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Jerry Eaves: 'Fox will need to develop to a position'

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JC for 3

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Jerry seems like a nice enough guy, but has he been asleep at the wheel on Fox?? He's a point guard, was recruited as a point guard and is expected to be our point guard next year. Jerry was saying that this was a developmental year for Briscoe and that he would play at PG next season....

Interesting that a uofl guy spent most of his show today on UK's recruiting class. Interviewed one of Adebayo's coaches as well.
 
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buckkiller

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Last time I checked he is the #1 POINT GUARD IN NATION. His game is self explanatory! ! This dude must have no real bball knowledge and must want hits from BBN or something.
 
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jwheat

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I too think Fox will be playing a lot off the ball. Briscoe is running the point next year guys, and I think that is what is best for us, at least early in the year.
 
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I agree with Eaves. I think Briscoe is likely the better PG right now - I'm not talking about future projections or NBA potential, I'm saying right now and likely to begin next season. Why couldn't Fox play the role Briscoe did last season (i.e., WG/PG) with better outside shooting.
 
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jwheat

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caneintally said:
Nope Fox will be the pg as he is a better pg then Briscoe . Briscoe is the better player once he gets his shooting touch back but Fox is a far , far superior pg.
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I know Fox was all these things in high school. Briscoe showed us last year, especially late in the season that he was nearly impossible to stay in front of and will guard the hell out of his man. If he comes back with any resemblance of a jump shot he will be running lead guard early.
 
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Kybluedude

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I think Jerry Eaves is very fair and his emphasis on the players best interest is sincere. I was skeptical of him at first but he has won me over. Very critical of UL and its coaches over the scandal. Fair guy. Ethical as well. His brother played football for UK.
 
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Briscoe assist to turnover ratio this year was 1.6 to 1. If he's going to be the PG, that number will need to improve as well as FT shooting.
 
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ganner918_rivals60369

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JRS_OH_Cat said:
Briscoe assist to turnover ratio this year was 1.6 to 1. If he's going to be the PG, that number will need to improve as well as FT shooting.
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He definitely needs to improve on that, but he wasn't playing point last year. Just shifting his position to the point would likely improve on that. Looking just at the top 40 in assists this season (first page on ESPN), the average a/t ratio is 2.5 so he has a decent way to go to get a typical top tier point guard but I think he can do it.
 
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Blueisbest

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Jerry Eaves has to talk about UK or he will only have about 8 listeners. And 3 of those accidentally tuned to his show. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
 
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Fox is going to have trouble scoring, I dont care what everyone here says. He'll be one of the top assist guys in the SEC and an elite on ball defender who we will need on the floor. However, he's a mediocre shooter that's not great at finishing around the rim.
10ppg, 5.5 apg, 3.5rpg, 2.5 spg, 2.5 to/pg.....kid is gonna be really good but have his flaws.
 
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From what I saw the offense turned absolutely stagnant when Tyler left the game. I am not saying that Briscoe is a bad point guard or anything I just think that he is way better cutting off the ball instead of pounding it out front. Either way it will be an adjustment period for either Fox or Briscoe since Ulis was the man last year.
 
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Like others I think Briscoe will be our starting lead guard next season, and I think he will be all season long. He was the number 1 PG in his class, very athletic, terrific defender, and I think he would do well as a pass-first PG and defender. Not to mention he will be a sophomore, much like Ulis was this year, meaning he will have had a year in the system and know what Cal wants on the court.

Fox is the better shooter (hopefully) and would be better on the wing than Briscoe. I also think Briscoe improves his shooting over the summer and will be able to keep the D honest.

Fox could take over the point if Briscoe doesn't prove himself early in the season, but I think he does, and I think we start 3 guards in PG: Briscoe; SG: Fox; WG: Monk.
 
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TBCat

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Fox is nothing but a PG. The biggest draw back with Fox is that he isn't a great shooter. No way can you play him off the ball. He is clearly pass first and is very good at setting team mates up. So yeah he's a PG for certain. He just needs to work on his shot enough that teams don't neutralize him by backing off him the way they did Briscoe.
 
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KentuckyCat420 said:
Fox is going to have trouble scoring, I dont care what everyone here says. He'll be one of the top assist guys in the SEC and an elite on ball defender who we will need on the floor. However, he's a mediocre shooter that's not great at finishing around the rim.
10ppg, 5.5 apg, 3.5rpg, 2.5 spg, 2.5 to/pg.....kid is gonna be really good but have his flaws.
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Fox will have no problem scoring. The dude is a blur and can get to the rim or pull up with a floater and contrary to what you think, dude can finish at the rim.

I agree about his outside shooting but he's gonna score a plenty, especially In transition.
 
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Eaves went to school at louisville. That would mean he is not very intelligent and would never be able to figure out that Mr. Fox is actually a point guard. That concept is a little to complex for a ul grad. Now ask a ul grad about some other subject and they might well be an expert...
 
