Just Between You and I

[ruppcat]

That's like asking for the the Godfather to admit to telling his henchmen to shoot someone. That's never how it goes down. "Take him for a swim in the river".
"What I really meant was I thought he liked to swim officer...he must have drowned accidentally."

Trump spent months saying the election was rigged....months saying the Dems will steal the election....all prior to the election. Then he spent two months after the election saying the ballot machines were rigged, the election was stolen, he got more votes and he will never concede.
Then he made a speech right down the street from the Capitol building on the day of election certification where Rudy G. told the crowd..."Trial by combat" and Trump said "You will never take back our country with weakness....you have to be strong".
Those people truly believed they were trying to save our democracy from being stolen. It was all a big lie.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/10/us/trump-speech-riot.html

And he said let your voices be heard PEACEFULLY.

LOL...Biden, Obama all used rhetoric....the "battle" for our country.

Bammy told people to get in their faces. "If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun." Punish our enemies.

Bammy also called for some type of civilian national security force.....btw...the Communists and Nazis have these
We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded,” Obama said in July 2, 2008.

Commiela Harris on the protests:
"That's right," Harris replied. "But they're not gonna stop. They're not gonna stop, and this is a movement, I'm telling you."

"They're not gonna stop, and everyone beware, because they're not gonna stop," she added. "They're not gonna stop before Election Day in November, and they're not gonna stop after Election Day."

"Everyone should take note of that, on both levels, that they're not going to let up — and they should not. And we should not," she concluded.



You really don't want to play the quote game

 

[Bill Derington]

The BLM riots were violent as hell as was the Capitol riot. Don't try to sugar coat it....That destroys any argument you are trying to support.
Five people, including a cop died in that riot. They were chanting "hang Mike Pence", they beat a cop over the head with U.S. flag, planted pipe bombs, busted out windows, smashed thru doors, stold computers, sprayed pepper spray, brought bats/spears with them, and built a hangman's platform outside.
If they had been able to access Pelosi, AOC, etc. there is no telling what might have happened.
Let's start with facts and reality or there can't be any serious political discussion about anything.

5 people did not die due to the Capital riot, that is a lie to embellish.

There was over a million people at the protest, 3 people had health emergencies that had nothing to do with the riot.

Where was this “ hangman’s platform”, you are trying to compare one event that was terrible to an entire summer of riots, that those same events happened nightly. The Democrats all supported them and fund raised off of the unrest. The current Vice President raised bail money for them.

 

[toll_booth_guru]

Yeah I don't get why they waited so long to do that kneeling stunt. It's like you have that someone that you know a fad has run its course when that someone starts doing it themselves after most everyone else is done with it. And yes that's all this kneeling is, a silly trendy fad.

Well at least we can still play...for now... Though as my generation would say, WE BITE.

it was a passive aggressive FU to the fanbase. The basketball program leadership were aware of what they had on their hands by that point and likely took on a mindset that it’s ludicrous for us to have high standards each year just like a Dick Vitale and other people through the years in the media. In their eyes we’re basically uneducated rednecks with unreasonable expectations and should take whatever we get. This ripples down to the players mindset also as they have no connection to the fans or the program... or usually the geographic region for that matter. Sadly, many likely won‘t seize a golden opportunity to actually get an education...the irony.

 

[sambowieshin_rivals]

And he said let your voices be heard PEACEFULLY.

LOL...Biden, Obama all used rhetoric....the "battle" for our country.

Bammy told people to get in their faces. "If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun." Punish our enemies.

Bammy also called for some type of civilian national security force.....btw...the Communists and Nazis have these
We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded,” Obama said in July 2, 2008.

Commiela Harris on the protests:
"That's right," Harris replied. "But they're not gonna stop. They're not gonna stop, and this is a movement, I'm telling you."

"They're not gonna stop, and everyone beware, because they're not gonna stop," she added. "They're not gonna stop before Election Day in November, and they're not gonna stop after Election Day."

"Everyone should take note of that, on both levels, that they're not going to let up — and they should not. And we should not," she concluded.



You really don't want to play the quote game

I can't and won't defend all of that. Like I have said repeatedly. If ANY politician from either party uses inflammatory rhetoric to incite their followers to violence they should be removed from office.

