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Guys, I apologise I have not taken the time to learn how to post links like so many of you do and I am on my phone.

But IF anyone could post the link husker 247 story about Joel Klatt on Coach Frost.

Many of us have complimented klatt in the past even with his past transgressions as a Buff. Lol. The guy is a class dude and a good broadcaster.

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Best quote from Klatt:

“What I’ve seen on the outside is that he’s instilled this belief, regardless what happens day-in, day-out or a game-by-game basis, steps are being taken to lead where they want to go,” Klatt said. “Candidly, it’s never felt like that before. The level of confidence is just different now. You see it on the recruiting trail. You certainly see it when you hear Scott, see Scott. He went up to the press conference as a seasoned pro, and it’s his first time as Nebraska’s coach, and he’s up there and knocked it out of the park. This guy is a terrific coach. I truly believe that he’s going to build Nebraska into what I believe is an annual power in the Big Ten.”
 

GeorgeFlippin

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I always like Klatt as a cu QB because he didn't have that typical cu player/fan mentality towards Nebraska. He just played hard without being a show boater. And while he's a buff through and through, he doesn't have Nebraska living in his head 365 days a year like a lot of cu fans STILL do, and that will be VERY apparent the next two years as cu fan comes out of hibernation when it's time to play Nebraska.
 
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Klatt is dead wrong about one thing. He said Frost will find success here by following the Oregon path. Said that Oregon has has a very successful decade and Frost has seen that.

He also tied in the fact that the Oregon campus is isolated with no natural, local recruiting base and he called that very rare.

Yeah, that's all nonsense. Frost has said so many times that Osborne built the path to success here and that's the path he will follow. And the recruiting base thingy is also wrong.

Not only is Oregon in the PAC 12 where it's much easier to get Cali kids to Eugene than to Lincoln, he then seems to have not noticed how Nebraska has recruited nationally for more than fifty years. If anyone wrote the book on national recruiting it was us.

No idea where he's coming from with that stuff.
 
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Klatt is dead wrong about one thing. He said Frost will find success here by following the Oregon path. Said that Oregon has has a very successful decade and Frost has seen that.

He also tied in the fact that the Oregon campus is isolated with no natural, local recruiting base and he called that very rare.

Yeah, that's all nonsense. Frost has said so many times that Osborne built the path to success here and that's the path he will follow. And the recruiting base thingy is also wrong.

Not only is Oregon in the PAC 12 where it's much easier to get Cali kids to Eugene than to Lincoln, he then seems to have not noticed how Nebraska has recruited nationally for more than fifty years. If anyone wrote the book on national recruiting it was us.

No idea where he's coming from with that stuff.

I think you are talking about different things. Frost’s talk of following the Osborne path has to do with S&C, nutrition, life skills, academic support, the walk on program. Klatt was talking about recruiting a bunch speedy players and playing an up tempo pace. Under Kelly/ Helfrich (before Frost left for UCF) Oregon typically finished anywhere from 15-25 in the recruiting rankings, with a year or 2 near 10.

I think he is dead on with what he is saying.
 

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I think you are talking about different things. Frost’s talk of following the Osborne path has to do with S&C, nutrition, life skills, academic support, the walk on program. Klatt was talking about recruiting a bunch speedy players and playing an up tempo pace. Under Kelly/ Helfrich (before Frost left for UCF) Oregon typically finished anywhere from 15-25 in the recruiting rankings, with a year or 2 near 10.

I think he is dead on with what he is saying.

Well if this is a semantics battle over the meaning of 'path' count me out but I will just say that offensive X&Os do not a path make and Frost has repeatedly said he is here to install an Osborne v2.0 plan not an Oregon v2.0 deal. Either Klatt doesn't know this or he ignored it.

Klatt placed his emphasis on Frost's adaptations of Kelly's offensive schemes and that is thin stuff. For one thing, there is a whole other side of the football - defense. Frost has no interest in Oregon's less than stellar defensive results.

