Super easy to say, but that doesn’t make it true. If someone other than Martinez plays next year, what will the argument be? Because if Martinez doesn’t improve, he won’t be starting.Does he become the best QB ever if he is never given a chance? He was not the best QB to ever play before this season and obviously Frost thought that too by turning him down. You can’t say because he is doing great at LSU this year when given a chance that it would translate to the same success here.
Plus we have seen Frost refuse to bench AM for any reason so yes Burrow probably would never see enough playing time to ever make a difference.
Super easy to say, but that doesn’t make it true. If someone other than Martinez plays next year, what will the argument be? Because if Martinez doesn’t improve, he won’t be starting.
I know this to be true just as much as you know Burrow would ride the pine here.
JB is better than NV and LM. Simple as that.Next year won’t matter because Burrow would not be here so the only question is when in the last two years has Frost benched AM? What has lead you to believe Frost would have done the smart thing and play the better QB when has he hasn’t done that yet? It easy to say because it’s based off actions Frost has done not expectations of what you expected a smart person to do.
So if Frost actually benches AM next year for poor play then I will be happy he finally allowed the best player to play. Still doesn’t make a difference about last year though.
So because Frost won’t play Noah Vedral over Martinez, Joe Burrow would have surely sat the bench too. Got it.Does he become the best QB ever if he is never given a chance? He was not the best QB to ever play before this season and obviously Frost thought that too by turning him down. You can’t say because he is doing great at LSU this year when given a chance that it would translate to the same success here.
Plus we have seen Frost refuse to bench AM for any reason so yes Burrow probably would never see enough playing time to ever make a difference.
Remember when NU was going to beat Minnesota by two touchdowns because its best QB was finally starting? Good times.JB is better than NV and LM. Simple as that.
You may be right, maybe Frost doesn’t play him, I just don’t believe it is as automatic as you say.
Not nearly as good. One is accurate and cerebral, and more mobile than most think. The other is very mobile, below average accuracy, and gets bambozzled semi-regularly.Honest question, how do we think a healthy Martinez would do in his spot?
gets bamboozled semi regularly from covered receivers, then hoodwinked with a unblocking line.Not nearly as good. One is accurate and cerebral, and more mobile than most think. The other is very mobile, below average accuracy, and gets bambozzled semi-regularly.
I’m not sure if this was a serious question
This was against a LB.
One's a true sophomore who's had sketchy O line play and the other is a 5th year senior who has only played behind terrific O lines. And oh yeah, the soph has played with 2 significant injuries all year and missed almost a month of practice and games.... but whatever makes you feel better about yourself.Not nearly as good. One is accurate and cerebral, and more mobile than most think. The other is very mobile, below average accuracy, and gets bambozzled semi-regularly.
I’m not sure if this was a serious question
Players have different inherent skills. Accuracy is one of them. One of the two mentioned is outstanding. It’s difficult to significantly improve accuracy, not improve, but significantly improve. AM has a long ways to go to catch up to Burrow. In the pocket, under duress, rolling out, Burrow usually hits guys in stride, and completes more than 70% of his passes. AM might not o that against air.One's a true sophomore who's had sketchy O line play and the other is a 5th year senior who has only played behind terrific O lines. And oh yeah, the soph has played with 2 significant injuries all year and missed almost a month of practice and games.... but whatever makes you feel better about yourself.
I said back when we played OSU and Burrow came in during mop up time against us that I thought he was their best QB. He as poised, crisp and very athletic. The kid is a great player and we missed out. That said, Joe hasn't had to deal with some of the crap that AM has. He's still got time to develop. AM has already been through a lot and he's only 19 years old.Players have different inherent skills. Accuracy is one of them. One of the two mentioned is outstanding. It’s difficult to significantly improve accuracy, not improve, but significantly improve. AM has a long ways to go to catch up to Burrow. In the pocket, under duress, rolling out, Burrow usually hits guys in stride, and completes more than 70% of his passes. AM might not o that against air.
The mental part, they are light years apart and one plays in a more complex system. Who knows on this one, as you said AM is young. He might be a really smart kid and be Burrows equal. We’ll see. Personally, I like AM, glad he’s on the team.
and it doesn’t ‘make me feel better’ it just is what it is. What it is is one will be winning a Heisman, and getting drafted this spring- while the other one will fight for his job on a cruddy team this spring.
logic is on my side on this one![]()
I believe we are in the same camp, just one is a bit more emotional and hopeful, while the other a bit more pragmatic and yes,hopeful.I said back when we played OSU and Burrow came in during mop up time against us that I thought he was their best QB. He as poised, crisp and very athletic. The kid is a great player and we missed out. That said, Joe hasn't had to deal with some of the crap that AM has. He's still got time to develop. AM has already been through a lot and he's only 19 years old.
Can you imagine how painful it would have been to have him come to Nebraska, then transfer through the multiple coaches, and then watch him succeed. There is zero chance he would have put up with the crap that is Nebraska football since 2014...he left OSU for gawds sake.Heard he wanted to come to Nebraska.
Why didn’t he see the field at theOSU