 

[ruppcat]

How many Dem Presidential candidates refused to concede the election? How many times was the Capitol stormed by democrats seeking to kill Capitol police, hang the VP and kill the Speaker of the House? How many times did the Dem Presidential candidate give a speech claiming to have had the election stolen from them a couple of blocks away from the Capitol on the day the election results were being certified by Congress????
The "Yeah but...." mentality of the far right needs to at least make sure the "Yeah but...." is not a comparison between a mountain and mole hill.

Shillary still believes she won in 2016. She takes every chance she can to say the election was stolen.

Stacy Abrams in GA still maintains she won and the election was stolen.

To your question of how many times did the dims storm the capital....

I can think of at least two in the past four years....and they were cheered on by dims and the media.

 

[Dr. H Lecter]

You left one of the murdered people off your list....Honesty does help.

https://www.aol.com/hero-capitol-police-cop-politically-151055028.html

LOL. Fake news. Why no fact check on that link? You might want to read CNN report on that. No evidence of any trauma. PERIOD. Likely heart attack. Sad but not close to your link fake news. Still sad that he died. Whether stressed by the confrontation or from the friendly fire of the gasses his guys used....our side clearly supports the police and believe Blue Lives Matter. Saying that gets me hit with a skateboard at Antifa riots.

."Investigators struggle to build murder case in death of US Capitol Police officer Brian Sicknick - CNNPolitics" https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/02/02/politics/brian-sicknick-charges/index.html

 

[ruppcat]

I can't and won't defend all of that. Like I have said repeatedly. If ANY politician from either party uses inflammatory rhetoric to incite their followers to violence they should be removed from office.

Then you're going to remove a lot of dims....including the current pres and vp, speaker, etc.

Oh, here's another one of those "peaceful protests" Commiela supports and says should continue.

BLM and Antifa march in DC, threaten to 'burn down' Washington
On Saturday night, members of BLM and Antifa protested in D.C., where they regularly chanted, "If we don't get it, burn it down!"
https://www.theblaze.com/news/washington-dc-protest-antifa-blm

 

[Kentuckiddy]

Most of this fan base is Morons. Look at this thread for example. Kentucky basketball is good year in and year out, except for this year when basically none of the top programs are good. Duke and UNC meet unranked for the first time in 50 years, a literal pandemic destroyed the off season so all these teams that are usually up to par by now just aren’t. Half this board thinks Allen is some god because he can sometimes shoot the 3, some on here now think Billy Gillespie is the reason Cal has a title here. Absolute Morons.

Ha. “Good” year in, year out.

That’s exactly the problem. Fans like you that are ok with elite eights and an occasional FF.

Kentucky is about NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS!!

You know, like Alabama football. THATS who we are. Not sh**ty basketball especially the last five years. Cal is a terrible in game coach and he’s proved it this year more than ever with his terrible substitutions and not playing the obvious better players.

Get a clue son.

Edit* take your loser mentality to Loserville.

 

[Dr. H Lecter]

My brother holds a pretty elite elected government/Law enforcement position in the Republican Party in Kentucky. He and I are blood, but we go at it often. The funny thing is....we actually agree on about 90 percent of things. And can usually find compromise on most of the other 10 percent. Maybe 2 percent of things we just can't seem to ever get there and have to just agree to disagree. When that happens, I always just tell him that I win because I'm mom's favorite and we just laugh it off.

If it helps....we disagree but you do not do so disagreeably. I think you are a good guy....simply wrong. But that is okay.

 

[JwUKFan11]

Ha. “Good” year in, year out.

That’s exactly the problem. Fans like you that are ok with elite eights and an occasional FF.

Kentucky is about NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS!!

You know, like Alabama football. THATS who we are. Not sh**ty basketball especially the last five years. Cal is a terrible in game coach and he’s proved it this year more than ever with his terrible substitutions and not playing the obvious better players.

Get a clue son.

Edit* take your loser mentality to Loserville.

You are so dumb it hurts “son” It’s impossible to be as dominant as Alabama has been the past 10 years because of how different the sports are and how teams are set up. No team in basketball has ever been as dominant as Alabama football and won’t be, if you we should be winning a national championship every other year then you are the problem.

 

[Kentuckiddy]

You are so dumb it hurts “son” It’s impossible to be as dominant as Alabama has been the past 10 years because of how different the sports are and how teams are set up. No team in basketball has ever been as dominant as Alabama football and won’t be, if you we should be winning a national championship every other year then you are the problem.

Loser mentality son. I’m ashamed you’re a Kentucky fan.