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“I do think there’s a path for Nebraska,” he said. “It might be a more narrow path, which is fine, but again this is why Scott is so uniquely suited for Nebraska. Whether he had played there or not, his coaching background and blueprint, stems largely from what happened at Oregon. The Ducks were a perennial football power for a better part of a decade, and they did that without a natural, local recruiting base. That’s very rare in college football. Because of that Nebraska is going to employ that model. Can they get back to the top? Yes. Is it more narrow? Absolutely. Is he the perfect fit for that model? Absolutely.”

So Klatt thinks Nebraska has a narrow path to success and it is to put the Oregon stamp on Lincoln? That's nonsense and I'm pretty sure Frost would argue against both those assertions. Osborne carved a wide path to success and did it earlier and much longer than did Bellotti, Kelly, Helfrich.

Did you notice where Klatt coupled Oregon's decade of success with the fact that Eugene has no natural, local recruiting base? Called it rare and implied that Frost learned a valuable lesson there. No acknowledgment of Osborne's decades of even greater success with an even smaller local recruiting base. Nebraska doesn't have a PAC 12 connection and a shared border with California and all those Cali kids.

Didn't Nebraska write the book on national recruiting and succeeding w/o a natural, local recruiting base? Klatt missed that.

No, I don't think Klatt is dead on, I think he missed the big picture and doesn't understand where Frost is coming from and where he is going.

It's always nice to read a positive article about Husker prospects but Klatt's summation missed the big picture.
 
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I guess we’ll see. Don’t be surprised to see a bunch of 38-31 and 45- 35 games, with 40 passes and the defense giving up a ton of yards and points.

Edit - Again when it comes to “Learning things“ Frost learned to recruit at the power five level at Oregon. He experienced that as a coach. Not simply as a player watching it happen.

I think you’re too worried about who gets credit for what in a five minute interview where Joel does nothing but praise Frost.
 

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I guess we’ll see. Don’t be surprised to see a bunch of 38-31 and 45- 35 games, with 40 passes and the defense giving up a ton of yards and points.

Edit - Again when it comes to “Learning things“ Frost learned to recruit at the power five level at Oregon. He experienced that as a coach. Not simply as a player watching it happen.

I think you’re too worried about who gets credit for what in a five minute interview where Joel does nothing but praise Frost.
I'm not worried about anything and you shouldn't think that of me. Just trying to set the record straight.

But I do wonder about how a criticism of a media piece is always met with a defense of the piece w/o an exploration of the merits of the criticism.
 
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I'm not worried about anything and you shouldn't think that of me. Just trying to set the record straight.

But I do wonder about how a criticism of a media piece is always met with a defense of the piece w/o an exploration of the merits of the criticism.


Well for one, your only true criticism of the piece was that Klatt didn’t give Osborne credit for National recruiting.

Who cares?? The article was about Scott Frost. Scott Frost has recruited to Nebraska for 6 months. He could have learned from Osborne by watching, but his first experience in P5 recruiting was at Oregon. A place that is similar to Nebraska in that it is isolated and doesn’t produce much in state talent. So Frost was able to see for himself how to recruit AT OREGON, which is what Klatt was implying. There have been plenty of coaches that coaches under Osborne that couldn’t replicate the success of the system.
 
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I guess we’ll see. Don’t be surprised to see a bunch of 38-31 and 45- 35 games, with 40 passes and the defense giving up a ton of yards and points.

Edit - Again when it comes to “Learning things“ Frost learned to recruit at the power five level at Oregon. He experienced that as a coach. Not simply as a player watching it happen.

I think you’re too worried about who gets credit for what in a five minute interview where Joel does nothing but praise Frost.
Agreed. Heck even at UCF there were high scoring games. I watched all of their games i could DVR and a lot of times their defense was giving up a ton of yards and points. There were several times where I thought, man I hope IF we go after Frost this year, that he doesn't bring his DC. But the more I watched the more comfortable I got. Especially the last 3 games.
 
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I guess we’ll see. Don’t be surprised to see a bunch of 38-31 and 45- 35 games, with 40 passes and the defense giving up a ton of yards and points.

Edit - Again when it comes to “Learning things“ Frost learned to recruit at the power five level at Oregon. He experienced that as a coach. Not simply as a player watching it happen.

