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I'm not hoping we lose

I just don't care that much at this point.

I have some level of admiration for the people that still say anything positive, I think they're crazy, but they still care.

I was angry about it a few games back because I held out hope it could be fixed and salvage the season. Now its clear nothing is going to get fixed, we're going to see the same game played every time until this season mercifully ends.

The players know the season is over too. At some point soon, if not already, every one of them is going to take stock in what it means to be a Kentucky basketball player in 2021
Perfect. 100%
 

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"US ffinancial Center of the world

WOW...that last sentence is rich! Right out of the CDP playbook, but you are right on one thing ...aboration is murder!!! Check the science . I am a heartbeat guy. You are living in lala land following the CDP. By the end of Kamela's 1st term in 2024 China will be the major epic center of the financial world.
I do not need to look at a playbook. You are too pessimistic and narrow minded for me to care what you think.
 

Dr. H Lecter

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My son just graduated from college (UK) and is far from a liberal kid. Not one time did he mention any of the garbage you alluded to above. Are there lefty liberal professors out there? Of course. Always have been, always will be. But the widespread and organized push to turn our country into a communist regime is just far right wing propaganda spread by far right wing media to the gullible and paranoid.
Just consider this fact for a second. If the left was as hell bent as you say on moving to communism/socialism....why was Bernie Sanders rejected by the democratic party resoundingly in two straight election cycles?? He is much more liberal and socialist leaning than Joe Biden or Hillary Clinton. That makes no sense if what you say is true.
Could it possibly be because Dems aren't nearly as whacked out liberal as you say and that YOU are the one being fed spoonfuls of lies on a daily basis?
More food for thought.....
Dems are socialist/communists.....but we reject Bernie Sanders as a Presidential candidate.
The voting machines are rigged......but Dominion and other major voting machine companies are now suing Fox News and Rudy Giuliani for libel in court for millions of dollars. Would they really want it going to court where real evidence MUST be produced if they were really cheating?
The election was stolen.....Zero, zip nada court cases to back up this claim. ZERO....
Why is Newsmax now shutting down the My Pillow guy and their anchors walking off the set to show they don't support his claims of election fraud?? Is Newsmax now part of the vast conspiracy or do they just want to stay out of court where they will be held accountable for their BS??
***Give this sane Republican a listen my friend......You have been duped but just haven't realized it yet. Kinda like when Trump told his rabid insurrection crowd that he will be "Walking with you to the Capitol building"...but didn't because the con man knew better.


Bernie Sanders is the driving ideological force in the Dem Party. That is unquestionably the case. He lost because TWICE the Dem party organization held their thumb on the scale. Again not debatable. Super Delegates all for Hillary. Giving her the debate questions. And 2019 the same thing. But in the end Bernie is the driving force with getting the young voters and energy that Biden never has had.
 

ukalum1988

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Back to the topic at hand, I have my own personal case of Calipari fatigue. I believe he had earned the right to fix this mess, but the question is, can he or will he?
 

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Vast majority of Dems are also opposed to abortion with no limits. They just don't think it should be completely outlawed.
Are you saying you would outlaw all abortion even in instances of rape, incest and the mother's health? You do realize it would still occur on the black market for those with money if completely outlawed.
I believe in personal responsibility...what % of abortions come from rape and incest? Very , very minute I'm guessing and the mother's health is a totally different topic. I don't like it as a form of birth control. Be responsible . Doesn't PP birth control and condoms for free.
 

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I do not need to look at a playbook. You are too pessimistic and narrow minded for me to care what you think.
As I don't give shiSs what you think...if you can live with the blood of little babies on your hands...GOD help you@
 
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As I don't give shiSs what you think...if you can live with the blood of little babies on your hands...GOD help you@
I have no idea what you are talking about. You must be responding to someone else. But, by the way, Aunt Lydia, you misspelled ****.
 