 

[JwUKFan11]

Loser mentality son. I’m ashamed you’re a Kentucky fan.

You’re just ignorant

 

[ruppcat]

You are so dumb it hurts “son” It’s impossible to be as dominant as Alabama has been the past 10 years because of how different the sports are and how teams are set up. No team in basketball has ever been as dominant as Alabama football and won’t be, if you we should be winning a national championship every other year then you are the problem.

UCLA during the mid/late 60s and early 70??

 

[KyFaninNC]

The BLM rioters were angry because someone in their community was unarmed, shot or strangled to death by a police officer.
The rioters at the Capitol were angry because their candidate in a democracy lost a free and fair election.

Yeah, you are right...not even a close comparison.

[roll]

 

[JwUKFan11]

UCLA during the mid/late 60s and early 70??

You mean when they were paying everyone? That’s also 50-60 years ago. Times are obviously not the same

 

[kyjeff1]

You are so dumb it hurts “son” It’s impossible to be as dominant as Alabama has been the past 10 years because of how different the sports are and how teams are set up. No team in basketball has ever been as dominant as Alabama football and won’t be, if you we should be winning a national championship every other year then you are the problem.

You're right, the sports ARE different, but Alabama plays in the SEC, the toughest football conference by a mile. Just getting to the playoff is incredibly hard, every game is an "NCAAT game". Winning titles in football is incredibly hard, especially coming out of the SEC. In my opinion, it’s more difficult to win a football title than it is a basketball title.

Also, it’s certainly not "impossible" to be as dominant as Alabama is, UCLA won 8 titles in 10 years.

UK has all the ingredients it takes to be a dominant program, but this coach uses those advantages to get kids drafted that were already getting drafted prior to coming here.

If he was about winning games and titles, guys like Whitney and Boston wouldn't get the minutes they got/get. Allen makes a mistake, he might sit the rest of the game, Boston can make 3 mistakes on every possession and he might come out for a play or two.

So yeah, you're partially correct, going on a run like Bama football has been on, is impossible… .. for UK. We'll never sniff another title as long as Cal is coach. He is taking away all of the things that made UK great, one by one. One of these days, Cal fans, like you, will wake up and see what's happening here.

 

[kyjeff1]

You mean when they were paying everyone? That’s also 50-60 years ago. Times are obviously not the same

You said it was impossible, it happened in the 60's, yeah, times are different, but why couldn't a program go on a run in the modern era?

 

[kyjeff1]

You mean when they were paying everyone? That’s also 50-60 years ago. Times are obviously not the same

Here's an example of a program (UK) that could have gone on an Alabama football type title run.

-2010: Most talent, should have won it all
-2011: a bucket away from the title game, should have won it
-2012: won the title
-2014: most talented team in the country, made the title game, should have won
-2015: yeah, you know the deal here
-2017: 2nd best team in the country that had the best team beat, should have won.
-2019: coaching mistakes and missed free throws derailed what could have been another title

That's 7 legit chances in 10 years. Cal has had, by far, the most talent on that timeframe and only came away with 1 title. He should be embarrassed. He’s never going to get that collection of talent ever again. If he can't win a title with Wall, Fox, Randle, Towns/Ulis/Booker/Twins and Monk, he's not going to win it with the feds he's bringing in now.

 

[Kentuckiddy]

You’re just ignorant

Not a good reply son...actually a terrible take to begin with.

 

[JumperJack]

Unholy alliance=Conspiracy theories.....Zero facts.....No legal proof. Just stop with the QAnonsense. Fox and Newsmax have stopped repeating the lies because they know it will cost them $$$$$ and won't stand judicial scrutiny.
You have been lied to my friend, but still don't realize it. Just because you see it on a meme, on Facebook or on Twitter doesn't mean it is true. Until there is verifiable proof shown in a court of law....it is FAKE NEWS.

There is now a Time Magazine article confirming that the election was indeed tampered with. Get your head out of your ***.

 

[sambowieshin_rivals]

If it helps....we disagree but you do not do so disagreeably. I think you are a good guy....simply wrong. But that is okay.

Same for you as well buddy

 

[daveroh]

I dont actively root against us , but I’ve never seen Karma so visible . She usually works in the background , but karma isn’t going to let JC destroy a player without getting visited , early and often . It’s a unreal spot .. I’ve rooted for the Cats and bled blood for 50 years , and I loathe , I mean loathe John Calapari

I would like JC if he quit tomorrow.