Just back from game

Husker.Wed._rivals

All-Conference
Feb 13, 2004
17,651
3,706
98
Different staff, same result. Went away from effective running game - check. Clock management - check. Personal foul at the worst possible time - check. False start at worse possible time check. Letting up with lead check. Crowd taken out of the game early check. Porous pass defense - check. Losing turnover margin in a big way - check. Special teams gaffs - check. Losing to a marginal team who wanted it more - check.

Not that all the above can't change, I'm hoping it will. But I didn't see much new today.
 

Lincoln100

All-Conference
Jun 16, 2010
12,989
2,077
0
Different staff, same result. Went away from effective running game - check. Clock management - check. Personal foul at the worst possible time - check. False start at worse possible time check. Letting up with lead check. Crowd taken out of the game early check. Porous pass defense - check. Losing turnover margin in a big way - check. Special teams gaffs - check. Losing to a marginal team who wanted it more - check.

Not that all the above can't change, I'm hoping it will. But I didn't see much new today.

If you can’t see the difference, you are beyond helpless.
 

bigboxes

All-American
Sep 4, 2004
46,233
6,777
113
crappy fans - check

Are you discouraging any negative assessment following a loss? You have a counter to the OP's argument other than he's a crappy fan?

We're talking about a young team. These things will be worked on. A freshman QB in his first start had a couple of turnovers. It may have cost the game in the end. However, you had to be loving it when it clicked on both offense and defense.
 
  • Like
Reactions: WoodRiverJennings

mgbreeze

All-Conference
Dec 16, 2004
10,113
3,575
113
Are you discouraging any negative assessment following a loss? You have a counter to the OP's argument other than he's a crappy fan?

Did I say he is a crappy fan??? Are you blind, or do you disagree that this board is loaded with crappy fans tonight? He listed off all the things he saw that are the same as usual, I added one to the list. And yes, it's my opinion that if you're ready to take a position on this team after one freaking game, then you're not much of a fan.
 

SoFL Husker

All-Conference
Sep 16, 2017
8,101
3,691
0
Different staff, same result. Went away from effective running game - check. Clock management - check. Personal foul at the worst possible time - check. False start at worse possible time check. Letting up with lead check. Crowd taken out of the game early check. Porous pass defense - check. Losing turnover margin in a big way - check. Special teams gaffs - check. Losing to a marginal team who wanted it more - check.

Not that all the above can't change, I'm hoping it will. But I didn't see much new today.

When a fanbase gets it's *** kicked for so long, you forget what to look for.

It's like watching a rerun and the ending sucks, but the game is actually played very very differently. GBR
 

Sodakred

All-Conference
Jul 31, 2018
3,033
1,204
113
Disagree with OP. Great potential for at least a winning record with AM reasonably healthy such that he can run the entire offense.

I just hope they don't mess around with his injury, play him hobbled and hurt our chances next season when we figure to have a much better chance to make hay.
 
  • Like
Reactions: GoBluePureMichigan

HuskerPower10

All-Conference
Oct 24, 2009
14,387
3,108
113
Different staff, same result. Went away from effective running game - check. Clock management - check. Personal foul at the worst possible time - check. False start at worse possible time check. Letting up with lead check. Crowd taken out of the game early check. Porous pass defense - check. Losing turnover margin in a big way - check. Special teams gaffs - check. Losing to a marginal team who wanted it more - check.

Not that all the above can't change, I'm hoping it will. But I didn't see much new today.

since we are the same ole team, I am curious if you have any tickets you want to unload?
 

yunginsNU2

All-Conference
May 24, 2006
4,737
1,030
0
I saw it a little different..
* a qb that definately earned the starting job.. check
* a defense that yes gave up asome big plays in the air but flew to the ball.. played so much better than any defense fielded all last year.. im ok making mistakes if they are flying around like that
* a team that got down by 2 tds after 2 quick turnovers and still managed to battle back..
* a team that made some terrible mistakes coaches and players both..but we force even 1 turnover we win that game.. thats how i see it.
 

mgbreeze

All-Conference
Dec 16, 2004
10,113
3,575
113
If you can't see the difference between pointing out what was wrong (no issue with it) and the cockroaches on this board tonight, then I apologize.
 

