It's truly amazing how Epstein attracted high profile people from all walks of life and from so many countries.
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It's truly amazing how the DOJ did a great job of redacting the names and photos of high-profile perps (like Trump) while exposing the unredacted names and photos of underage female victims. Why did the DOJ do that? What and why is Trump and the DOJ covering up?
Hello? McFly? These were underage girls. So you support pedo Trump's sex crimes? Apparently so. You're sick. Thanks for sharing.
Thing is that there are a lot of MAGAs like you out there that simply do not care what crime Trump commits and that's sad commentary on you all. Trump has drug you down to his level, rock bottom.
But the Dems had control of these files for years and buried it. I find it hard to believe there is anything indicating Trump did anything illegal with Epstein. It is just simple logic for me:
If they had the goods on Trump/Epstein, there would have been no need for Russia collusion, impeachments, very fine people hoax, the silly lawfare, J6, and all the other bullsh!t the left and MSM pushed on us to get Trump. Kinda like if you can run the ball 5 yards every play, you don't need to pass.
There is literally no better way to crush the MAGA movement than convict Trump of sex crimes associated with Epstein. Why didn't they do it if they had the goods?
And not only did the Dems not release info, the legacy media did not care about it one bit, both when Biden was POTUS, and Trump before him, and Obama before him. The only reason this became a story is because (a) Lex Fridman, an engineer, asked Trump about it during the 2024 campaign and then (b) Trump won the 2024 election.
Nobody asked Kamala about it during the 2024 campaign. And if Kamala had won the 2024 election nobody would be talking about it now.
You're expecting rational thinking from people who put tampons in boys bathrooms.
Your entire thing about the Epstein files is "But Trump"?!?!
What about Mossad having blackmale material on virtually 90% of DC power players?
What about the torture, murdering of humans for these monsters?
What about the war on Goyim from Jews, and "the Jews are winning"?
I haven't seen evidence that Trump is involved yet. I've seen enough, however, to know that DC should be burned to the ground at this point.
LMAO
This chick is more dense than your are. That's saying a lot.
Trump's references in the Epstein drop are nothing new. They are from before Pizzagate, which is now pretty much confirmed. The Podesta brothers are still the most satanic beings I've ever seen.
It’s pretty simple - they’re all complicit. You go after Trump then you’re forced to go after Clinton, Podesta, Gates, etc.. The entire system is morally bankrupt and it’s more about protecting their friends vs exposing pedos.
I think we found the root of moe's problem. He would rather read/listen to someone tell him what the fact are rather than look at them for himself and draw his own conclusions.
The politicians and media prey on him and millions of Americans like him who are stupid and lazy. If they weren't, the "very fine people" hoax would've been dead in the water within 1 week of Obama's speech claiming that.
It took 5 minutes for anyone to learn the truth but that **** went on for years. I gave always said the best way to determine someone's TDS, is to based on what year it was when they accepted the "very fine people" comment was a hoax. I guarantee there are people on this forum who still believe it is true.
Excellent take on Moe, especially the "Americans like him who are stupid and lazy" part.
I have tried to meet Moe halfway on several issues....but...it's useless. I pity anyone that has to be around such a hate filled unreasonable human being.
The other aspect is the intentional lying that people don't even pay attention to.
The easiest example was Trump saying we gave $350B in support to Ukraine and the MSM immediately cut to the commentary after his clip to tell us the US actually only gave $110 Billion to Ukraine "to support the war". Moe and others here couldn't wait to come here and tell us how Trump lied about our support for Ukraine.
The problem is Trump never said anything about a war and the US has been funding Ukraine long before the war. Trump's number is right unless you pretend he was only talking about the war.
I don't even know how they still get credentials to the White House.
There's nothing funny about a pedo being king of the world. You could have found this so why didn't you?
How Trump Appears in the Epstein Files
How Trump Appears in the Epstein Files
The New York Times found more than 5,300 files with references to Mr. Trump and related terms. They include salacious and unverified claims, as well as documents that had already been made public.Using a proprietary search tool, The New York Times identified more than 5,300 files containing more than 38,000 references to Mr. Trump, his wife, his Mar-a-Lago club in Florida, and other related words and phrases in the latest batch of emails, government files, videos and other records released by the Justice Department. Previous installments of the Epstein files, which the department released late last year, included another 130 files with Trump-related references.