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I can not actually hope they lose. But after the kneeling, I don’t care that they lose. I see it as karma. When I saw that, I made it clear on here that I would not watch another game, and I haven’t. I hope the whole team and coaching staff leave. Just a pathetic display of ignorance as to who they are representing.

Ok. Done reading this thread without responding to this point of view.
On BLM: Were your ancestors enslaved? Were any of them lynched? We’re they denied voting rights YEARS after it was guaranteed to them by the Constitution? We’re they denied access to Levitowns and other suburbs because of their race? Were they denied loans based on their race backed up by Federal Policy?

Quick accurate recap of our history vis a vis the African American experience (the fact that I feel compelled to mention that I am a white male age 52 only strengthens my points).

Enslaved them
Disenfranchised them
Worked hard to keep them out of good schools
Worked hard to keep them out of colleges (and pro sports)
Segregated them in material ways (housing, employment etc.)

In short, we made it nearly impossible for them to succeed, THEN blame them for their lack of success.

That’s not all I got, but it’s a start.

On communism/Socialism. You can’t even define the terms so why bother?
 
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sluggercatfan

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I have no idea what you are talking about. You must be responding to someone else. But, by the way, Aunt Lydia, you misspelled ****.
Go up about 10 post that you answered to one of mine...
 
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I believe in personal responsibility...what % of abortions come from rape and incest? Very , very minute I'm guessing and the mother's health is a totally different topic. I don't like it as a form of birth control. Be responsible . Doesn't PP birth control and condoms for free.
I actually agree with you for the most part. What bothers me is that Republicans stir up their base constantly calling Dems baby killers knowing full well it will Never be completely outlawed, nor should it be for reasons we both agree on.
 
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Bernie Sanders is the driving ideological force in the Dem Party. That is unquestionably the case. He lost because TWICE the Dem party organization held their thumb on the scale. Again not debatable. Super Delegates all for Hillary. Giving her the debate questions. And 2019 the same thing. But in the end Bernie is the driving force with getting the young voters and energy that Biden never has had.
Bernie lost the primary vote period. He didn't get as many votes as Hillary or Joe. Of course the Dem party did all they could to promote the more moderate candidates as they should. The country is center right and the Dem party knows it can't win a national election with a far left candidate. That's also the reason Trump lost....he moved waaaaaay too far right into My Pillow land.
 

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Ok. Done reading this thread without responding to this point of view.
On BLM: Were your ancestors enslaved? Were any of them lynched? We’re they denied voting rights YEARS after it was guaranteed to them by the Constitution? We’re they denied access to Levitowns and other suburbs because of their race? Were they denied loans based on their race backed up by Federal Policy?

Quick accurate recap of our history vis a vis the African American experience (the fact that I feel compelled to mention that I am a white male age 52 only strengthens my points).

Enslaved them
Disenfranchised them
Worked hard to keep them out of good schools
Worked hard to keep them out of colleges (and pro sports)
Segregated them in material ways (housing, employment etc.)

In short, we made it nearly impossible for them to succeed, THEN blame them for their lack of success.

That’s not all I got, but it’s a start.

On communism/Socialism. You can’t even define the terms so why bother?
 
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sluggercatfan

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I actually agree with you for the most part. What bothers me is that Republicans stir up their base constantly calling Dems baby killers knowing full well it will Never be completely outlawed, nor should it be for reasons we both agree on.
Remember what Clinton said about abortion...I'm paraphrasing, but I believe he said for it to be safe , legal and RARE. Guess 2 out of 3 ain't bad, huh? Margaret Sanger would be proud of the CDP.
 
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Ok. Done reading this thread without responding to this point of view.
On BLM: Were your ancestors enslaved? Were any of them lynched? We’re they denied voting rights YEARS after it was guaranteed to them by the Constitution? We’re they denied access to Levitowns and other suburbs because of their race? Were they denied loans based on their race backed up by Federal Policy?

Quick accurate recap of our history vis a vis the African American experience (the fact that I feel compelled to mention that I am a white male age 52 only strengthens my points).