SoFL Husker

All-Conference
Sep 16, 2017
8,101
3,691
0
I saw it a little different..
* a qb that definately earned the starting job.. check
* a defense that yes gave up asome big plays in the air but flew to the ball.. played so much better than any defense fielded all last year.. im ok making mistakes if they are flying around like that
* a team that got down by 2 tds after 2 quick turnovers and still managed to battle back..
* a team that made some terrible mistakes coaches and players both..but we force even 1 turnover we win that game.. thats how i see it.

Does anyone on this board think their QB hit some ridculously small windows, or did we just suck in coverage all night?

Because I saw the former, to legit Buff receivers, who are probably going to make a run at the Pac 12 South this year with SC and UCLA down.
 

VMann187

Junior
Apr 3, 2006
867
328
63
Did I say he is a crappy fan??? Are you blind, or do you disagree that this board is loaded with crappy fans tonight? He listed off all the things he saw that are the same as usual, I added one to the list. And yes, it's my opinion that if you're ready to take a position on this team after one freaking game, then you're not much of a fan.
 

bigboxes

All-American
Sep 4, 2004
46,233
6,777
113
Did I say he is a crappy fan??? Are you blind, or do you disagree that this board is loaded with crappy fans tonight? He listed off all the things he saw that are the same as usual, I added one to the list. And yes, it's my opinion that if you're ready to take a position on this team after one freaking game, then you're not much of a fan.

This place falls to pieces after every loss. I'm just going to be patient with this staff. I saw a lot of good. However, I don't have a problem with anyone who wants to discuss what actually happened. As long as they don't commit board suicide, I don't have a problem with some else's perspective.

HW has been a good poster. He is not a troll.
 

timnsun

All-American
Jan 25, 2008
13,815
7,519
3
Lol I like how pointing out what was wrong makes you a crappy fan. "You either love everything they do or you're a fake fan! You better cheer for those fumbles next time!"
Just a matter of perspective. Some choose to focus on the good things (550+ yards of offense, 7 sacks, held them to under 50 yards rushing), and some choose to focus on the negative (see OP).

We can’t ignore the negative, but man, there sure seem to be more negative posts on the board tonight than positive. A loss is a loss, but last year those losses felt a whole lot different. If we don’t clean things up, these predominantly negative threads are warranted.

I just don’t understand the negativity when this was our first game and a lot of good things happened as well.

It is a free board, and people can choose to focus on whatever they want I guess.
 

mountainmann

Freshman
Dec 13, 2009
604
53
0
There were some horrific gaffs by the staff in the final minutes. Time MGMT is one of the biggest. Ask ATL about that when they lost to NE in the SB. I couldn't believe it. When Brock H is lighting up the staff for not taking time, you've got issues. I deleted the tape but time MGMT is a big deal with a lead.



If you can’t see the difference, you are beyond helpless.
 

Antwill

All-Conference
Dec 18, 2004
4,450
1,085
113
No offense, but if you came away from today not seeing differences from past teams and this one, I think you need to get your eyes checked.

The effort, passion, and speed this team played with on both sides of the ball was night and day different from last year.

I know it stinks to lose, but there is a ton to be hopeful about. The fact that Frost has done so much to change so many things for the better in such a short time is extremely impressive. This is a very young team playing their first game against a solid opponent. The future is BRIGHTER IN RED.
 

SeaOfRed75

All-Conference
Dec 5, 2010
3,220
1,143
113
There were some horrific gaffs by the staff in the final minutes. Time MGMT is one of the biggest. Ask ATL about that when they lost to NE in the SB. I couldn't believe it. When Brock H is lighting up the staff for not taking time, you've got issues. I deleted the tape but time MGMT is a big deal with a lead.
ATL was up BIG in the SB. When were we ever up BIG? Now missing the late field goal for us and the two fourth down conversions that sucked balls? Yes those sucked. Get points on those possessions and I could see talk of clock management. At the game it felt like the D gave the offense plenty of times to put a bow on it and they didnt. I never felt like it was time to go into slow play 4 minute offense time.
 

meo1960

Senior
Jan 15, 2003
20,005
849
113
Different staff, same result. Went away from effective running game - check. Clock management - check. Personal foul at the worst possible time - check. False start at worse possible time check. Letting up with lead check. Crowd taken out of the game early check. Porous pass defense - check. Losing turnover margin in a big way - check. Special teams gaffs - check. Losing to a marginal team who wanted it more - check.