Many of the documents released on Friday that mention Mr. Trump are news articles and other publicly available materials that had landed in Mr. Epstein’s email inbox. None of those files include any direct communication between Mr. Trump and Mr. Epstein. (Few of the files date back as far as the early 2000s, when the two men were friends.)
Here is what our review of the files has found so far.
Mr. Trump is named in unverified tips received by the F.B.I.
Mr. Trump is one of half a dozen prominent men about whom the agency’s files includes “salacious information,” according to an email an F.B.I. official wrote to a colleague last year.Some of that information appears to be in the form of more than a dozen tips submitted through the F.B.I.’s National Threat Operations Center in West Virginia. Some of the tips include accusations of sexual abuse by Mr. Trump and Mr. Epstein. F.B.I. officials last summer compiled the tips into a summary, which was among the files released on Friday.
The F.B.I. summary does not include corroborating information, and The Times is not describing the details of the unverified claims. The names of some of the tipsters in the document have not been redacted.
The newly released files also include notes and transcripts of interviews that federal investigators conducted with Mr. Epstein’s victims, some of whom describe interactions with Mr. Trump.
For instance, handwritten notes from one interview in September 2019 — about a month after Mr. Epstein died by suicide in a Manhattan jail — say that a victim, whose name has been redacted, recalled being transported in a dark green car to Mar-a-Lago to meet Mr. Trump.
“This is a good one, huh?” the victim recalls Mr. Epstein saying to Mr. Trump. The notes do not suggest misconduct by Mr. Trump.
In another file, Juan Alessi, who worked for Mr. Epstein, is reported to have told investigators that Mr. Trump — along with other well-known individuals — had visited Mr. Epstein’s home.
A White House spokesman declined to comment on questions about specific documents and referred to Mr. Trump’s comments to reporters on Saturday, when he claimed that the files “absolved me” of wrongdoing.
Some of the documents confirm previous reports about Mr. Epstein and Mr. Trump.
Investigators, lawyers, journalists and others have spent years trying to understand the extent of Mr. Epstein’s relationship with powerful men, including Mr. Trump, and a huge volume of information is already in the public domain. Many of the Trump-related files that The Times reviewed buttress or recycle those materials.Some of the new files are duplicates of emails and other records that the Justice Department or the House Oversight Committee released late last year. Those files show that, long after Mr. Trump and Mr. Epstein’s relationship ended, Mr. Epstein remained intensely focused on his former friend, which included looking for ways to leverage Mr. Trump’s political rise for his own purposes.
Some newly released files add to the sense that Mr. Epstein was keeping close tabs on the president. In 2018, for example, Mr. Epstein’s accountant emailed him a link to a Reuters article about congressional investigations into Mr. Trump and Deutsche Bank, which for years was the president’s primary lender. At the time of the email, Deutsche Bank was also Mr. Epstein’s main bank.
The documents also include files that confirmed previous news articles about Mr. Epstein’s relationship with the future president.
For example, last August, The Times published an article showing the inside of Mr. Epstein’s Manhattan mansion, including how he displayed photos with powerful men like Mr. Trump. Similar photos are included in the files released by the Justice Department.
There are also scattered references to the compendium of letters that was presented to Mr. Epstein on his 50th birthday in 2003. In one newly released email, from late 2002, an unidentified sender provides an update on the plans for the birthday book, apparently noting that submissions from Mr. Trump and others have not yet arrived.
The birthday book, which was released by a congressional committee last summer, ultimately included a bawdy entry apparently signed by Mr. Trump. Mr. Trump has denied writing it and has sued The Wall Street Journal for linking him to it.
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Unverified seems to come up often in your crusade against Trump.
Thanks..that is good info. I have read the whole thing and did not see any hard or collaborating info about Trump being "a pedo being king of the world".
I have seen some of the old statements from several teenage girls claiming Trump made them do things. There never been any evidence to back up those claims.
Also there are many references in the article in regard to Trump that state there is no evidence that Trump was guilty of anything.
Trump has NEVER been charged with anything in regard to his relationship with Epstein.
You asked about the number of Trump mentions and I just showed you where she got her info from. Him and Epstein were bffs for 10+ years so of course there would be lots of Trump mentions especially when there are millions of pages out and that much more to be released. Stay focused.