Enslaved them
Disenfranchised them
Worked hard to keep them out of good schools
Worked hard to keep them out of colleges (and pro sports)
Segregated them in material ways (housing, employment etc.)

In short, we made it nearly impossible for them to succeed, THEN blame them for their lack of success.

That’s not all I got, but it’s a start.

On communism/Socialism. You can’t even define the terms so why bother?
Not worthy of a response if you are listing stuff that ended in 1864, then again in 1964.
 

Dr. H Lecter

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Bernie lost the primary vote period. He didn't get as many votes as Hillary or Joe. Of course the Dem party did all they could to promote the more moderate candidates as they should. The country is center right and the Dem party knows it can't win a national election with a far left candidate. That's also the reason Trump lost....he moved waaaaaay too far right into My Pillow land.

Do you deny that the ideological center of the Dems are Bernie, AOC and their ilk? Be honest. Biden was the electable candidate. You must win to then allow AOC and Bernie to have their agenda moved forward.
 
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Do you deny that the ideological center of the Dems are Bernie, AOC and their ilk? Be honest. Biden was the electable candidate. You must win to then allow AOC and Bernie to have their agenda moved forward.
There is obviously a good chunk of the Dem party that believes in Bernie's ideology but it is not the majority. Just like there is a sizable chunk of the Republican party that believes in conspiracy theories and QANonsense but not the majority.
I do think both parties are more and more driven by the lunatic fringes which is terrible for our country.
 
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You actually proved my point with the video. The vast majority of Dems are not nearly as liberal as they are portrayed by the right wing media. The kooky far right uses abortion and scare tactics to keep the Republican base shaking in their boots and scared out of their minds every day that the Dems are coming for their guns, their church and their children.
NONE of that is going to happen.
Taxes may go up some for the wealthy, more immigrants might be accepted in, alternative sources of energy may get more tax dollars which might impact gas prices and the minimum wage may rise leading to a slight increase in the cost of fast food and groceries.
Other than that, I doubt you will see much else change.
You might even enjoy a break from the conspiracy theories, lies, non-stop anger baiting and tweets.
Ah, so as you've pointed out the Dems are going to do the following: raise taxes, allow more ILLEGAL immigrants in to suck our country dry, higher gas prices, groceries and retail food costs will be going up.....wow, sounds like a veritable Utopia.....NOT.

But, according to you, "you doubt we will see much else". Well kiss my ***, I think that's enough damage from the lunatic Democrats for one term. Good grief.
 
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Ah, so as you've pointed out the Dems are going to do the following: raise taxes, allow more ILLEGAL immigrants in to suck our country dry, higher gas prices, groceries and retail food costs will be going up.....wow, sounds like a veritable Utopia.....NOT.

But, according to you, "you doubt we will see much else". Well kiss my ***, I think that's enough damage from the lunatic Democrats for one term. Good grief.
*Taxes should be raised on people like Trump that pay almost nothing in taxes.
*We need immigrants...have you seen all the help wanted signs at fast food restaurants, grocery stores, construction and distribution centers? Take taxes out of their checks like all of us.
*Gas prices will rise because of supply/demand and people getting back to normal after the vaccine.
*Minimum wage hike will likely bring a slight increase in fast food and grocery prices.
None of that is nearly as dire as you say.
Btw...most of the world now sees the national GOP as the lunatic party with all their whacked out conspiracy theories, attacks on our democracy and nut jobs like Trump and MTG.
The Dems are now seen as the sane adults running things.
 
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*Taxes should be raised on people like Trump that pay almost nothing in taxes.
*We need immigrants...have you seen all the help wanted signs at fast food restaurants, grocery stores, construction and distribution centers? Take taxes out of their checks like all of us.
*Gas prices will rise because of supply/demand and people getting back to normal after the vaccine.
*Minimum wage hike will likely bring a slight increase in fast food and grocery prices.
None of that is nearly as dire as you say.
Btw...most of the world now sees the national GOP as the lunatic party with all their whacked out conspiracy theories, attacks on our democracy and nut jobs like Trump and MTG.
The Dems are now seen as the sane adults running things.
this thread was painting a dark portrait of KY and UK fans.......sam just turned on the light.
 