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KentuckyCat420 said:
Fox is going to have trouble scoring, I dont care what everyone here says. He'll be one of the top assist guys in the SEC and an elite on ball defender who we will need on the floor. However, he's a mediocre shooter that's not great at finishing around the rim.
10ppg, 5.5 apg, 3.5rpg, 2.5 spg, 2.5 to/pg.....kid is gonna be really good but have his flaws.
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Where on earth did you get those stats? Fox lead the Houston area in scoring last year with an average of 31.1 points per game. Moreover the competition was not a bunch of cupcakes. Virtually every school in this area has an enrollment of 2500 to 3500 and a great pool of top kids from which to build a team. Cypress Lakes played tough teams every game and Fox was nearly always double teamed. In spite of that he lead the Houston area in scoring. Go do your homework.
 
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Briscoe is a very good passer, but his lack of quicks + shooting killed his ability to run a team & keep the offense flowing. Just stagnated everytime Ulis left the floor & Briscoe ran the show.

Nobody is taking the PG duties away from Fox.
 
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I expect Fox to be the starting pg from the start next year. Thinking Fox can't score the ball based on a couple of AA games seems like a bad idea. He is an explosive guy with the ball in his hands and Briscoe has shown he's comfortable playing the wing and is a great rebounder. When Ulis was out last year the offense completely shut down. It wasn't all Briscoe's fault but I just think Fox is the man we will want to have the ball on point.
 
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Where on earth did you get those stats? Fox lead the Houston area in scoring last year with an average of 31.1 points per game. Moreover the competition was not a bunch of cupcakes. Virtually every school in this area has an enrollment of 2500 to 3500 and a great pool of top kids from which to build a team. Cypress Lakes played tough teams every game and Fox was nearly always double teamed. In spite of that he lead the Houston area in scoring. Go do your homework.
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Was he the only talent on the team?? Seems strange to have a PG average 31 ppg unless he was the only player they had. He looked pretty good in the 2 all-star games but his shooting did look suspect. Also played with a lot of flair but out of control a bit at times. Cal will fix that or he will be riding the pine imo. He's not OAD at his present skill level altho he may think he is.( Don't all UK frosh think that way). He doesn't look as good as Tyler when Tyler came in. But he is taller.
 
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Ah Jerry's okay. I knew the guy and we graduated in the same class in high school. He's definitely a UL guy so I'll have to take everything he says with a grain of salt. Basically a good man with poor taste.
 
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Kybluedude said:
I think Jerry Eaves is very fair and his emphasis on the players best interest is sincere. I was skeptical of him at first but he has won me over. Very critical of UL and its coaches over the scandal. Fair guy. Ethical as well. His brother played football for UK.
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I hear Jerry's show pretty frequently as it comes on right after KSR. I agree with your assessment of him. He is definitely UofL first, as he should be. I don't always agree with everything he says, but he is usually very fair where UK is concerned.
 
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This reminds me of Vitale calling a UK game back in the Tubby days riding Tondo off to the NFL as a defensive back I about spit my drink up everywhere! He was suggesting the way he said it was like he isnt goid enough for nba but would make a great defensive back lol. Same type crap here. UL blow hard just jealous of KENTUCKY and its recruits. UL would sacrifice all their firstborn sons if they had a player like Fox running the show next year.
 
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It wasn't totally Briscoe's fault that the offense stalled when Ulis left the floor. If Murray wasn't having one of his stretches where he could drive into 3 defenders and hit a floater while falling down, there wasn't anyone else on the floor that could create their own shot, much less create one for somebody else. I just took a quick look at the stats on ESPN, the rest of the team (take out Ulis, Briscoe, and Murray) had only 80 assist on the year. 2015: Towns: 44, Stein: 38, Lyles: 38, Dakari: 29.
 
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revcort

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I think Fox is likely to play the point from day one. I'm sure he'll play off the ball some, but he will be our primary ball handler. Now I fully expect Briscoe to run the offense at times as well but will likely play off the ball most of the time, driving and scoring and shooting midrange. I wouldn't be surprised to see that same 3 guard lineup at times, with Briscoe playing a similar role as he did this season.
 
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GonzoCat90

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no_neutrality said:
Was he the only talent on the team?? Seems strange to have a PG average 31 ppg unless he was the only player they had. He looked pretty good in the 2 all-star games but his shooting did look suspect. Also played with a lot of flair but out of control a bit at times. Cal will fix that or he will be riding the pine imo. He's not OAD at his present skill level altho he may think he is.( Don't all UK frosh think that way). He doesn't look as good as Tyler when Tyler came in. But he is taller.
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There is zero chance Fox "rides the pine" and nearly as low a chance that he's back for a second year. He's a stud, and your analysis from 2 all star games shouldn't carry much, if any, weight.
 
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