JoeMo to Oregon as OC...

MSUDawg25

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Most contracts read that it has to be an equal position. I’m not sure about his.

Yeah, I've never understood how those contracts work. What's to keep Oregon from paying him $1 a year until we have paid his contract in full? He would get the same paycheck except we would be footing the whole bill.
 

PineGroveBully

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Can’t believe an Ole Miss “lawyer” hasn’t chimed on to learn us all a little something, they were here in droves a week ago
 

The Situation

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The guy damn near ruined our program in 2 short years. Yea, congrats.
He didn't ruin anything yet. He went to 2 bowl games. He cost us about 2-3 games over two years and couldn't control the program, and they got rid of him. I don't see the great evil here.
 

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The guy damn near ruined our program in 2 short years. Yea, congrats.

This narrative needs to go away. He underachieved but his recruiting was in-line or better with previous years and he did okay on the field. Certainly not what we were capable of, but it wasn't Croom-esque. If you want to see a ruined program, go check out Arkansas over the last 2-3 years.
 

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Slight thread hijack but what are the chances Joe is our Coach O?

i.e. years from now he is winning at a huge level (not necessarily a natty) at a big program.

I'd say 20% chance that happens. But I would've said lower than that for Orgeron when he left OM. So what do I know?
Penn State is the only program I see taking a chance on him. And as O hired out the offense, Moorhead would need to hire out the running of the program. Not sure you can do that. I mean is there such a thing as 'Disclipline Coordinator'?
 

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Good grief, it was a sarcastic dig at a man who excused a lot of his own shortcomings to his subordinates who cheated on a chemistry exam. I don't wish the man harm. Keep up the devoted downvoting, though. I think it's funny.

But yes, moving alone is torture enough. Some of you need to lighten up.
 

T-TownDawgg

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Are you even hearing yourself? Hire out the running of a program and a discipline coordinator? What the 17 is a head coach paid for? Please continue to defend incompetence and enlighten us at nearly 10 posts per day.
 

JungRebel

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Dude stop with the 17ing ******** excuses. You are the ******* who posted something on a message board (which implies it was said in all seriousness) and now you're pathetically trying to act like WE are the ones who dont understand sarcasm. Grow the 17 up.
 

Dawgzilla

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Man, yall sure make fast atonement for infuriating stubbornness, varsity level coachspeak, misuse of some great players, and criminally negligent underachieving. Good riddance.

Hmmmm, I'll just put you down as "undecided" on JoMo's peformance here.
 

Dawgzilla

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There is an element of "good faith" that is inherent in all contracts, and Moorhead has a duty to mitigate his own damages. I haven't read the language of Moorhead's buyout, so there could be terms covering some of this stuff, but if there is an offset based on future earnings then Moorhead has to use good faith to find a new job and negotiate a fair salary. If he was getting paid $1 to be Oregon's OC, then MSU would have the right to just impute a fair salary and deduct that from Moorhead's buyout....or possibly just cancel the whole thing claiming Moorhead is in breach and committing fraud.
 

T-TownDawgg

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If you take my "curio exam" comment seriously I'm beginning to understand why yall bought into the Hugh Freeze rhetoric.
 

jxndawg

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Read something interesting about this not too long ago ... the gist of it was that some fired coaches are now taking jobs as "analysts" for like <$50k/year, with the goal of getting around the mitigation clauses in their contracts. Butch Jones was mentioned, since it's apparently what his deal is w/ Ala. Of course each contract is different, and it'll all come down to what exactly is required from the fired coach and how the mitigation clause is worded, but it could be a win-win in situations like that - Saban gets Jones on his staff for peanuts, while Tenn. is still really paying his salary.
 

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His offense actually looked decent against terrible defenses (whose doesn't?) so I think the PAC 12 will be a perfect fit.
 

Dawgzilla

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I'm not sure how that's a "win-win", unless you are talking about just Alabama and Jones. Pretty sure Tennessee loses in that situation.
 

Dawgzilla

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Depends on the wording of the contract, but I think people are confusing the situation when a coach takes a job with another school and owes a buyout to his original school. Some contracts allow assistant coaches to leave with no buyout provided they get a higher ranking job, like head coach or coordinator.
 

jxndawg

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Yeah, that's what I meant ... Ala gets a coach whose salary is effectively being paid by Tenn, and Jones gets to keep getting his buyout $$, so it's a win-win for those two. Tenn is stuck holding the bag. My hunch is that these mitigation clauses will start to get tightened up to prevent this kind of scenario.
 

Dawgzilla

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As long as Butch was actively looking for real coaching jobs, then he would probably be okay. He has an excellent argument that being an analyst for Saban is a career enhancing move.