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I never cheer for the Cats to lose although I have realized for sometime that this season is a lost cause. But, I'll be watching tonight and hoping they beat the Vols and beat them badly. Will that happen? Probably not but I'm not ever going against them.
 

Dr. H Lecter

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There is obviously a good chunk of the Dem party that believes in Bernie's ideology but it is not the majority. Just like there is a sizable chunk of the Republican party that believes in conspiracy theories and QANonsense but not the majority.
I do think both parties are more and more driven by the lunatic fringes which is terrible for our country.

Where we disagree is your belief that a 'sizable chunk" of tjw GOP believes Qnonsense while in comparison a "good chunk" of tje Dems believe in Bernie Socialism. You could be playing word games giving you the ability to claim that you never actually quantified either. I am not going to let you do that. So please on an actual percentage basis....give me your estimation. Just so I am clear...I have been GOP and politically active and aware for a very long time. Until this last election season I had never even heard of Q and some connection of it to GOP beliefs. Bernie and the Socialist agenda has garnered millions of votes nationwide. So the comparison you make is apples-oranges. IMO. But please quantify for me.
 

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Why do so many on this board have such a dramatic problem with black folks expressing themselves? Honestly. I sincerely don't get it. It's almost, and I know this can't be true, that this board is filled with racists that exemplify the stereotypes of the south. And don't give me the disrespecting the flag nonsense, because that doesn't make any sense and most of these same support Trump who called dead vets losers, mocked a war hero and called our generals war mongers.
I believe you watch blazing saddles all day and think that's how people really are.
 
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Wildcat my whole life. What those young men are putting on the court right now is ugly confusing ball. Is it chemistry, ego, Cal, Kenny Payne, I don’t know. Maybe it’s me. Maybe theyre just not good together. But whatever it is, it’s blanking painful to watch.
 
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Where we disagree is your belief that a 'sizable chunk" of tjw GOP believes Qnonsense while in comparison a "good chunk" of tje Dems believe in Bernie Socialism. You could be playing word games giving you the ability to claim that you never actually quantified either. I am not going to let you do that. So please on an actual percentage basis....give me your estimation. Just so I am clear...I have been GOP and politically active and aware for a very long time. Until this last election season I had never even heard of Q and some connection of it to GOP beliefs. Bernie and the Socialist agenda has garnered millions of votes nationwide. So the comparison you make is apples-oranges. IMO. But please quantify for me.
I'd say about 5 percent of Republicans truly believe in a secret Q figure working within the government to save them. It's a much larger group than you may realize. Many don't believe all the QANonsense like Democrats being pedophile canibals, but a good chunk believes enough to elect a lunatic like MTG down in Ga.
Until recently, over 50 percent of Republicans believed the lie that Trump won the election, it was stolen by rigged voting machines and other nonsense, but that number is dropping quickly as Fox News and NewsMax have started firing the liars and stopped spreading that lie to cover their asses from billions in lawsuits now rolling their way.
Obviously, less than half of Dems identify with Bernie's ideology or he would have been the one running against Trump. But you are correct...it is a good chunk of Dems.
The big difference I see between the extremes of both parties is that the far left is driven much more by a political ideology (movement toward socialist ideas/redistribution of wealth) while the far right is currently living in a bizarre alternate reality grounded in lies. Enough that thousands were driven to attack our Capitol and attempt to overturn a democratic election.
Not really saying one extreme is better than the other but I guess a case could be made for reality vs fantasy even if the results of either ideology are bad for America.
It's real frustrating trying to debate someone living in an alternate reality devoid of factual information.
I'm definitely much more comfortable in the slightly left or right of center zone.....
 