Not that all the above can't change, I'm hoping it will. But I didn't see much new today.
Then your INCAPABLE of viewing "the glass as half full". Sure there were mistakes today, but this was GAME #1 and from where I was sitting, much to be hopeful for.

Simple Question:Was there improvement over last year?
Answer:Without a doubt.

You may not have seen it but Dinardo on BTN said that our defense looked to be 180 degrees improved from what it was last season. 7 sacks in game 1 vs. 14 for all of last season. I'd say that IMPROVEMENT any way you slice it.

And I cite Jerry Dinardo as an example that others can see improvement. I'm just wondering why you cannot?
 

meo1960

Senior
Jan 15, 2003
20,005
849
113
Just a matter of perspective. Some choose to focus on the good things (550+ yards of offense, 7 sacks, held them to under 50 yards rushing), and some choose to focus on the negative (see OP).

We can’t ignore the negative, but man, there sure seem to be more negative posts on the board tonight than positive. A loss is a loss, but last year those losses felt a whole lot different. If we don’t clean things up, these predominantly negative threads are warranted.

I just don’t understand the negativity when this was our first game and a lot of good things happened as well.

It is a free board, and people can choose to focus on whatever they want I guess.
The difference is that Riley was a 500 lifetime coach and we played like a 500 team. So where was the improvement going to come from.

Scott took a UCF team from avg to Undefeated in 2 years. We've already shown improvement in his first game as head coach. Many of the issues we had were of our own making and can be easily fixed. I'm excited to watch the improvement from week to week. UCF's D was often fairly porous. They just outscored most opponents. I wont be surprised if Chins Nebraska D mirrors his UCF D, which will again require the offense to outscore people. We just made too many mistakes on offense to secure the victory.
 

LUVNHAIGHT

Redshirt
Sep 15, 2013
62
29
0
Different staff, same result. Went away from effective running game - check. Clock management - check. Personal foul at the worst possible time - check. False start at worse possible time check. Letting up with lead check. Crowd taken out of the game early check. Porous pass defense - check. Losing turnover margin in a big way - check. Special teams gaffs - check. Losing to a marginal team who wanted it more - check.

Not that all the above can't change, I'm hoping it will. But I didn't see much new today.
Oh Jesus Christ already.. really? So mistake-free football from day 1 and every game after? K bruh.. wanna live on your planet football.. This staff is going to right the ship and when they do please stay lost.
 
Aug 1, 2002
2,940
380
0
A program that’s on the rise. Check. Now I’m not sure why we went away from the pressure defense in the 3rd quarter, but this isn’t near the B.S. we experienced the last 17 or so years. I am very encouraged. We dug ourselves a deep hole over time. We’ll get there. CU sucks.
 

Hoosker Du

All-American
Dec 11, 2001
44,018
5,171
0
Are you discouraging any negative assessment following a loss? You have a counter to the OP's argument other than he's a crappy fan?

We're talking about a young team. These things will be worked on. A freshman QB in his first start had a couple of turnovers. It may have cost the game in the end. However, you had to be loving it when it clicked on both offense and defense.

Yeah, after watching the 1st half, I honestly thought we were completely capable of blowing Colorado out in the 2nd half. We are physically that much better of a team than CU. We couldn't have gifted them the game in any more ways than we did. To me, missing the Akron game really did make a difference with taking care of the ball.

We owned the LOS on both sides of the ball. Colorado couldn't run the ball to save their asses, and they couldn't stop us from running the ball. The key difference was that our DBs were either giving too much of a cushion, or they just didn't have a good game. Lamar Jackson still needs to improve significantly.

At one point during the game, we could have just as easily been up 42-20 if we hadn't turned the ball over. We were moving the ball that well. Colorado has a good QB and some good receivers, but we gave this game away. No other way to put it.
 
Aug 6, 2009
15,511
9,089
0
Yeah, after watching the 1st half, I honestly thought we were completely capable of blowing Colorado out in the 2nd half. We are physically that much better of a team than CU. We couldn't have gifted them the game in any more ways than we did. To me, missing the Akron game really did make a difference with taking care of the ball.

