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Showenuff

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Giles positive attitude is so infectious and you can tell he's working on bonding with his incoming team mates. You can literally sense his want for a Championship, love this kid already.
 
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matthew1

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Showenuff said:
Biancardi just said Giles is the best player there hands down. Said if he's healthy he'll be the #1 pick.
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He has an NBA body right now. He'll probably gain 5 to 10 pounds in a good strength program and be a 240ish pound monster. He is going to be fun to watch
 
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dbav

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I liked the Stat that Cal has the most ESPN 100 recruits of any coach. He's got a whole 1 NC to show for it. He may be the best coach in the country. :)
 
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dbav

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I feel like I haven't seen much Tatum, or have I just missed him?
 
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dbav

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And there he is with a dunk, haha. They just needed more Tatum.
 
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dbav

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I've seen Fultz play in 3 games. I'm yet to see him pass the ball once.
 
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Skysdad, I don't think it's an injury that will keep him out long but I'm betting its a fairly serious concussion, the back of his head hit the floor real hard.
 
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Monk is making a mistake. He needs at least a year of college to develop. He really doesnt even have a position right now does he?
 
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dbav

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It'll be nice when Bolden goes to college because someone may actually pass him the ball.
 
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Crank_it_loud

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Not sure it's a concussion but more of a strained cervical muscle/facet. Almost looked like a whiplash type injury. He will be sore for a bit.
 
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skysdad

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Showenuff said:
Skysdad, I don't think it's an injury that will keep him out long but I'm betting its a fairly serious concussion, the back of his head hit the floor real hard.
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Thanks. we've had enough of this type of thing. OFC
 
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Showenuff

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Man, having Harry Giles , Jayson Tatum and Grayson Allen on the court at the same time is going to have us on the edge of our seat constantly.
 
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skysdad

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Showenuff said:
Man, having Harry Giles , Jayson Tatum and Grayson Allen on the court at the same time is going to have us on the edge if our seat constantly.
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I'm so happy Grayson's coming back. He's a fighter and a warrior. He will be more mature and will be our leader next year. Watching the E-60 about Hurley made me appreciate him more and there's a lot of Hurley in Allen IMO. One more thing. I saw a lot of coach K in Hurley on the E-60 and it wasn't the profanity. It was FIRE AND DESIRE. Watch out college basketball world here comes Bobby Hurley. OFC
 
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df64

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Amazing how the same guys who played good team ball and great D for team USA can't come close to it in other all star games. K is such a selfish prick for creating a system where even kids who don't wind up going to Duke learn to commit to the team concept and play with discipline. So unfair to all the other college teams. Damn conspiracy, I tell ya.
 
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dbav said:
I liked the Stat that Cal has the most ESPN 100 recruits of any coach. He's got a whole 1 NC to show for it. He may be the best coach in the country. :)
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I'd hope that a Duke-affiliated person would have the logical wherewithal to account for both the input and the output of a system. Going by sheer number of incoming five star/burger boy level guys, UK's teams have been over twice as talented as Duke's over the past 7 years. Do you really believe that is the case? Obviously not - they both average around 6 per roster (go look for yourself) but UK requires more input to keep up with the output.
The reductio ad absurdum: Coach A's roster is comprised of 8 freshman five stars and he replaces them all annually with 8 more. Coach B's roster is 2 fr, 2 so, 2 jr, 2 sr five stars, and he replaces the 2 SRs with 2 fr every year. Is coach A's roster better? After all, he gets four times as many five stars as coach B!

Silly argument, right?

As for the title crack, there's another important logical concept to grasp - probability and the single-elimination tournament format. Coach K lost in '99 with 5 lottery picks including #1. It happens. If you gave Cal the talent K has had at Duke for the past 3 decades, does he win 5 titles over 30 years? Probably not, but so what? That just means he's not as good as the GOAT. Boo f'n hoo. Nobody in here believes he wouldn't have at least 2 or 3 in those 30 years, which would put him in incredibly elite historical company. He took squads w/ only 2 high major kids on each at UMASS and reeled off 5 straight tourney appearances, averaging 30 wins a season, 3 16s with a F4 + E8 at a school that had 1 tourney appearance before him, in 1962. The only coaches who have matched his current F4 streak are Wooden and K. He didn't forget how to coach.

Your guys are gonna be great. And because you have more high level guys coming back than we do (output of the system), I expect Duke '16-'17 to be better than UK. But the tourney is a devilish mistress.
 
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Jkwo said:
I'd hope that a Duke-affiliated person would have the logical wherewithal to account for both the input and the output of a system. Going by sheer number of incoming five star/burger boy level guys, UK's teams have been over twice as talented as Duke's over the past 7 years. Do you really believe that is the case? Obviously not - they both average around 6 per roster (go look for yourself) but UK requires more input to keep up with the output.
The reductio ad absurdum: Coach A's roster is comprised of 8 freshman five stars and he replaces them all annually with 8 more. Coach B's roster is 2 fr, 2 so, 2 jr, 2 sr five stars, and he replaces the 2 SRs with 2 fr every year. Is coach A's roster better? After all, he gets four times as many five stars as coach B!

Silly argument, right?

As for the title crack, there's another important logical concept to grasp - probability and the single-elimination tournament format. Coach K lost in '99 with 5 lottery picks including #1. It happens. If you gave Cal the talent K has had at Duke for the past 3 decades, does he win 5 titles over 30 years? Probably not, but so what? That just means he's not as good as the GOAT. Boo f'n hoo. Nobody in here believes he wouldn't have at least 2 or 3 in those 30 years, which would put him in incredibly elite historical company. He took squads w/ only 2 high major kids on each at UMASS and reeled off 5 straight tourney appearances, averaging 30 wins a season, 3 16s with a F4 + E8 at a school that had 1 tourney appearance before him, in 1962. The only coaches who have matched his current F4 streak are Wooden and K. He didn't forget how to coach.

Your guys are gonna be great. And because you have more high level guys coming back than we do (output of the system), I expect Duke '16-'17 to be better than UK. But the tourney is a devilish mistress.
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Only question becomes IF cal won more titles, how many get vacated later on?
 
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