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I'd say about 5 percent of Republicans truly believe in a secret Q figure working within the government to save them. It's a much larger group than you may realize. Many don't believe all the QANonsense like Democrats being pedophile canibals, but a good chunk believes enough to elect a lunatic like MTG down in Ga.
Until recently, over 50 percent of Republicans believed the lie that Trump won the election, it was stolen by rigged voting machines and other nonsense, but that number is dropping quickly as Fox News and NewsMax have started firing the liars and stopped spreading that lie to cover their asses from billions in lawsuits now rolling their way.
Obviously, less than half of Dems identify with Bernie's ideology or he would have been the one running against Trump. But you are correct...it is a good chunk of Dems.
The big difference I see between the extremes of both parties is that the far left is driven much more by a political ideology (movement toward socialist ideas/redistribution of wealth) while the far right is currently living in a bizarre alternate reality grounded in lies. Enough that thousands were driven to attack our Capitol and attempt to overturn a democratic election.
Not really saying one extreme is better than the other but I guess a case could be made for reality vs fantasy even if the results of either ideology are bad for America.
It's real frustrating trying to debate someone living in an alternate reality devoid of factual information.
I'm definitely much more comfortable in the slightly left or right of center zone.....

It is unfair and wrong to say that MTG's district voted for her BECAUSE of her Social media posting or supporting the Qnonsense. She is in a very GOPsafe district just like the equally crazy Squad are Demwise. Do we need to share the litany of awful things believed and shared by Illhan Omar for example? AOSmolette? Mad Maxine Waters? Only the media protection and double standards save them. MTG is not the willing supported face of the GOP like AOC is for the left. Though MTG is promoted by the left as being it in order to marginalize. AOC receives glowing coverage...even as it is revealed that she is a marvelous farceur.

Do you ignore now that nearly 50% and maybe more of the Dems believed that Putin and Russia directly colluded to rig the 2016 election? That lead to 4 years of investigations and tearing apart any possibility that this nation would embrace or believe that elections are free. The nation saw the Dems for 4 years saying Russia tampered so why do you think it is wrong that 50% of the GOP believed the same was possible here? Reap meet sow.

Be careful for what you wish. The censorship and cancelling that the left is foisting on the right....well if it goes around it comes around.
 
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It is unfair and wrong to say that MTG's district voted for her BECAUSE of her Social media posting or supporting the Qnonsense. She is in a very GOPsafe district just like the equally crazy Squad are Demwise. Do we need to share the litany of awful things believed and shared by Illhan Omar for example? AOSmolette? Mad Maxine Waters? Only the media protection and double standards save them. MTG is not the willing supported face of the GOP like AOC is for the left. Though MTG is promoted by the left as being it in order to marginalize. AOC receives glowing coverage...even as it is revealed that she is a marvelous farceur.

Do you ignore now that nearly 50% and maybe more of the Dems believed that Putin and Russia directly colluded to rig the 2016 election? That lead to 4 years of investigations and tearing apart any possibility that this nation would embrace or believe that elections are free. The nation saw the Dems for 4 years saying Russia tampered so why do you think it is wrong that 50% of the GOP believed the same was possible here? Reap meet sow.

Be careful for what you wish. The censorship and cancelling that the left is foisting on the right....well if it goes around it comes around.
Russia did tamper with the last election...and probably this one as well. They tampered via spreading false social media memes and by trying nonstop to hack into our systems. This is a verifiable fact. The Trump run FBI and the GOP controlled Senate panel both found that Russia absolutely did try to interfere on Trump's behalf in the 2016 election.
We need to separate the election tampering charge from the collusion charge because they are two very different things.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fi...were-accurate-and-on-point-senate-intel-panel
As far as collusion....that is definitely much harder to prove and a case the Dems probably should have never made unless they had damn good evidence which they did not. Same goes for the GOP with respect to election fraud claims. The Dems had a lot of smoke but no gun. Trump is a lot of things but stupid is not one of them. He is too smart to get caught on tape or otherwise colluding with the Russians if he even was colluding. Bottom line....just not enough evidence to charge him with this.
That said, Trump didn't help himself by publicly asking Russia to find damaging Hillary Clinton emails and having his son meet privately with a Kremlin connected lawyer and a Russian spy..... as well as Trump meeting with high level Russians with no certified recorders or state department personnel present.


