PSU,USC,now Indiana. Its going to take a great team with a soft BIG schedule to make the playoffs. If its the playoffs are all or nothing. Find another team to root for because I see alot of nothing. Yet we are a few bouncing balls our way of being undefeated. Its the reality of todays college FB. We don't have the recruiting territory or deep pocket sugar daddys to buy players.
 

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My main point was all the guys who liked your post had already posted that THEY were out, and couldn't care less about the last 3-4 games. Or did you not read that part. So NO it does NOT matter to some of the "fans" (supposedly) on this forum, which is really sad if they are actually "fans".
We got super fandom bleeding through this guy!!!
 

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It’s the exact same thing. No one cares unless you are a fan of THAT team i.e. Non-Iowa Hawkeye fans couldn’t care less about watching whatever bowl game it ends up being.

But I’ll sure as sh*t watch any and all playoff games even though I have no emotional investment in any of the specific participants. Just like the NCAA tourney in March.
Many college football fans will watch any bowl game that’s on if it’s at all entertaining. Residents of bowl venue cities often attend the games regardless of match-up.
 

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Some people love beating their heads against the wall. We're getting better! We're so close! We're gonna get over the hump! It's right there!

It's year 25 or whatever, not year 3. The first hump was surmounted in 2002 and the rest have rarely been surmounted since. Recognize basic patterns.
 
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Kceasthawk@77

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Some people love beating their heads against the wall. We're getting better! We're so close! We're gonna get over the hump! It's right there!

It's year 25 or whatever, not year 3. The first hump was surmounted in 2002 and the rest have rarely been surmounted since. Recognize basic patterns.
Please list the teams that have won national titles in the last 25 years. Whats changed? Not much other then $$$$$$$$$$$$$, and Iowa isn't going to gain more ground now then they did before. Like it or don't. And don't kid yourself. Indiana has money from big donors but they aren't winning a title either. They'll have to play alot better then they have the last several weeks to beat teams like OSU.....
 
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Please list the teams that have won national titles in the last 25 years. Whats changed? Not much other then $$$$$$$$$$$$$, and Iowa isn't going to gain more ground now then they did before. Like it or don't. And don't kid yourself. Indiana has money from big donors but they aren't winning a title either. They'll have to play alot better then they have the last several weeks to beat teams like OSU.....
I agree but at this point IU has played itself into a top 4 seed which is a huge advantage. While doubtful they win a natty they are a serious contender this year way more than last year. Better defensively and much better at QB.
 

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It’s the exact same thing. No one cares unless you are a fan of THAT team i.e. Non-Iowa Hawkeye fans couldn’t care less about watching whatever bowl game it ends up being.

But I’ll sure as sh*t watch any and all playoff games even though I have no emotional investment in any of the specific participants. Just like the NCAA tourney in March.
It’s the exact same thing. No one cares unless you are a fan of THAT team i.e. Non-Iowa Hawkeye fans couldn’t care less about watching whatever bowl game it ends up being.

But I’ll sure as sh*t watch any and all playoff games even though I have no emotional investment in any of the specific participants. Just like the NCAA tourney in March.
Appreciate the clarification. So in a nutshell your a college sports fan first and a Hawkeye fan second, but only if their really good that particular year. Sounds like about 35% of the posters here. Glad you have your own group.
 

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Iowa isn't going to gain more ground now then they did before
Thanks for accidentally agreeing with me. People in here are watching the same movie for the 250th time expecting that things are going to be different. Sorry, others may be fine with setting themselves up for disappointment, but I'm not. And no, I have no illusions that the next coach will be immediately better than KF or even on the same level.
 

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And the alternative is what, apathy? I'll pass. I don't do fantasy football. I don't waste my money setting it on fire betting on teams. Follow the Chiefs casually. I follow my team, the Hawks. Thats my thing. Sorry, if thats an issue on my teams website.
How dare you behave like an adult after a tough loss.

I mean we should never lose to the #2 team in the country that can buy a revamped team with Nike money every year.

Did anyone notice they picked up Thieneman from Purdue at Safety? Purdues best Defensive player. What a luxury that would be.

Yet, little old Iowa had the lead with less than 2 minutes remaining. If we had held the lead, everyone would be talking about how great the team played. But, the #2 team in the land prevailed in the end.

Thus, the only correct response it to piss and moan and cry about it. Fire everyone and all the players suck.

And now the season is over, even though there are 3 games and a bowl game left.

Yet, they will all be back here next week for the USC game.

Get with the program, buddy
 

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It is going to be very tough to make the playoffs under the new BIG. Look at the class of the BIG that will be in the running every year. OSU,Michigan,Oregon,PSU,USC,now Indiana.
Look at the last 2 words of that final sentence.
You can take an ugly girl to the prom and lie to yourself that you're not being laughed at.
Or you can do what it takes to escort a hot chick to the dance.
Indiana kept looking till the hot chick said "yes".
KF and the U looks at Rosie O'Donnel and says, "You know, she's pretty attractive."



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Kceasthawk@77

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Thanks for accidentally agreeing with me. People in here are watching the same movie for the 250th time expecting that things are going to be different. Sorry, others may be fine with setting themselves up for disappointment, but I'm not. And no, I have no illusions that the next coach will be immediately better than KF or even on the same level.
Thanks for accidentally agreeing with me. People in here are watching the same movie for the 250th time expecting that things are going to be different. Sorry, others may be fine with setting themselves up for disappointment, but I'm not. And no, I have no illusions that the next coach will be immediately better than KF or even on the same level.
Its not an accident. I do agree. i just don't see why people think Iowa, or anyone of 60 other teams is going to all of a sudden become a power by running the guy who's here now. Theres a damn good chance the next guy won't win 9 games a year. So no playoffs, no titles etc.. So if thats the only motivation for being here, (other the a fans hope of a magical season, which we were damn close to this year) why be here?
 

