Jerry Kill Hired As OC

NBKnight

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Yea that's crap.

Of course he is in good health now. He is only working as associate athletic director.

Walt Bell at Maryland works something like 18 hour days. I don't know what Kill will work, but it's not some 40 hour a week job.

I doubt that you all will give him a easy go at it if the offense stinks. That's not even to mention his recruiting duties. Kids love him so i think he'll do well recruiting.

I love the guy, but it is very dangerous to hire a guy like that and certainly not a long term solution.

He has been working 12 hours a day at KSU.
 

Knight Shift

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Yea that's crap.

Of course he is in good health now. He is only working as associate athletic director.

Walt Bell at Maryland works something like 18 hour days. I don't know what Kill will work, but it's not some 40 hour a week job.

I doubt that you all will give him a easy go at it if the offense stinks. That's not even to mention his recruiting duties. Kids love him so i think he'll do well recruiting.

I love the guy, but it is very dangerous to hire a guy like that and certainly not a long term solution.
Wasn't it you or Shimmy crowing about how your coaches are all ex-HCs? There's always a risk--look what happened to our last OC--young guy just up and left. Don't see Kill doing that unless he clashes with Ash. What's a long term solution in college coaching these days? 3 years? Maybe Kill sees this as his last stop?
 
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Great choice, experienced in the B1G at a non-traditional powerhouse school. (I know they've had some success in the past.) You have to assume we did our homework on his health and that's the only major concern at this point. I'm sure he and Ash are on the same page on what the offensive game plan will be going forward.
 

mildone_rivals

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Wouldn't be true for any hire?
For me, yes. I think it should be true for any hire. But I find that, on our board, there are a fair amount of people staking out "positions" on this sort of stuff very early and then fighting about it later on.

I was more positive about the Ash hire than this one. Just offering up my initial thoughts.

But it's a done deal, apparently, and so soon enough I'm going to be rooting for this hire to be a huge success. I'm perfectly happy being wrong about these sorts of things and would derive no satisfaction at all to learn that my concerns were valid.
 

Knight Shift

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For me, yes. I think it should be true for any hire. But I find that, on our board, there are a fair amount of people staking out "positions" on this sort of stuff very early and then fighting about it later on.

I was more positive about the Ash hire than this one. Just offering up my initial thoughts.

But it's a done deal, apparently, and so soon enough I'm going to be rooting for this hire to be a huge success. I'm perfectly happy being wrong about these sorts of things and would derive no satisfaction at all to learn that my concerns were valid.
I'm glad I did not stake out a position and get too overenthusiastic about our last OC hire:
https://rutgers.forums.rivals.com/t...er-as-oc-houston-wr-coach.60575/#post-1176617
 

rutgers4life11

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I'll stake my position. Absolute slam dunk hire. Could not have dreamed for a better guy, and what's amazing is that it could be a long-term stop for Kill because he likely can't handle the demands of being a head coach again. Ash + Kill is a scary combo.
 

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First, gutsy move by Ash. A young HC bringing in an experienced OC. It took Schiano until Cignetti to figure out that if you're a defensive coach you need experienced help on the offensive side.

Second, look for Kill's QB coach/passing coordinator at Minny, Jim Zembrowski to come aboard. Presently the OC at D3 Hamline University and worked with Kill for years.

http://www.hamlineathletics.com/staff.aspx?staff=167
 

Knight Shift

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First, gutsy move by Ash. A young HC bringing in an experienced OC. It took Schiano until Cignetti to figure out that if you're a defensive coach you need experienced help on the offensive side.

Second, look for Kill's QB coach/passing coordinator at Minny, Jim Zembrowski to come aboard. Presently the OC at D3 Hamline University and worked with Kill for years.

http://www.hamlineathletics.com/staff.aspx?staff=167

Wonder if Jerry Kill can get any unhappy Gophers to make the move over to RU.
 

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Wasn't it you or Shimmy crowing about how your coaches are all ex-HCs? There's always a risk--look what happened to our last OC--young guy just up and left. Don't see Kill doing that unless he clashes with Ash. What's a long term solution in college coaching these days? 3 years? Maybe Kill sees this as his last stop?

Probably B1G because I'm not stupid enough to walk around puffing my chest out about Maryland football.
 

PSU_Nut

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Okay, Kill has epilepsy. He has it under control. Can he have a siezure, of course. But he, his doctors, his family, and RU are all okay with the health issue. I know Urban Meyer didn't have epilepsy but I seem to recall he left Florida for health reasons. Returned to coaching at that low stress level place called Ohio State. How has that worked out!
Meyer "health" issue involved a relationship with coed which was healed by him and his wife leaving the situation.
 
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You know Kill is only 55, Friedgen is 69 so in terms of age I wouldn't compare longevity of tenure. As long as his prior health issues remain in check and he's doing well here I could actually see him stick around. 55 isn't that old for a coach or anyone so don't think his age really is a factor.
 