As far as AOC, Omar and Maxine Waters goes....I agree with you completely and don't support them any more than someone like MTG.
I'll throw in my dislike for Nancy Pelosi as well but more for her divisiveness than her far left policies or insanity. I would much rather have Joe Manchin as the face of the Dem party than Nancy Pelosi.
 

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How many of you find yourself in a deep dark part of your gut....find yourself in a situation like today, hoping we lose. Ever since the Kneel I basically stop caring about the team...and now watching this stihshow continue there is this little voice in my head pulling for us to lose. I cannot believe its come to that but just between us boys....I bet I am not the only one. The players aside from Allen are not likable at all and Cal.....oh boy I really want him to go. So if we can all keep a secret does anyone feel like I do. It must really get worse before it can get better. Spare me the "I'm blue till I die and will never give up ont them." Whatever. Then enjoy this rolling train wreck that will not improve as long as the current regime is in charge.
As much as I am against the kneeling during the anthem, I won’t ever enjoy or pull for the Cats to lose. I just can’t do it!
 
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More power to Cal and his kids expressing their views peacefully and demonstrating the power of democracy.
Would you prefer they do it the MAGA way and beat a cop over the head with the flag and attack the Capitol to express their views? Would you rather they burn down a police station BLM style to express their views?
Nobody has the power to control how people display patriotism in our democracy, nor should we. If you don't like kneeling, don't kneel. It's not communism....it's democracy.
Move to North Korea, Russia or China if you feel that strongly about enforcing patriotic flag observance. Maybe you'd prefer it there where you don't have a choice.
I would prefer they protest before the anthem and after the anthem not during the anthem. They do have the right to do it, and I have the right to not like it. I still hope they play well and realize their dreams!
 
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Ok. Done reading this thread without responding to this point of view.
On BLM: Were your ancestors enslaved? Were any of them lynched? We’re they denied voting rights YEARS after it was guaranteed to them by the Constitution? We’re they denied access to Levitowns and other suburbs because of their race? Were they denied loans based on their race backed up by Federal Policy?

Quick accurate recap of our history vis a vis the African American experience (the fact that I feel compelled to mention that I am a white male age 52 only strengthens my points).

Enslaved them
Disenfranchised them
Worked hard to keep them out of good schools
Worked hard to keep them out of colleges (and pro sports)
Segregated them in material ways (housing, employment etc.)

In short, we made it nearly impossible for them to succeed, THEN blame them for their lack of success.

That’s not all I got, but it’s a start.

On communism/Socialism. You can’t even define the terms so why bother?
Nothing to disagree with here
 

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*Taxes should be raised on people like Trump that pay almost nothing in taxes.
*We need immigrants...have you seen all the help wanted signs at fast food restaurants, grocery stores, construction and distribution centers? Take taxes out of their checks like all of us.
*Gas prices will rise because of supply/demand and people getting back to normal after the vaccine.
*Minimum wage hike will likely bring a slight increase in fast food and grocery prices.
None of that is nearly as dire as you say.
Btw...most of the world now sees the national GOP as the lunatic party with all their whacked out conspiracy theories, attacks on our democracy and nut jobs like Trump and MTG.
The Dems are now seen as the sane adults running things.
Man you are totally brain washed...Trump was kicking a$$ till the China virus and ALL boats were rising. Do a little research who does the most tax paying in the country. Damn, what is in that CDP water?
 

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Even when my parents were at UK, it was norm to not have black players on team. And that’s crazy to me. If you read this thread in full, I would appear provocative. But my only point is that racism is ********. And if I offend people stating that, I don’t care. It’s just right.