Just Remember 9-3 doesn't matter
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Yeah...good idea. I'll give that to about Dec. 6th and you crybaby fans will be done with that, too.
We don't work hard enough to earn your love. But give us 7 million each and you'll hear ...
So basically what you're saying is you, and the OP and everyone agreeing with the OP are out on the rest of the season.
If they go 6-6 or 10-3, it does nothing for you, because the playoff is the only thing you care about and because they're out, you'll move on to basketball season, correct?
Just clarifying where you actually stand so we don't create any hypocrites here among the fanbase....................
No half in either. No "I'll be musings watch from afar if they keep winning".
It's a yes or no deal. In or out.
Sounds like you guys are out.
Nttawwt.
Nebraska has fielded some really bad teams and we’ve just barely squeeked by most years.
It’s definitely a potential loss even considering they are now with a backup QB.
You're failing to separate "interesting" and "worth watching" for an individual fan/fan base from "meaningful" to the college football world in the grand scheme of the 2025 season. Ol' Doodle thought he was pretty clear on that point in several posts. Beating USC is still better than losing to them. Beating Nebraska is still better than losing to them. Winning 7 or 8 or 9 games is still better than winning 6. But it is not meaningful for THIS SEASON now that we're in the CFP era.So basically what you're saying is you, and the OP and everyone agreeing with the OP are out on the rest of the season.
If they go 6-6 or 10-3, it does nothing for you, because the playoff is the only thing you care about and because they're out, you'll move on to basketball season, correct?
Just clarifying where you actually stand so we don't create any hypocrites here among the fanbase....................
No half in either. No "I'll be musings watch from afar if they keep winning".
It's a yes or no deal. In or out.
Sounds like you guys are out.
Nttawwt.
It's a little like a TV series that you're really into, where you've already seen the season finale but there were three episodes you missed earlier. You'll watch them anyway, just because it's still interesting to you and you want to see what happened. But they carry zero drama or intrigue because you already know how the story arc concludes.
Just like in basketball where the NCAA tournament is “king,” football now has the 12-team playoff - The rest does not matter.So basically what you're saying is you, and the OP and everyone agreeing with the OP are out on the rest of the season.
If they go 6-6 or 10-3, it does nothing for you, because the playoff is the only thing you care about and because they're out, you'll move on to basketball season, correct?
Just clarifying where you actually stand so we don't create any hypocrites here among the fanbase....................
No half in either. No "I'll be musings watch from afar if they keep winning".
It's a yes or no deal. In or out.
Sounds like you guys are out.
Nttawwt.
A 10-win team in a non-playoff bowl game will be equally uninteresting (Irrelevant may be a better word) to watch post-season as the 6-win team in their bowl. Why? B/c it is NOT a playoff game. This is where we’re at.
This team is relevant to me. The next three games are important to me and the bowl game will be important to me.
I like this team. They're not a great team, but they are a good one. They're a top 25 team which means they are better than 100+ other teams in the FBS.
Sure, I want them to be better and win more of these big games. But I'm not going to give up on them because they haven't.
I like this team. They're not a great team, but they are a good one. They're a top 25 team which means they are better than 100+ other teams in the FBS.
Sure, I want them to be better and win more of these big games. But I'm not going to give up on them because they haven't.
We won’t because Kirk will want to lean into lack of experience next year
Agree with your 1st paragraph, but not the second. The CF world may not care about the remaining games, but I do. There is plenty of drama remaining for me.
It would be more interesting if Iowa would open up the offense more
seeing 55 runs of 4-5 yards might be interesting to some, but it makes for a boring watch. If iowa catches lightning in a bottle like they did against MN, great!
but let’s open things up and show teams and recruits that WR do exist
seeing 55 runs of 4-5 yards might be interesting to some, but it makes for a boring watch. If iowa catches lightning in a bottle like they did against MN, great!
but let’s open things up and show teams and recruits that WR do exist
Appealing to wide receivers would be nice for sure. But Ol' Doodle was overjoyed to finally see some evidence that we still have tight ends on the roster!
It may be important to YOU, sure.
But they’re not relevant to the main conversation - The Playoff.
And what is the goal? To be included in the “main conversation.” Just like in basketball where almost no one cares what the hell the NIT has to offer.
“The NIT is on TV tonight? I had no idea.”
Right, they're not going to make the playoffs. They aren't part of the national conversation. Agreed.
But, I don't agree with the comparison to the NIT.
the CFP is a nice get for KF but in his world a good regular bowl game is the goal. He thinks like some of these fans. Iowa never will compete for championships like OSU and Michigan
thats in this new world and era of college football. That is not in the dna of KF and the last 20 years of his experience
It has the exact same meaning
It’s all exhibition from here on out. Our remaining games are as important as a birth in the Alamo Bowl. Anyone with NFL aspirations might as well sit out now and start preparing for the draft.
At least a more appropriate post. As for the three guys who liked your post that is NOT what they said earlier. They said they were out. And I'd still say those games ARE meaningful. It may not matter to you, but it sure as hell matters to those in the football complex, and frankly to everyone still in the CFP. Is it not meaningful to the results of the CFP if we lay down against USC or if we rose up and beat them? My take is as a fan, if I really do care about the team and coaches, the I should support them as long as they are giving their 100% full effort. Thats what I saw again yesterday, maybe you disagree. By example it was understandable to bale to some degree on last years mens basketball team when it became obvious that the coach and some of the players were either disinterested, or had just moved on. Thats not whats going on at kinnick. Basically for some here only those teams who win 10, 11, 12 games are worthy of being supported by the fan base. I guess thats what this whole "pay for play" thing has got is, and its really sad indeed.
