Jim Phillips, the monster.

nu08

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He’s always tough on the program but he comes from the right place and I thought this article was good and fair
 

CSCatFan1

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He’s always tough on the program but he comes from the right place and I thought this article was good and fair

What place is that? His *******? The apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Those two have had hard-ons for Phillips and Collins ever since Carmody was fired. Their bizarre affection for Carmody is disturbing and pathetic.
 
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JournCat

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Just as a matter of persuasion, he would have been better off picking one grievance ...
 

zeek55

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The problem with this kind of blog post is that it's just so filled with empty speculation that serves to make things look bad.

Like if a potential recruit breaks the law, the school yanks the scholly. What else does should the school do? Should the school have predicted that the recruit was problematic before getting that info?

Ultimately, we all know the tradeoffs at work in college athletics. It's not clear that the major problems can be solved by Northwestern alone.

Unless you're advocating for a UChicago route for Northwestern to de-emphasize athletics, you basically accept the world as it is, warts and all.

And it's not clear money causes these alleged problems. D2/D3 programs have had many of the same personnel issues.

Phillips gave a decade plus to the University and left the athletics department in far greater shape than he left it. Virtually every sports team is in a better situation.

The next director won't have to focus as much on raising money for huge projects as Phillips had to...
 

GeauxCatsGeaux

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This writer writes the following:

Northwestern sits high on its hill, pointing to its astounding graduation rates, its exemplary students who participate in the community in inspiring ways, and show to the world that you can indeed compete for championships while serving your athletes world-class educations that prepare them for life off the field.

So Northwestern sits on its high hill for doing the right thing most of the time? He dismisses this as "ringing true," but then goes on to try to hint that some things went wrong. Like all large organizations, I'm sure a lot of things went wrong.

The author also tells on himself and everybody else who thinks that college athletics are the Big Bad. He starts from a place where college athletics are bad and corrupt and must be fundamentally changed and exposed. I assume Dr. Phillips gets up every day with the assumption that college athletics are a greater good.

But, to the author, this is "stunningly empty." There are also some serious flaws in his point about raising money and building facilities while the school faces budget problems that render the point meaningless.
 

zeek55

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This writer writes the following:

Northwestern sits high on its hill, pointing to its astounding graduation rates, its exemplary students who participate in the community in inspiring ways, and show to the world that you can indeed compete for championships while serving your athletes world-class educations that prepare them for life off the field.

So Northwestern sits on its high hill for doing the right thing most of the time? He dismisses this as "ringing true," but then goes on to try to hint that some things went wrong. Like all large organizations, I'm sure a lot of things went wrong.

The author also tells on himself and everybody else who thinks that college athletics are the Big Bad. He starts from a place where college athletics are bad and corrupt and must be fundamentally changed and exposed. I assume Dr. Phillips gets up every day with the assumption that college athletics are a greater good.

But, to the author, this is "stunningly empty." There are also some serious flaws in his point about raising money and building facilities while the school faces budget problems that render the point meaningless.
Yeah that part is always irritating.

Most of Northwestern athletics major donors give far more to the rest of the University than they do to the athletics department.

This isn't a place where our donors treat the University as a school attached to a football team.
 

Hungry Jack

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My eternal hope is that all snowflakes like Goren grow up and learn that life is far from ideal, and we are often confronted with unpleasantries and uncomfortable truths that require us to swallow hard, and get on with things. The desire of these idealistic young revolutionaries is to burn it all down and start over, creating perfection. The problem is, perfection does not exist (unless you are Football Phil), and never will.
 

hollandnucat

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Mr. Goren, what you've just written is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent blog were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone is now dumber for having read it. May God have mercy on your soul.
 

lunker35

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Ben Goren is the same joker who was at InsideNU, yeah? When him and Medline basically tried to burn down the place?
Ben is a clown. He has a hate for NU and goes out of his way all the time to trash us. Kid needs to get a life.
 

CSCatFan1

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Ben is a clown. He has a hate for NU and goes out of his way all the time to trash us. Kid needs to get a life.

Yep...dad is just as bad. Both have such a deep rooted disdain for the program. Does it all stem from the Carmody firing? Wasn't dad the one that apologized to an opposing fan base for us winning a football game?
 

lunker35

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Yep...dad is just as bad. Both have such a deep rooted disdain for the program. Does it all stem from the Carmody firing? Wasn't dad the one that apologized to an opposing fan base for us winning a football game?
That’s certainly when it reared it’s head. It’s like they were in bed with Carmody and when he got fired it was his personal vendetta to trash NU.
 

Gladeskat

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I had the same thought......

Same here. Thank goodness I started skimming when I did.

Note the irony that they pine for a nicer, D3 experience and respectful treatment of athletes while they themselves (or at least NMed) covered NU athletes as if they were professionals and not fellow students.
 

Hungry Jack

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Mr. Goren, what you've just written is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent blog were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone is now dumber for having read it. May God have mercy on your soul.
C'mon, he's like 22 years old. That's a bit harsh.
 

Hungry Jack

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Yep...dad is just as bad. Both have such a deep rooted disdain for the program. Does it all stem from the Carmody firing? Wasn't dad the one that apologized to an opposing fan base for us winning a football game?
Yup. The Wisconsin game with the disputed call in the end zone. I think it was a non-call on an apparent (debatable) PI or something akin to that.

That "apology post" appeared not long thereafter, and I had to run out to Home Depot and buy a pitchfork to gouge my eyes after reading that post.
 

rogerkim

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I don't agree with most of what Ben wrote in his blog post. I also don't think it is the worst piece of writing I have ever come across on the internet. His post is an opinion piece, nothing more. There is a great deal of speculation, but not a whole lot of evidence to back up some of the conclusions drawn.

Personally, I won't bemoan the loss of the 10 minutes it took to read the post, or the few minutes I spent clicking on some of the supporting links within the post.
 

CSCatFan1

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Yup. The Wisconsin game with the disputed call in the end zone. I think it was a non-call on an apparent (debatable) PI or something akin to that.

That "apology post" appeared not long thereafter, and I had to run out to Home Depot and buy a pitchfork to gouge my eyes after reading that post.

I wish we had a screenshot.
 

drosejr

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Yup. The Wisconsin game with the disputed call in the end zone. I think it was a non-call on an apparent (debatable) PI or something akin to that.

That "apology post" appeared not long thereafter, and I had to run out to Home Depot and buy a pitchfork to gouge my eyes after reading that post.
Think dad is at it again:
 

Purple Pile Driver

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Yep...dad is just as bad. Both have such a deep rooted disdain for the program. Does it all stem from the Carmody firing? Wasn't dad the one that apologized to an opposing fan base for us winning a football game?
This kid makes me glad I DIDN’T go to NU. Clown
 

NUCat320

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The article says Jim Phillips may have been the best athletic director in D1 while he was at NU, but that being a D1 athletic director does not do much good for the world.

We basically say the same thing when people here think it’s absurd that players don’t get paid or that football is happening with COVID or that it’s insane what Arkansas Pine Bluff hoopsters do in November and December for their education (mostly I just say that).

For many, watching college football or basketball involves shoving down some personal discomfort.

He should have done it in 500 words.
I’m sure he’s grateful for the traffic today.
(Holy crap, there’s a hollandnucat and Thatkidfromholland ? Weird.)