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Look at the last 2 words of that final sentence.
You can take an ugly girl to the prom and lie to yourself that you're not being laughed at.
Or you can do what it takes to escort a hot chick to the dance.
Indiana kept looking till the hot chick said "yes".
KF and the U looks at Rosie O'Donnel and says, "You know, she's pretty attractive."



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Again, WHO is your sure fire coach. Why havent Wisconsin, Purdue, MSU, Nebraska, Illinois, NW, UCLA, USC, hell even PSU, (in truth Franklin never beat any of the top teams) not to mention countless teams around the country fared better in ther quest over the last 2 decades. Its so easy, just go find the next guy and be SURE he's going to win 10+ games a year at a school that doesn't have the recruiting demographic or bag-o-cash to compete with the tip schools every year.
 
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Look at the last 2 words of that final sentence.
You can take an ugly girl to the prom and lie to yourself that you're not being laughed at.
Or you can do what it takes to escort a hot chick to the dance.
Indiana kept looking till the hot chick said "yes".
KF and the U looks at Rosie O'Donnel and says, "You know, she's pretty attractive."



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Football is entertainment. This team has been very entertaining. My biggest problem with KF was his ******* son as OC. He has a real OC now. We beat the **** out of our 2 biggest rivals. I enjoyed the **** out of that.
 

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Nebraska has fielded some really bad teams and we’ve just barely squeeked by most years.

It’s definitely a potential loss even considering they are now with a backup QB.
They played good offensive football last night on the west coast in Pasadena, w/ a Lateefa
 

hahkize

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The bowl games used to give us a little hope and insight into the potential for next years team.

Now that Kirk has destroyed the offense we can spend millions on a new QB and get the same lame results against ranked teams. Glad we piss pounded MN and WI, but we aren’t seeing drastic improvements. There’s been some, specifically the OL has finally looked its part

But we really lack any passing game and we can’t get over hump
You get results from what you emphasize. Gonna be a lot tougher next year unless we pick up a hot QB in the portal which will be like Arnold Schwarzenegger shopping for a Turbo Man doll on Black Friday.
 

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Iowa HAD advantages over Indiana. In fact Indiana was the losingest program in the B1G 2 yrs ago.

It's just reality.

people should really stop using Indiana as an example of how simple it is to make a big jump in success.

Indiana has an enrollment almost double Iowa with a top 10 business school.

💰💰💰💰

Indiana is a great example of using the current NIL/Collective rules to their advantage.
 
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people should really stop using Indiana as an example of how simple it is to make a big jump in success.

Indiana has an enrollment almost double Iowa with a top 10 business school.

💰💰💰💰

Indiana is a great example of using the current NIL/Collective rules to their advantage.
Stop it.
 

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Again, what is different now than the old days? If you lost 2-3 games in the old days you weren’t winning the conference, going to the Rose Bowl but you might end up in the top 25. None of that has changed. Especially for Iowa. I’m still excited to drub the Gophers and play a new time like Oregon or fly to USC. What were we playing for in the so called better days?
Good point, so maybe for me it has to do with the type of play, no confidence in then head coach to change, NIL, or my age. But I have lost a great deal of enthusiasm for Iowa football. Will always watch and root for Iowa, but something is missing............
 

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Stop with the truth?

Does Iowa have a Cuban, Simon or Prebys funding the program? Any Billionaire donors for the Hawkeyes?

Nope.

We can’t just go buy the top QB like Oregon, Indiana, Michigan or Ohio State can.
 

The Big Z

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Stop with the truth?

Does Iowa have a Cuban, Simon or Prebys funding the program? Any Billionaire donors for the Hawkeyes?

Nope.

We can’t just go buy the top QB like Oregon, Indiana, Michigan or Ohio State can.
You’re using the IU business school as a crutch now? IU is the losingest program in the entire Big Ten. Their coach brought a bunch of players over from Janes Madison. And 90% of their team is comprised of 3 star players or less. Maybe an even higher percentage. It’s BS to put them up with Oregon and OSU in the NIL game.
 
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This is all anecdotal, and of course we have a bias

I had coworkers watching this game and they kept saying the same thing. Your offense is a dumpster fire. You can’t pass.

Yes Mark made 3 really good throws which led to our 2 TD

But we still lost in a game that the announcers said was reminiscent of Amy - Navy

We have been so abused by the worst offenses in the world that we take a 16 point game against a top 10 team as proof that we’re back!!

We lost this game because of our insistence on playing conservative. We haven’t won a meaningful game in the national stage in years.

Yet Kirk continues to implement this gameplan thinking it’ll work.

We lost. The players played hard, but then end were just not good enough
Oregon’s offense scored 16 against us, 13 against Indiana, and 17 in regulation against Penn State. Just sayin’.
 
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I agree with Big Z. In my memory, for fifty years perhaps two bowl games were relevant in determining a national champ. Yet people enjoyed watching the other games. It's not that different today.

If you can't be #1 you still want to win as many games as you can and play a good team in a good bowl, regardless of players opting out. The positives of that extra game are nothing but beneficial to your team.

Fans don't have to make the trip, or may choose not to watch. That's okay too. Personally I am really cheering for Iowa in their last four games. The off-season is so long as it is.
 

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I brought it up in another thread but it bares repeating, with as much as QB’s cost I’d rather they roll with Hecklinski or Brown next year and make bigger upgrades to rest of the roster.
Agree. We need help at DB and WR.
LB's are uninspiring - we could use some help there as well.