I think you’re too worried about who gets credit for what in a five minute interview where Joel does nothing but praise Frost.
I think that, with few exceptions, the high scoring game with tons of yards and points are going to become the norm across the country. It already happened in some conferences, especially the big 12 where you see those Baylor/TCU Oklahoma/Oklahoma State/West Virginia games where each team is scoring 50, 60, 70 points (i recall baylor beating W.Va 70-63 a few years ago).

There are some holdouts in the big ten and the SEC, but I think more points and more yards will continue to become the norm. I think we have the right guy to run the show and put up crazy offensive numbers (while hopefully giving up less-crazy numbers on defense) in this changing landscape.
 

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Klatt has been surprisingly good on the national stage. As a local radio talking head in Denver, he was an absolutely insufferable douche. I guess that's probably what his employer wanted, but he filled the role magnificently.
 

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I'm not worried about anything and you shouldn't think that of me. Just trying to set the record straight.

But I do wonder about how a criticism of a media piece is always met with a defense of the piece w/o an exploration of the merits of the criticism.

You have to keep in mind that a good portion of the fan base is butt hurt that we don't look like Wisconsin or the NU of old. So when they hear TO s formula they instinctually go to x and o and I formation and all that.

Frost might hire Ron Brown and recruit projects along the line from Beatrice or have 450 stations in practice or whatever but it's pretty clear that his whole approach is based on an Oregon speed look and not the heavy I.

I haven't counted exactly but I've heard him say alot that we want to be fast and play fast....he just hasn't come up with the NU version of the UCFast slogan yet. Its rare if ever that I really hear him talking about just putting someone in their back every down.

About the closest he came was the other day at media days when he said something to the effect of the fans were tired of Wisconsin looking like the old NU than Nebraska does. I think he's more or less getting around to the toughness and local recruiting angle but personally unless he changes the program he had at UCF dramatically we're going to look alot more like Oregon than Wisconsin in the coming years.

No matter how many local recruits and practice stations he has
 

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Well if this is a semantics battle over the meaning of 'path' count me out but I will just say that offensive X&Os do not a path make and Frost has repeatedly said he is here to install an Osborne v2.0 plan not an Oregon v2.0 deal. Either Klatt doesn't know this or he ignored it.

Klatt placed his emphasis on Frost's adaptations of Kelly's offensive schemes and that is thin stuff. For one thing, there is a whole other side of the football - defense. Frost has no interest in Oregon's less than stellar defensive results.

Klatt:
“I do think there’s a path for Nebraska,” he said. “It might be a more narrow path, which is fine, but again this is why Scott is so uniquely suited for Nebraska. Whether he had played there or not, his coaching background and blueprint, stems largely from what happened at Oregon. The Ducks were a perennial football power for a better part of a decade, and they did that without a natural, local recruiting base. That’s very rare in college football. Because of that Nebraska is going to employ that model. Can they get back to the top? Yes. Is it more narrow? Absolutely. Is he the perfect fit for that model? Absolutely.”

So Klatt thinks Nebraska has a narrow path to success and it is to put the Oregon stamp on Lincoln? That's nonsense and I'm pretty sure Frost would argue against both those assertions. Osborne carved a wide path to success and did it earlier and much longer than did Bellotti, Kelly, Helfrich.

Did you notice where Klatt coupled Oregon's decade of success with the fact that Eugene has no natural, local recruiting base? Called it rare and implied that Frost learned a valuable lesson there. No acknowledgment of Osborne's decades of even greater success with an even smaller local recruiting base. Nebraska doesn't have a PAC 12 connection and a shared border with California and all those Cali kids.

Didn't Nebraska write the book on national recruiting and succeeding w/o a natural, local recruiting base? Klatt missed that.

No, I don't think Klatt is dead on, I think he missed the big picture and doesn't understand where Frost is coming from and where he is going.

It's always nice to read a positive article about Husker prospects but Klatt's summation missed the big picture.
Klatt is one of the best college commentators in the game. Period. He may have been a smidge off on the recruiting BUT Frost didn't learn his recruiting philosophy from Tom.