They were friends until Trump ended that friendship in 2003. Yes... there are tons of Trump mentions in the released material.
After Trump kicked Epstein out in 2003 the article states that "Epstein remained intensely focused on his former friend, which included looking for ways to leverage Mr. Trump’s political rise for his own purposes.
Some newly released files add to the sense that Mr. Epstein was keeping close tabs on the president."
Moe cant see that all he has is unverified, unnamed and people who cant remember...
Years before Trump went into politics he ran away from this guy .
Trump was /is rich long before politics and was a ***** master and legally slept with whomever he could.
Beyond Maxwell, no one has been charged. Ask yourself why that is. She’s certainly not the only guilty party here. Also, there have been a lot of allegations w no charges - Prince Andrew, Clinton, Gates, etc. - do you think those are BS too? Or just Trump? Regardless of when Trump says he cut the relationship off, him and Epstein were good friends and we should be critical of that, especially with the allegations that are out there. It’s amazing to me how quick folks will dismiss those, but you get allegations against Dems and they’ll jump all over it. I’m not for one side or the other but the bending over backwards to try to defend Trump in this scenario is disgraceful. He clearly wants to sweep it under the rug - I wonder why.
I give the same to all that have been mentioned.
I have NEVER dismissed talk about Trump or bent over backwards to defend Trump....The reason I post more about Trump is because of other posts and that Trump is mentioned in the media 24/7.
The evidence against Prince Andrew and Gates is more and has been been more or less backed up by others.
Show me where I said that the charges against Trump are "BS".
BTW...maybe you should be more honest....you do suffer from TDS and I bet you agree with Moe that Trump is "a pedo being king of the world".
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You just dismissed every allegation against him based upon the same amount of evidence that’s been brought forward for every single person I mentioned. And, TDS lmaoo typical bootlicker response.
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Wrong......you are laughable.....show me any post where I "dismissed" any allegation against Trump...I fact I am sure that Trump did get BJ's several times.
You or nobody that I have found can provide any hard evidence.
If you are soooo certain....bring charges against Trump...you have that right.
You are a pretender....But you are showing your true colors...you are a true Trump hater.
Wow you’re dense… How about this one
I know reading comprehension is hard but you specifically referenced “I have seen statement from teenage girls but no evidence to back up those claims” which seems like dismissing the allegations
My point was that’s the case for literally everyone mentioned in the files. We have seen zero evidence, just allegations and random photos. But, do you think Epstein/Maxwell trafficked these girls to no one? How come no one has been brought to justice? We’ll never see the real evidence - it’ll continue to be redacted or suppressed. The government has proven this time and time again.
Therefore, anyone that was as close to Epstein as Trump and others were - we should be extremely critical and skeptical of, instead of immediately dismissing allegations because we will never get the truth. Power and influence always wins.
You still don't get it.Wow you’re dense… How about this one
I know reading comprehension is hard but you specifically referenced “I have seen statement from teenage girls but no evidence to back up those claims” which seems like dismissing the allegations
My point was that’s the case for literally everyone mentioned in the files. We have seen zero evidence, just allegations and random photos. But, do you think Epstein/Maxwell trafficked these girls to no one? How come no one has been brought to justice? We’ll never see the real evidence - it’ll continue to be redacted or suppressed. The government has proven this time and time again.
Therefore, anyone that was as close to Epstein as Trump and others were - we should be extremely critical and skeptical of, instead of immediately dismissing allegations because we will never get the truth. Power and influence always wins.
I have dismissed NOTHING. I already said Trump probably got many BJ's. Problem is I have ZERO proof he has.
You’ll never get proof. Doesn’t mean that they’re innocent and don’t deserve criticism.
I NEVER said Trump was innocent of anything....he probably got BJ's. What do you want to happen with Trump getting BJ's?
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So you agree he is a pedophile - thanks for clarification
NOOO....I do not agree that he is a pedophile....but I'm 100% sure you do.So you agree he is a pedophile - thanks for clarification
SOOO.....What are you going to do about it since you have investigated the charges against him and have found him guilty?
Obviously you do - you wouldn’t confirm his innocence. Which side of the fence are you going to be on? Or are you going to continue to try to straddle both ways?
I cannot confirm anyone's innocence or guilt...can you ? However, I'm on the side of everyone's innocence until they are found guilty...I hope that's not to hard for you to figure out.