Jinder Mahal
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Anyone who says it was a good idea isn't being serious.
Orton is boring but at least he has credibility. Jinder has zero charisma, sucks in the ring, was a total jobber a month ago, and they've just given him the belt out of nowhere simply for marketing purposes in India. Which is hilarious when you consider that the guy is from Canada.
They have put on some really bad television since Wrestlemania. Smackdown has AJ Styles, Shinsuke Nakamura, Kevin Owens, and Sami Zayn all on the same show and they gave the title to Jinder... not much more to say than that.
Raw has become unwatchable. Which is sad because that show also has a lot of talent. TV ratings for both shows have been awful lately.
The product is really, really stale right now, and they have more talent than they've had in 16 years. The Jinder experiment isn't going to help. I'm all for trying something new, but if you're going to do it, make sure the person has been built well and is actually good.
Orton is boring but at least he has credibility. Jinder has zero charisma, sucks in the ring, was a total jobber a month ago, and they've just given him the belt out of nowhere simply for marketing purposes in India. Which is hilarious when you consider that the guy is from Canada.
They have put on some really bad television since Wrestlemania. Smackdown has AJ Styles, Shinsuke Nakamura, Kevin Owens, and Sami Zayn all on the same show and they gave the title to Jinder... not much more to say than that.
Raw has become unwatchable. Which is sad because that show also has a lot of talent. TV ratings for both shows have been awful lately.
The product is really, really stale right now, and they have more talent than they've had in 16 years. The Jinder experiment isn't going to help. I'm all for trying something new, but if you're going to do it, make sure the person has been built well and is actually good.
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When you get hollywood writers and nobody of original creativity like the attitude era, then this is the product you will get.
They have been trying to develop the Asian market. China was first. India is next. I think they tour there in late summer.
Khali is still revered in India believe it or not. Mahal in the real world is like little brother to Khali.
Interestingly, although of Indian ancestry, Mahal was born and raised in Canada.
Khali is still revered in India believe it or not. Mahal in the real world is like little brother to Khali.
Interestingly, although of Indian ancestry, Mahal was born and raised in Canada.
Seth Rollins is the best talent on their roster, but he stays injured and keeps injuring others. Throw in the fact that they sunk years of storylines into the other two shield members (Ambrose/Reigns) but neither of them were accepted as the face of the company by the fans, and you get what we have now: A bunch of old farts from the 90's wearing the belt or a bunch of unheard-of's.
Haha. Have you ever been to Montreal? It's not interesting at all. Most Indians in the US got here via Canada.
Apparently, I missed the Indians when I visited Montreal in February.
I was impressed with that area - very much an international vibe for sure - but folks from India didn't seem to have a corner on the "from elsewhere" market.
To the original point - I don't get the fascination with wrestling at all. STUPID. It does not compute to me at all that this translates as legitimate entertainment to an adult.
However, I have recently been to Montreal which grants me "expert" status and compels me to render my unsolicited observation and judgement on said matter. To each, it's own.
I was impressed with that area - very much an international vibe for sure - but folks from India didn't seem to have a corner on the "from elsewhere" market.
To the original point - I don't get the fascination with wrestling at all. STUPID. It does not compute to me at all that this translates as legitimate entertainment to an adult.
However, I have recently been to Montreal which grants me "expert" status and compels me to render my unsolicited observation and judgement on said matter. To each, it's own.
This implies it was at one time good. Its poorly story lined pageantry where greased men in costumes poorly act out whats to happen. How is that ever watchable?
Yup, hollywood writers are whats keeping pro rasslin from being a quality product. Nailed it.***
I won't deny that the stories are sometimes poorly written and there are currently more uninteresting characters than interesting ones.
But the "oh it's fake/scripted" argument is lazy. I think everyone who is a fan of wrestling over the age of 7 is aware of that. I personally find the athleticism that is required super impressive, and it takes a lot of skill to know how to "fake wrestle". It's not as popular as it once was but there's still a huge worldwide following.
These guys get injured just like regular athletes. Heck, their risk of injury may be even higher with some of the stunts they do. It's not for everyone but I think it's stupid to insult the intelligence of people who like it as is very popular to do.
I dont think I am insulting anyone's intelligence with what I posted. Of course everyone over 7 knows its scripted. I fully expect everyone to know that.
It would be insulting if I posted in a way that sounded like I thought people didnt know.
