Great NBA debut. 21pts 7reb 5stl. Also hit game winner.
Jayson Tatum
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Glad to hear it! Hope he has more stellar nights like this especially when the regular season tips off in the fall!
Jayson and Jaylen Brown looked really good together last night. I know it's one summer league game but having two wings like that, at 19 and 20 years old is exciting for Cletic fans.
Tatum looked smooth. He is built for the open spaces of the NBA court.
Tatum looked smooth. He is built for the open spaces of the NBA court.
Tatum is going to be a star. So happy we had him just if it was for only one year and am thankful and grateful that he among others was not the type of player hof coach roy williams wanted or needed by unc. OFC
Adding Tatum and Hayward makes Boston look pretty darn good on paper. The NBA is starting to lure me in. Hopefully they drop to a 60 game season and go to a single elimination playoff format.
Can you imagine in a couple of years Tatum out on the wing playing the 3 position and taking the man guarding him to the rack on taking a 3 and then taking over at pg for a while. High hopes for this young man. OFC
Boston is making some good moves. Tatum was the best player in the draft.
Tatum is built to be a pro in today's NBA. He's potentially a 1-4. Kennard is also having a very good summer league....doesn't look out of place one bit. I know it's still summer league but I was in the camp that believed his athleticism, especially on defense, would hold him back. Still don't think he will be more than a role player at best, but there are far worse fates.
The only thing I wonder about Boston, is their ability to rebound. They were 29th in rebounding percentage. Horford was averaging less than 7 boards a game at the 5 position. And with Hayward, Crowder, Tatum, and Jaylen Brown all on the roster, it looks like they're fully committed to playing small ball. I don't see the rebounding situation getting any better this season. They should be able to compensate for the rebounding deficiencies a little better this season with all the star-power, but it still might be a deciding factor between a few more wins or a few more losses.
I agree with you. If I'm Kennard, I'm stoked that JJ just got the money he did. At the same age, Kennard is much more versatile than JJ, so hopefully he's hungry to prove he's as good or better than him. If Luke works hard, he could have at least the career JJ has had, no disrespect to JJ though
Tatum will be a star, and possibly Duke's best pro ever in time....
One thing I did disagree though and I had to rewind to make sure I heard it right, sorry I don't know who was commentating but they said "right now Tatum is a better 4 than 3". I just don't agree with that at all.
One thing I did disagree though and I had to rewind to make sure I heard it right, sorry I don't know who was commentating but they said "right now Tatum is a better 4 than 3". I just don't agree with that at all.
IMO, there's not even a difference in those two positions in today's NBA unless you're putting a bruiser at the 4 anyway. The Celtics are a perfect system for Jayson because they are "positionless" much like Duke. He gets to just play and learn. If he gets to run the O off the initial or secondary break, he's going to be All-NBA in no time.
With the addition of Heyward how do you think it will affect the other of Jayson and Brown.Also find it funny that that no talent Butler team we beat has better NBA players than we did
Hayward is certainly the best NBA player of that game. But as a team Duke definitely wins that race, they have him and Mack right? Am I missing anyone else?
No. Matt Howard plays in France.
No other players were even on the NBA radar.
I don't watch the NBA and I don't doubt one bit what you're saying is true hokie, but, the commentator apparently disagrees with you because he stated "he's a better 4 than 3 right now".
I don't doubt it was said, I just have a hard time with the way the game is played coming up with a statement like that. I'll tell you what though, in summer league and down the stretch for Duke, Tatum turned into a hell of a rebounder and defender.
Mostly all NBA teams still start traditional line-ups with traditional positions. However, just about every NBA team goes small with shooting for over 30 minutes a game. Tatum's role for the Celtics will be playing the 3/4 (along with Hayward and Crowder) and the 3/4 is as inter-changeable as the 2/3 is in the college game.
Said this before but Tatum's style on offense reminds me of Kobe. Not saying he is near being the player Kobe was (primarily because of Tatum's defense), but he truly does incorporate so many of the offensive styles that made Kobe one of the best ever.
