JBJ Rumor UK?

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I may be wrong but I thought Cal won't take anyone they recruited that chose somewhere else
I hope so. I don't want us to be a second choice. Also we don't need to be a fall back option. If you are good enough to come here you will be asked to come here. It should be a one time invite.

You can always use a shooter though...
 
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Cats192

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Some of you are ridiculous.

If a hot girl chooses someone else but then wants to give you a piece 3 years later, why not?

JBJ is a very good college player. He can help us win.
 
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I hope so. I don't want us to be a second choice. Also we don't need to be a fall back option. If you are good enough to come here you will be asked to come here. It should be a one time invite.

You can always use a shooter though...
He plays less defense than Mulder and is less athletic. jmo
 

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I don't care about his defense and I'm not too sure we'll need any more shooting than we'll already have, but I want him here just to piss in IU fans cheerios. There, I said it.
Well, I hadn't considered that. Might be worth it for that alone.
 
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But JBJ out shot Monk in FG%, FT% and 3-PT% in 2016/17.

It won't be anyone on RR's decision to make.

The decision will be solely dependent on if JBJ does graduate in 3-years and if he doesn't want to stay at IOU and if he doesn't want play for pay (overseas) and if he wanted to transfer here and a BIG IF, if Coach Cal would except JBJ as a grad transfer.:chairshot::flush::eek:kay::eek:kay::eek:kay:
 

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I fully realize why some of our fans would want him, but I'm in the camp of saying "pass". I do not want anyone who has ever played at IU, UL, UNCheat, or Duke, never, but of course IU and UL are the top two, at least for me.

That said, if it does happen, then that means Cal wanted him and I'll welcome him to the Wildcat family, but honestly I just don't want anyone who has ever been associated with that program.

I've always hated IU the most of any other program for over 50 years, and that's not changing anytime soon. UL is a very close second, but IU, with Knight back in the day, and their trashy, crappy horrid fanbase makes me hate that program with a passion.

Look at the positive side. Just think how much it would piss off the moronic IU fans. That's just a plus.
 

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But JBJ out shot Monk in FG%, FT% and 3-PT% in 2016/17.

It won't be anyone on RR's decision to make.

The decision will be solely dependent on if JBJ does graduate in 3-years and if he doesn't want to stay at IOU and if he doesn't want play for pay (overseas) and if he wanted to transfer here and a BIG IF, if Coach Cal would except JBJ as a grad transfer.:chairshot::flush::eek:kay::eek:kay::eek:kay:
Outshot? How about Monk made 95 3's for 41%, JBJ 91 3's for 42%; both were around 46% fg's, both 82% ft's. Looks like a push to me.
 
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When we are clanking 3 pointers off the rim and struggling to reach 75 points, you will be sorry you did not want another shooter.
 
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When we are clanking 3 pointers off the rim and struggling to reach 75 points, you will be sorry you did not want another shooter.
When we watch him get blown by time and time, struggling to prevent the other team from scoring 80, you'll be sorry you did not want better defenders.
 

Montana81

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When we watch him get blown by time and time, struggling to prevent the other team from scoring 80, you'll be sorry you did not want better defenders.

We'll likely have 3 7 footers in the front court next season. If they get by one of our guards so what. That just means we'll have guys already out on the break for when the shot gets pitched
 

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Outshot? How about Monk made 95 3's for 41%, JBJ 91 3's for 42%; both were around 46% fg's, both 82% ft's. Looks like a push to me.
So there's a guy who's a push whether he's a better shooter than Malik Monk and we don't want him? I'm confused. Lord if the kid wants to come to Kentucky, let him come. We have all the scrappy athletic rebounders we can handle. We really need someone who can hit a jumper beside Quade.
 
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We'll likely have 3 7 footers in the front court next season. If they get by one of our guards so what. That just means we'll have guys already out on the break for when the shot gets pitched
Being tall doesn't equate to being a good shot blocker or defender. It just means you're tall. I will wait and actually watch them play at this level before I determine what they will be. That's why I can make the assessment that JBJ isn't a good defender. He's played D1 ball for 3 years and has yet to show ability or desire on the defensive end. He is a great shooter! I'll happily admit that, but basketball is a lot more than being a great shooter.
 

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I hope we add this guy.

Obviously we need shooting for next year, but we need experience even more. If Diallo is the only non-freshman in the rotation next year we may lose 10 games. We'd still be one of the most talented, and probably be one of the better teams come tourney time, but that many losses will give us a tough path.
 
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So there's a guy who's a push whether he's a better shooter than Malik Monk and we don't want him? I'm confused. Lord if the kid wants to come to Kentucky, let him come. We have all the scrappy athletic rebounders we can handle. We really need someone who can hit a jumper beside Quade.
As Good as Monk is, a lot of players are shooting better percentages than him this year. Go look at the bottom feeder D-1 schools, D2 and D3, NAIA. A ton of them have several guys who can light it up from 3. Yet, their teams still suck and they can't get the opportunities at better schools. Now, I'm not saying BJB is that level, but his D is pretty bad.
 

