JJ McCarthy to draft
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It’s not JJs fault they could just bully teams on the ground and especially when Harbsugh was out. It wasn’t a perfect situation for him for draft status. He will get his shot at combine and/or private workouts.
Without putting much thought into it I would say a fair comp may be Jordan Love. Gets taken end of the 1st or somewhere in the 2nd to a team that doesn't need a QB to come in and start right away. Sits behind a veteran and learns how to read an NFL defense, adjust to the speed of the game, learns the scheme of his team, and just absorbs as much information as he possibly can for a year or more. Then there's a chance he steps in when the QB in front of him moves on and has success with a good team around him.
At this moment, I don't see any NFL team where he would be considered better than the current starter.
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I'm asking you for your draft comp for JJ MCCARTHY the quarterback. Seemed like you had one, but now you don't.
I wouldn’t be shocked if he snuck into R1. JMO but the combine/ind workout means a lot for his draft position.
He's very athletic and will interview as well as any
My high school coach always told us, excuses are like ***holes, everyone has one and they all stink. Apply armchair quarterback opinions and pretty much the same thing. What do we know? Who saw Brady and Purdy and many others. How did Vince Young and Johnny Manziel pan out? How about wishing the kid good luck? If he has brains, skills and fire, he’ll find his place.
I don't think people are questioning his athletic ability it's just that they haven't seen it in a game. He hasn't been asked to lead a team downfield in the last 2 minutes to win a game, he's never had to bring a team back from down 2 scores in the 4th quarter, he's never been asked to put up 350 yards and 4 TDs in order to win a shootout. Not saying he can't do all of these things, but there's no body of work to go off of.
For the record I said “I’m rooting for him.”
I never said anyone was questioning it.
I'm questioning the guys with his comps as Justin Fields and Tyson Bagent.
My question to this is, of the other QB's at the top of this class who is he more athletic than? If all perform well at the combine/pro days does JJ jump over anyone?
Asked and answered. If the last six weeks is what an NFL team is getting, he is no better than a game manager whose job is to hand off and make short throws. Like Tyson Bagent.
If there is an injury reason for him being a game manager the last 40 percent of the season, then he is probably a second day pick provided he is healthy and has a good pro day.
I think he’s on par with them
Context helps…Jesus. They didn’t need him to do much, HC was out for how many of those and they were SUPER conservative and the goal was winning the NC however they had to.
He is both the benefactor and victim of being surrounded by tremendous talent, especially in the run game. Difficult to evaluate because of that. I think that's why we are seeing such inconsistent evals on this thread
Rooting for him but my advice would be to not accept the ESPN invite and to enjoy the event surrounded by family and friends in LaGrange Park. Don’t be ESPNs 2024 Brady Quinn or Will Levis
It’s cool we are talking about an IL prep QB going R1/R2….
He has a strong arm also. I think this will be where he will shine at the combines. He will open eyes.
I really don't think anyone here has mentioned something that would make them a "doubter."
Some mentioned that he would be a "project." A few Naz posters (many of them have a decade long reputation for being hyper-sensitive) seem to take that as an affront and therefore seem to feel that is disrespectful.
I think people questioning his readiness, suggesting he is a project, and questioning his limited opportunities to throw downfield in college are all legitimate questions and probably lead to why he is the projected 5th-10th QB taken and not in the top 2 or 3.
Suggesting someone is a project and may take several years to develop is not a slight in the least. Patrick Mahomes is the exception. There is a break in period for almost all QB's. JJ's may be longer than most because of the limitations the Michigan offense placed on him. Then again, maybe it won't and he will end up looking MVP caliber after a year or two.
Doubting him would be someone saying he is likely a bust. I haven't seen too much of that in this thread.
It’s funny there is an 65 page thread about the Bears where management and players are getting ripped yet you bring up a fact the there are plenty of legitimate questions about a local kid going into the NFL draft and it becomes off limits or you are some type of hater/ doubter. This board is weird how people hang on to guys that played at their high school like it’s some badge of honor that Harry Hut Hut went on and made good.
Like where did I mention disrespect?
No need to make things up, my posts are all ITT.
I asked him if his JJ comp was actually a UDFA D2 QB, because that's a terrible comp per every single draft board made public.
Has nothing to do with JJ being a Nazareth grad. It's an atrocious draft comp by him.
But carry on making up drama... you are great at it.
No need to make things up, my posts are all ITT.
I asked him if his JJ comp was actually a UDFA D2 QB, because that's a terrible comp per every single draft board made public.
Has nothing to do with JJ being a Nazareth grad. It's an atrocious draft comp by him.
But carry on making up drama... you are great at it.
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I think most of us root for IL kids to do well, and I don't think that's weird to want to see local kids succeed in a sport we are told is dying here.
I don't go in the Bears thread, but those aren't high school or college athletes, they are professionals.
I don't think I inferred he'd jump anyone at the top. I said round two...
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He wasn't exactly let loose at Mich. Kid has a hose. Part of me wishes we went somewhere else to showcase it.
I think his decision worked out pretty well for him.
I was referring to the word "doubters" that someone else used.
Merely pointing out that there weren't many people who could be fairly characterized as doubters in this thread. Some questioning his draft placement and ability to be a top of the line QB, but nobody really doubting his pedigree to be drafted fairly high and given a shot in the NFL.
Yes Bagent as a draft comp is poor but draft comps are a waste of time, so I don't think many people were following that part of the thread. Not sure what drama you are referring to or why one would indicate that I am good at it? Perhaps the persistent perception of drama is the issue at hand?
They just drafter Anthony Richardson last year. He was out injured the 2nd half of the year, but Indy has a young starter.