We owned the LOS on both sides of the ball. Colorado couldn't run the ball to save their asses, and they couldn't stop us from running the ball. The key difference was that our DBs were either giving too much of a cushion, or they just didn't have a good game. Lamar Jackson still needs to improve significantly.

At one point during the game, we could have just as easily been up 42-20 if we hadn't turned the ball over. We were moving the ball that well. Colorado has a good QB and some good receivers, but we gave this game away. No other way to put it.
This. A bitterly disappointing game precisely because we really were the better team and should have won. I know it can often be a sour grapes thing to say, but in this case it really is true. We were the better team and gifted that game away.

Damn lightening. Had we played Akron I think we would have beaten CU going away....
 

bshirt73

Senior
Aug 31, 2014
2,853
806
0
Yeah, after watching the 1st half, I honestly thought we were completely capable of blowing Colorado out in the 2nd half. We are physically that much better of a team than CU. We couldn't have gifted them the game in any more ways than we did. To me, missing the Akron game really did make a difference with taking care of the ball.

We owned the LOS on both sides of the ball. Colorado couldn't run the ball to save their asses, and they couldn't stop us from running the ball. The key difference was that our DBs were either giving too much of a cushion, or they just didn't have a good game. Lamar Jackson still needs to improve significantly.

At one point during the game, we could have just as easily been up 42-20 if we hadn't turned the ball over. We were moving the ball that well. Colorado has a good QB and some good receivers, but we gave this game away. No other way to put it.

True enough sir. True enough......

1st game give away. I'm ok with what I watched if AM can bounce back. We "really" need him I think.
 

CatColumbia

All-Conference
Apr 19, 2014
5,934
3,140
0
If you can’t see the difference, you are beyond helpless.

He’s comparing to the 90’s and that can’t be done. We are so far removed from those days.

I did see a lot of positives. Our energy is up. I don’t really know how good Colorado is. This might turn out to be a good loss or one of those like BYU a few years back.

We do need to get that 12th game rescheduled though. And make it against a D-2 opponent, it will still count towards bowl qualifying.
 

Dadmaster

Junior
Dec 18, 2017
287
216
0
I would add that we maybe had expectations that were to high or not reasonable. This Colorado was not a great team...and we looked bad at certain times. I agree with all of the positive things everyone has posted. HOWEVER....the things that drove me crazy and what has been the same for years...was the lack of time management and how there was no ability to defend that pass to the flats.
Of course the improvement was evident on both sides of the ball. But when the results are the same it is difficult to really embrace the difference.
 

CatColumbia

All-Conference
Apr 19, 2014
5,934
3,140
0
I would add that we maybe had expectations that were to high or not reasonable. This Colorado was not a great team...and we looked bad at certain times. I agree with all of the positive things everyone has posted. HOWEVER....the things that drove me crazy and what has been the same for years...was the lack of time management and how there was no ability to defend that pass to the flats.
Of course the improvement was evident on both sides of the ball. But when the results are the same it is difficult to really embrace the difference.

I’m with you. The second Reed made that boneheaded play, I knew we were doomed. We just have to recruit and develop better going forward.
I still think year 3 of Frost is going to be damn good. Let’s give our coach and staff some time.
Making a bowl game is our ceiling for this year.
 

JAFFX2

Heisman
Sep 18, 2016
9,943
19,968
112
Different staff, same result. Went away from effective running game - check. Clock management - check. Personal foul at the worst possible time - check. False start at worse possible time check. Letting up with lead check. Crowd taken out of the game early check. Porous pass defense - check. Losing turnover margin in a big way - check. Special teams gaffs - check. Losing to a marginal team who wanted it more - check.

Not that all the above can't change, I'm hoping it will. But I didn't see much new today.
 
  • Like
Reactions: CameronKrazie86

redwine65

All-Conference
Jun 23, 2010
10,846
2,165
113
This. A bitterly disappointing game precisely because we really were the better team and should have won. I know it can often be a sour grapes thing to say, but in this case it really is true. We were the better team and gifted that game away.

Damn lightening. Had we played Akron I think we would have beaten CU going away....
I think the killer instinct is still void at NU. I don't think it's been around for at least 15 years.
hopefully frost can break the get 7 points up and think the game is over mentality.