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Good shooters and bad defender often go hand in hand. Why? If a guy is athletic enough to blow by you and get to the rim, he will. If a dude has to camp out and shoot 3s, he might no be much of an athlete. Seen in for years with dook guys, great shooters horrible defenders.
 

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Outshot? How about Monk made 95 3's for 41%, JBJ 91 3's for 42%; both were around 46% fg's, both 82% ft's. Looks like a push to me.

I completely agree with you, so who would turn down a player with either of these decent shooting %'s?
Only someone with a complete lack of any basketball knowledge whatsoever!
 
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Hard to imagine that any kid would transfer to UK after playing at IU. I've lived in Indiana and the hatred for UK is almost psychopathic. First day I went to the store in Evansville I saw a guy, probably in his early '40s wearing a shirt that said "IU" on the front and "Kentucky sucks" on the back, and this was in June.
 

railroadkat_1

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Yes sir, and I make no bones about it. I'll never forget when Knight slapped Joe B. Hall upside the head; I could have strangled that MF had I been there. I rememebr thinking, : Joe B, go slap that MF upside HIS head, but of course Joe B had too much class.

Remember the reports of our players and fans being spit on, vulgar insults hurled at CHILDREN the year they beat us on Watford's last second shot and they acted as though they'd just won the NCAA champoinship?

Screw IU and their fans. They can keep Blackmon, he chose that POS school, let him play there.


WCW How can anyone have forgotten about the cheap shot to Joe B. Hall's head? Coach Hall didn't forget though as UK beat the Hoosiers during the NCAA tourney and UK went to the Final Four. He never Smacked Coach Hall again. What a sweet payback that was. Go Big Blue!
 

Montana81

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Good shooters and bad defender often go hand in hand. Why? If a guy is athletic enough to blow by you and get to the rim, he will. If a dude has to camp out and shoot 3s, he might no be much of an athlete. Seen in for years with dook guys, great shooters horrible defenders.

I think it's okay to have 1 of those guys on the court. Or if you have a mistake erasing big man in the front court like we had with Davis and Towns. It's when you have multiple guys on the court and no shot blocker that it becomes an issue.
 

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Hard to imagine that any kid would transfer to UK after playing at IU. I've lived in Indiana and the hatred for UK is almost psychopathic. First day I went to the store in Evansville I saw a guy, probably in his early '40s wearing a shirt that said "IU" on the front and "Kentucky sucks" on the back, and this was in June.

Most of the kids are sane, rational human beings who want to do what's best for their future. It's how Malik Monk ended up here. It's the fans who act like psychopaths.
 
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I completely agree with you, so who would turn down a player with either of these decent shooting %'s?
Only someone with a complete lack of any basketball knowledge whatsoever!
You realize a lot of players have better numbers than these 2 at several mid majors, D-2, D-3 and NAIA schools? Do you also think we should be handing them offers as well?
 

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He can't score if he don't see the floor. And he won't see it if he's not playing on both sides of the ball.

A lot of this is "coach speak". With a 30-second shot clock and for so many teams trying to zone UK, you have to be able to score the ball at some point.

All of these UK players below did not excel at defense, especially defending 1 on 1:
  • Willis 20+mpg
  • Booker 20+mpg
  • Young 20+mpg
  • Wiltjer 20+mpg
  • Lamb 30+mpg
ALL had one thing in common though.....they were ALL considered pretty good shooters.
 

Montana81

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Man. Wiltjer is to this day the worst defensive player to get clock at UK that I can remember.

Patrick sparks and Cameron Mills were both better defenders.
 

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You realize a lot of players have better numbers than these 2 at several mid majors, D-2, D-3 and NAIA schools? Do you also think we should be handing them offers as well?

I know a few with better shooting numbers down at the local YMCA too but I don't think that counts for anything nor are you being realistic about what a D-2, D-3 or NAIA talented player would bring to UK.

There is NO WAY to compare stats at IOU/ BIG-10 school/ competition versus schools that Brad Calipari could have possibly started for and excelled at.

It's not even as close as comparing the NBA with an Asian or Euro league.
 

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Man. Wiltjer is to this day the worst defensive player to get clock at UK that I can remember.

Patrick sparks and Cameron Mills were both better defenders.

I've seen guys in wheelchairs or with prosthetic legs play better "D" than poor Kyle! He always looked like he was wearing 5-lb. ankle weights.
 
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I know a few with better shooting numbers down at the local YMCA too but I don't think that counts for anything nor are you being realistic about what a D-2, D-3 or NAIA talented player would bring to UK.

There is NO WAY to compare stats at IOU/ BIG-10 school/ competition versus schools that Brad Calipari could have possibly started for and excelled at.

It's not even as close as comparing the NBA with an Asian or Euro league.

I don't want a D-2, D-3 or NAIA player to transfer here. I'm just using your logic. You're saying a player who has demonstrated those same skills should come play here simply because he can shoot. I love having a great shooter as much as the next guy, but I would much prefer just having a good shooter and strong defender vs. great shooter and bad defender.