I dont think I am insulting anyone's intelligence when I claim its poorly scripted and poorly acted. I am insulting people's tastes in entertainment, but not their intelligence.
Even the smartest among us can still have LCD TV watching tendencies and enjoy Van Damme movies or Real Housewives shows.
It's far from perfect. Even the most diehard fans will admit that. Most people just put it on in the background while doing things around the house in case something cool happens.
YouTube, Twitter, and the WWE Network have also made being a fan really easy. You can just watch clips of the important things and filter out all the segments you don't care about instead of having to watch at a set time every Monday. And the network cut the cost of PPVs from 50 bucks per show to where you get the PPVs plus documentaries and basically every old match ever all inclusive for ten bucks a month.
YouTube, Twitter, and the WWE Network have also made being a fan really easy. You can just watch clips of the important things and filter out all the segments you don't care about instead of having to watch at a set time every Monday. And the network cut the cost of PPVs from 50 bucks per show to where you get the PPVs plus documentaries and basically every old match ever all inclusive for ten bucks a month.
They are all over Toronto too. Indians probably make up the second largest contingent of people who aren't white Canadians. Chinese would be the first. Indigenous Canadians(aka Eskimos) are about 10th on that list lol.
I grew up watching it. Got out of it for a while and then my kids come along. I enjoy watching it with them. Good times for me. Wrestlemania is a great production. It should be on everyone's bucket list to attend. I agree it's not what it used to be, even my kids like to older wrestlers more, but to me, it's something my kids and I will always have together.
Mstateglfr, I read a lot of threads whether I join the discussion or not. Some I don't read at all for I have no interest in the topic.
My question to you is; why did you feel the need to even comment in this one?
I haven't followed Rasslin' in two decades, but I have nothing against those who continue to do so.
I have another question. When is the last time you commented on something sports related?
I'm not trying to get into some internet cred slap fight & make an "online enemy" of you. I just don't understand your seemingly random antagonistic snark. Do those who enjoy Rasslin' represent a certain demographic you despise? If so, isn't that painting with a rather broad brush?
My question to you is; why did you feel the need to even comment in this one?
I haven't followed Rasslin' in two decades, but I have nothing against those who continue to do so.
I have another question. When is the last time you commented on something sports related?
I'm not trying to get into some internet cred slap fight & make an "online enemy" of you. I just don't understand your seemingly random antagonistic snark. Do those who enjoy Rasslin' represent a certain demographic you despise? If so, isn't that painting with a rather broad brush?
The PG era sucks. Plain and simple. Will never be characters like the rock, SCSA, Kane and undertaker, DX, mankind...not to mention WCW with the talent they had.
I'd easily argue that watching most sports are less entertaining than wrestling. Of course it's storylines and fake. Doesn't mean it's not a fun watch. Literally every TV show ever has a storyline.
Fair enough- I've e shared The Godfather, apocalypse now, breaking bad ,etc with my boys so I get the quality time. Just seems like we went from Pixar to walking dead overnight.
I honestly think WCW being gone has hurt them more than anything. When you have no competition it's easy to get lazy.
Does anyone think he's on roids? He's the biggest guy on the roster. He'd be second biggest if Brent Rooker was a WWE Superstar*
Hey, me too! We are twinsies!
1- I used to watch wrestling when I was a kid.
2- A few people at my work watch it, discuss it, and as a result I am familiar with current characters.
3- Its an interesting thread with 4+ tangential topics.
Samesies. Again! Oh man we are so similar its eery.
I have nothing against people who watch wrestling and actually already clearly stated that. I acknowledged that even the smartest among us can be wooed to the TV by lowest common denominator shows like Real Housewives/Survivor/Days of Our Lives/Dance Moms/etc etc etc.
I dont have anything against the people personally who watch WWE. That would be insane to have a personal grudge against people I dont know just because they watch something I dont.
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I watch MSU baseball as a background sometimes. Besides a handful of games I semi-watch, I dont watch MSU sports in the spring. After April, its pretty much the summer around here for me. Speaking of not caring much about spring sports- I dont engage in those threads typically(this circles back to how you dont read some threads you dont care about). <---twinsies![/QUOTE]
- Uh, I hadnt even considered you being an 'online enemy'. That didnt cross my mind until you mentioned it. I just figured you wanted to call me out for my posts declaring wrestling to not be good entertainment(as others have too). That would be insane to turn your comments into me thinking you are an enemy.