It’s kind of been the reality of football for a long time. We look back fondly as fans but does beating Mississippi St in the Outback bowl in a 1/3 full venue ever account for much? It does for us as we love our team but even before the playoffs these games haven’t meant much.
I actually love the new conference. Was yesterday not an incredible game and atmosphere? We were playing a top 10 team in Kinnick with a national reputation. Would you rather be playing 2-7 Purdue? And I can’t wait to see the boys go out to Cali next week and play the Trojans.
Nebraska’s backup may be better than Raiola. He had a pretty good game last night.
Look, we all want a better passing game. But do you think if Gronowski would have passed it 25 times yesterday (or any game honestly) we would have a better chance of winning? Receivers are by far the worst part of our team. And honestly our QB is not very accurate. Oregon came out yesterday and passed it 3 times in a row unsuccessfully and then decided to run run run. And guess what? It worked.
I disagree. Iowa plays USC in a game that might keep USC out of the playoffs. Then the Hawks play Nebraska on Black Friday in nationally televised game. I think the interest and viewership in those two games will be bigger than any NIT game.
The Hawks have a lot to play for.
So you don’t think the coaches and players were trying to make the CFP this year?
When they narrowly lost to 2 top 10 teams in the final seconds, they were just content with going to a bowl game?
They are getting closer every game/every season. The needed pieces are in place now with TL and PP.
It didn’t quite happen this year, but not from a lack of effort. There is no one associated with this program that is not aspiring for Championship results.
Now you, you’re just a bum lashing out from his couch when adversity hits.
It’s the exact same thing. No one cares unless you are a fan of THAT team i.e. Non-Iowa Hawkeye fans couldn’t care less about watching whatever bowl game it ends up being.
But I’ll sure as sh*t watch any and all playoff games even though I have no emotional investment in any of the specific participants. Just like the NCAA tourney in March.
You may not realize it but we more or less agree and you're making Ol' Doodle's point for him.
Yes the games matter to the people in the football complex. And yes they matter to YOU. And yes they matter to the fans of IOWA, and the media in IOWA and the administration at IOWA.
But the USC game matters ONLY to USC and anyone else still competing with them for a potential at large CFP bid. It is not meaningful to the outcome of IOWA's 2025 season. The end result of IOWA's 2025 season, whether we go 3-0, 0-3, or something in between down the stretch is now set in stone; a bowl game. It's still, of course, preferable to go 3-0. But it makes no material difference in how the story of IOWA's 2025 season ends. That's it. That's our ceiling as of around 6 p.m. yesterday. Bowl game.
Iowa's games will always matter to IOWA fans...regardless of record or circumstances. But for the 2025 season we have officially exited the national stage and the big picture conversation. Acknowledging that is not "abandoning the team" or "not being a good fan" or "not supporting the players". It's simply recognizing and accepting the reality of what CFB is now.
Iowa easily could be, and it would be easy to argue they should be, 9-0. No excuse for losing at ISU again. They had Indiana but missed on an easy third down play and then missed a routine FG. And, of course, Iowa goes 92 freakin' yards for what should have been a game-winning TD yesterday, only to miss on yet ANOTHER 2-pt. try and then, AGAIN, to fail to get a defensive stop in the waning moments. '
Like many on this board, I've been an Iowa fan for decades, and there have been some great individual game victories, but there have been few seasons that turned out as well as they should have. This is just one more, but man, I gotta be honest. This one really, really, really hurts. I can't even imagine how the players feel. Soooo close all season. One last chance at the CFP, and it slips away too . . .
Iowa isn't perfect. They do have some weak spots, but look at the reality: Iowa led Oregon with less than 2 minutes to play. It was Iowa's game to win, regardless of the weaknesses you've noted. Same with Indiana.
The bowl games used to give us a little hope and insight into the potential for next years team.
Now that Kirk has destroyed the offense we can spend millions on a new QB and get the same lame results against ranked teams. Glad we piss pounded MN and WI, but we aren’t seeing drastic improvements. There’s been some, specifically the OL has finally looked its part
But we really lack any passing game and we can’t get over hump
If Deacon Hill can lead a team to victory against Nebraska then I will defer to prior history until proven otherwise.
It’s not so much opening up the passing game with MG….its the frustration that we’ve gone about a decade without having a competent QB and playcaller
we really have no idea what Lester passing scheme is because he has to abandon it with noodle arm QBs
But even with great QBs like CJB, we still play uber conservative because our head coach believes 3 yard runs, punts, and hopes for special teams magic is the only way Iowa can win
going forward, just say **** it and let the players play
this won’t happen tho :-(
Sure, the Bowl games are like the NIT - I'll give you that,
But I don't think the rest of the season is. USC and Nebraska games will attract a lot of viewers.
So you're an old person who parties a lot? And partygoers compliment you on how fun you are? No one's buying it loser.
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My main point was all the guys who liked your post had already posted that THEY were out, and couldn't care less about the last 3-4 games. Or did you not read that part. So NO it does NOT matter to some of the "fans" (supposedly) on this forum, which is really sad if they are actually "fans".