I know that "sane" people do think differently. Good Lord.Originally posted by Beezermc:
It really is déjà Vu all over again. He'll, 10 games Into the season many in here still felt 2013 was a title contender! If UK somehow strikes out, which I think is about a 1% probability, the Cats will struggle mightily to make the tourney. I don't know how any same person could think differently.
I just don't know how to interpret that.....Originally posted by Aike:
People have gone full idiot. Tubby had many teams with less talent that were Elite 8 teams.[/I]Originally posted by rabidcatfan:
LOL...how spoiled some of us have gotten.Originally posted by Beezermc:
It really is déjà Vu all over again. He'll, 10 games Into the season many in here still felt 2013 was a title contender! If UK somehow strikes out, which I think is about a 1% probability, the Cats will struggle mightily to make the tourney. I don't know how any same person could think differently.
You do realize that we've made the tournament with less talent before right? The 2013 team had a ton of undue pressure on it following the 2012 Championship and the loss of Noel sealed the deal. We had a headcase PG, a 5th year transfer SG, a streaky frosh SG, a PF who couldn't play a lick of D, and two 7 footers, one was a top 3 pick and the other was a diamond in the rough.
Seriously though, what about having a lineup of Ulis, Briscoe, Hawkins, Matthews, Willis, Poythress, Lee, and Labissiere does not equate to a tournament appearance? One of the top 2 or 3 best returning PG's in college basketball, the best PG coming into college, the potential #1 NBA pick in 2016, plus two other 6-8/6-9 McDonalds All-Americans should equate to a 4 or 5 seed in the NCAA-T at least, Now, that lineup may not accomplish much more than maybe a Sweet Sixteen, but insinuating that that lineup couldn't make the tourney is thick headed in my opinion.
I don't think anyone is saying that team would be the championship favorite, but definitely in the mix for a Final Four. If you have a shot at the Final Four in your worst years, how bad is that?
Here, you are saying that lots of stars don't always mean having lots of skills. I agree with you. But it's a lesson that some here haven't learned.Originally posted by JasonSpear:
I don't get people that think UK will be an NIT team next year. I think that's fairly crazy, but whatever.Originally posted by The_Godfather:
If having 5 McDonald's All-Americans on a roster isn't good enough for some of you, you need to find a different hobby. That might not be Final Four material, but it's certainly not NIT probable either. It's amazing how warped some people's sense of normal has become under Cal.
To play devil's advocate (because I'm so good at it)... how many high school All-Americans you have on your team doesn't always equal success. You insinuate that having 5 All-Americans isn't NIT probable, and it may not be, but to throw the comparison back to 2013 because it's so easy... that team had 3 plus Noel who only wasn't a McDonald's All-American because he waited too long to reclassify plus Harrow who was a top 25 ranked player in the 2010 class.
It doesn't always matter. It's the skill of the player that matters, not the label provided to him by a fast food company. Wiltjer couldn't defend and was slow. Poythress couldn't dribble. Goodwin was out of control and couldn't shoot. Harrow was fragile.
This team will be more experienced, but what someone does in high school doesn't always amount to jack in college. I get sick of the "WELL WITH ALL THE ALL AMERICANS!!!!!" posts. It takes skill... not a label.