Knight Shift

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You know Kill is only 55, Friedgen is 69 so in terms of age I wouldn't compare longevity of tenure. As long as his prior health issues remain in check and he's doing well here I could actually see him stick around. 55 isn't that old for a coach or anyone so don't think his age really is a factor.
Plus he was just mentored by Bill Snyder, who is 77 and still going strong. So we have 22 years of the Kill era ahead of us if he follows in Bill's footsteps.
 
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Rokodesh

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Very happy with the hire, and this morning I read that Jon Lewis' Personal QB coach played for Kill at So. Illinois, and is a big fan of his too.
 
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RUfinal4

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great hire. I am sure they will work something out where another coach will be prepared to step in if Kill has a health issue during the game.
 
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First, gutsy move by Ash. A young HC bringing in an experienced OC. It took Schiano until Cignetti to figure out that if you're a defensive coach you need experienced help on the offensive side.

Second, look for Kill's QB coach/passing coordinator at Minny, Jim Zembrowski to come aboard. Presently the OC at D3 Hamline University and worked with Kill for years.

http://www.hamlineathletics.com/staff.aspx?staff=167
I could see that. I wouldn't mind if he could lure back Matt Limegrover his OL coach/co-OC with Zembrowski at Minnesota to be OL coach here like he is at PSU. Unfortunately we probably couldn't match PSU in terms of salary.
 

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Great hire as far as I'm concerned! I'm actually shocked we were able to get him.

If I'm a legit recruit wondering if RU was serious about competing in the B1G this hire says absolutely YES!
 
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RUsince52

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He'll have to work more than that as an OC for us.
Maybe not. With his experience, he'll have a better starting point and be able to go in the right direction. I guess we'll know if it was strictly talent or something else.
Can't go thru another offensive season of no first downs so things are looking up and this is a confident hire. Give it a chance.
 

mildone_rivals

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Maybe not. With his experience, he'll have a better starting point and be able to go in the right direction. I guess we'll know if it was strictly talent or something else.
Can't go thru another offensive season of no first downs so things are looking up and this is a confident hire. Give it a chance.
I'm absolutely giving it a chance. Just expressing that I have reservations.

I had reservations about Ash & crew, but actually felt better about them at the end of the season than the start, unlike some here who wrote off Mehringer (and even Ash) due to poor results.

Despite my reservations, I will support Kill and even defend him against reactionary posts here on this board once things are underway. Just like I did with Ash and Mehringer, etc.
 

TheB1GTerp

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Wasn't it you or Shimmy crowing about how your coaches are all ex-HCs? There's always a risk--look what happened to our last OC--young guy just up and left. Don't see Kill doing that unless he clashes with Ash. What's a long term solution in college coaching these days? 3 years? Maybe Kill sees this as his last stop?

My concern has zero to do with his skill. As long as he is healthy you're good to go.

It is a 100% about his health. That is pretty much where all your risk is here. I am sure you will be recruited against here as well.

When the stress of the season is on, then we'll see how the health holds up.
 
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AshCatchEm

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I know I'll be in the minority, but color me not happy. Very questionable and implies interest may not have been there.

Yes, his teams at Minnesota were power running teams, but they didn't appear to run it out of a spread. Looked more like a pro set RU used to have.

What I am not really happy about is his offenses appeared to be unimaginative and predictable, and most importantly, had horrible quarterback play. Didn't throw much. Nelson and Leidner were recruited and were bottom level qbs.

I hope I am wrong. Maybe this is to hold the fort. Hasn't called plays in over 20 years and was not in FBS. Absolutely need a qb coach.
Bro we just hired the 2014 big ten coach of the year as an OC. That's big-time interest
 

Kbee3

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Not to worry. My bud predicted a while ago that RU was going to Kill with its next OC hire.
:stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye::stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye::cool2::stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye::stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
 

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My concern has zero to do with his skill. As long as he is healthy you're good to go.

It is a 100% about his health. That is pretty much where all your risk is here. I am sure you will be recruited against here as well.

When the stress of the season is on, then we'll see how the health holds up.

A great choice that I think will begin to pay dividends right away.

As far as Kill's health goes, you have to trust that he has his own best interests at the forefront.

And I believe that we all will be learning more about epilepsy and compassion in the coming year.
 

RUsince52

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I'm absolutely giving it a chance. Just expressing that I have reservations.

I had reservations about Ash & crew, but actually felt better about them at the end of the season than the start, unlike some here who wrote off Mehringer (and even Ash) due to poor results.

Despite my reservations, I will support Kill and even defend him against reactionary posts here on this board once things are underway. Just like I did with Ash and Mehringer, etc.
Right. We're all in the same boat, but many people don't want life jackets.
Kill will help rescue us.
 

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Excellent hire. This hire reflects highly on Ash as a leader - many in his position would not be comfortable bringing in someone with Kill's resume.

Kill is also a flat out winner no matter the level of competition or the geography - dude can flat out coach.

Ash is a Defensive guy so his most important hire was always going to be his offensive coordinator. He made a mistake on his first hire. He nailed it with this hire. I also like the idea of surrounding Kill with a bunch of young, ambitious coaches, which are already in place.
 
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