Coach, I think both Brown and Tatum play and play a lot. Obviously more if Hayward was not there but Stevens likes to play his bench and loves versatile forwards. Brown and Tatum will play a minimum of 20 minutes a game IMO. Especially if one or two of Bradley, Smart or Crowder are no longer in Boston. Which seems very likely. Unfortunately so but that is the price of doing business in pro sports. Jae Crowder became my favorite Celtic over the last few years and I would hate to see him leave.
You should add another question mark.
You haven't been introduced to JWill yet sir? The staff at DI have been working with him with some sensitivity classes. They are doing shock therapy right now with him, so the long row of question marks are probably the result of that. We hope in time this will start to pay off, if not the dosage will be increased. Please be patient Denniden
To be fair, I had listed Mack in my post which he was replying to, in reference to the only two guys butler has in the NBA from that team.
Jae Crowder has one of the best contract values in the league. It's a shame that he's the most likely to go, because he really offers a lot to the team. If the Celtics can unload his contract (not too hefty at 6.7 mil), they should be okay for signing Hayward and staying under the salary cap. I've heard some say that the C's won't get much in return for Crowder because everyone knows that they're trying to dump salaries. But, if you're an NBA GM wouldn't two 2nd-rd picks or a first be worth the price for Crowder? Ainge isn't going to get proper value for him, obviously, but I think NBA GM's are missing out if they don't try to separate themselves from other organizations with a half-way decent offer.
Personally, I'd like to see the Celtics go after a superstar big man like Anthony Davis. They could include Crowder, Horford, 2018 Nets 1st Rd Pick (almost a guarantee to be top 5), 2018 Lakers 1st Rd Pick (potentially more picks if needed) . A lineup of Isaiah Thomas, Avery Bradley/Marcus Smart, Gordon Hayward, Jaylen Brown/ Jayson Tatum, and Anthony Davis would be a threat to win the whole thing.
Personally, I'd like to see the Celtics go after a superstar big man like Anthony Davis. They could include Crowder, Horford, 2018 Nets 1st Rd Pick (almost a guarantee to be top 5), 2018 Lakers 1st Rd Pick (potentially more picks if needed) . A lineup of Isaiah Thomas, Avery Bradley/Marcus Smart, Gordon Hayward, Jaylen Brown/ Jayson Tatum, and Anthony Davis would be a threat to win the whole thing.
I think one of Ainge's goals is to someday have a shot at Anthony Davis. Frankly, he would fit is perfectly in Boston's system. Brad Stevens is very much like coach K is in offensive mindset. Versatility is key and Boston has that all over the roster , sans up front at the moment. Boston could make a very enticing offer for any big time star. AD is a star that you shell out everything for IMO. I am very happy Ainge decided against giving in to ridiculous demands for Paul George (a one year rental mind you) or Jimmy Butler. Both of those teams ended up taking back less than they could have gotten if they had been reasonable with Boston and not demanded everything or no deal. JMO.
Anything the Celtics do for the next few years is irrelevant unless Lebron goes west, which is getting less and likely with each superstar moving east to west. Whenever Lebron slows down (if that ever happens) than it will be interesting to see if the Celtics take the throne with all their assets, if the Bucks take over with Giannis (will be a MVP someday) or if Philly takes over with all there young blue-chippers.
Not this coming season, but both the Bucks and Sixers are looming in the East (Bucks obviously sooner than the Sixers). The Wizards too if they can turn Otto Porter into a superstar player, or superstar acquisition
Would a trade of someone like Marc Gasol or Anthony Davis to Boston to go along with the core already in place change that in your view? I actually think Boston getting Hayward closes the gap a good deal. He is a legit threat every night. Boston had one legit offensive threat every night last year and Cleveland took full advantage of that for sure.
I just do not see top a 20 player in Otto Porter. Beal and Wall are a problem for everyone though. That is a good team IMO. I dislike them for obvious reasons but have nothing but respect for them.
The C's are closing the gap and they have a boat-load of assets. The Nets #1 pick, unprotected mind you, is going to be very valuable. Can you imagine if they drafted Michael Porter? Quite a few analysts are calling him the best high school prospect since Durant. They might not win the lottery, but they'll still get a very, very good player. Maybe Luka Doncic, DeAndre Ayton, or Mo Bamba.