- This is just a message board where we all discuss MSU sports, sports in general, and a whole lot of OT subjects. I dont have enemies...its a message board. I dont even have enemies in actual person life, itd be sad to have enemies on a community message board. There is simply nothing important enough here for an enemy to ever be made.
- As for my antagonistic snark- chalk it up to a well established topical character- the heel. I am to this message board what Ted Dibiase or Rowdy Piper were to the 80s WWF. It certainly isnt a character I play, but based on the hilarious pushback many of my comments receive here, the result is full heel.
- No, to be completely clear- I dont despise the wrestling demographic. It is so varied and diverse that for me to despise all those who like wrestling would be nuts as I dont think wrestling defines a good many and as such, even wrestling fans would not agree many are of the same demographic(based on how they identify in whatever way(s) that may be).
Few more things just to run my mouth enough to potentially give fodder for others to use-
- Over the last couple years, OT topics are often times infinitely more interesting than sports topics. I cant bring myself to care enough to respond to all the Ole Miss threads where people complain about their fans/coach/AD/tailgating. I cant bring myself to care enough to live on a roller coaster of emotions over if a high school student will pick MSU or another school to play football.
- I am primarily a basketball fan, our team has been a dumpster fire and then bad/frustrating for 6+ years now, so there isnt much basketball discussion here(relative to baseball, football, and OT).
- If you ever look at OT threads, they are often times massive multipagers. There is a reason- its interesting for many.
- Ill be sure to post in a baseball thread that 'I like baseball' to keep you happy. <---see what i did there? I trivialized your overall point for posting. But you wont care, so it is effectively useless to have posted and make me look heelish. heelesque, perhaps. Good stuff.
-now back to the riveting wrestling thread-
I don't see why you're so down on wrestling if you're sharing the Godfather with your kids.
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WWE got considerably worse when they had no real competition. The monday night wars were excellent for wrestling.
I'm always okay with someone being given an opportunity, and with someone taking the belt off Randy Orton, who does NOTHING for me. Jinder's worked hard to get in the kind of shape he's in now, and he's impressed the man in charge, and he's getting what Vince McMahon likes to say he gives, an opportunity. I hope he makes the most of it.
Im guessing this is an insult? Not sure as I havent seen her since 8 or so years ago as a part-timer on the Daily Show. What is the reference for why I would TIVO her each night?...does she also think WWE has bad story lines and poor acting?
I like it. There aren't any anti American personas in the game right now. I don't think there has been any since 9/11 -- thanks Bin Laden**.
I sound snobby I'm sure, but one seems a bit more high brow than the other. Don't get me wrong, I liked wrestling when I was a kid and still thought it was real. But after that.... I don't get it. It's no better than community theater except I marvel at the large crowds that appear to buy in to it all still. I find it amusing...especially seeing people like bjork wearing and posing with Belts. Clearly, I'M the one out of touch.
Im lost at this point. Odd joke, if its one. Odd comment if serious.
Either way, im out.
My dear fellow, you have quite outdone yourself with this monologue. I could deduce no logical reason for you to defecate on a discussion in which you have no interest. I merely inquired as to your motive.
You regurgitated a large wall of text while saying very little. "The lady doth protest too much, methinks."
Snark is welcome, expected, & even respected "'round here"; else sarcasterisks would be moot.
The above, by no means, trivializes my inquiry, it only served you in doubling down on your contrarianism.
"Good Day, Sir!"
Is it really laziness, though, or oversaturation? You could argue either way, I guess, but it's just hard for me call them lazy when they're pumping so much time and money into things like the Network, NXT, global expansion, and movies. To me, I just think they've taken a niche product and made it so big that it's practically impossible to have interesting characters and stories most of the time.
I've subscribed to the network a couple times just to get wrestlemania, and each time I spent about a week thinking how cool it was to have all that content, and then it was just too much wrestling after that. I don't know. I still watch a little bit on most Monday nights, but even I have to admit that it's getting harder and harder to pay attention. The personalities just pale in comparison to the golden days
I've subscribed to the network a couple times just to get wrestlemania, and each time I spent about a week thinking how cool it was to have all that content, and then it was just too much wrestling after that. I don't know. I still watch a little bit on most Monday nights, but even I have to admit that it's getting harder and harder to pay attention. The personalities just pale in comparison to the golden days
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