Janowski transferring (basketball)

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Good thing we redshirted and developed him for another program. On a team lacking shooters I have a hard time believing he couldn’t have helped given his offers out of HS.
 

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Good thing we redshirted and developed him for another program. On a team lacking shooters I have a hard time believing he couldn’t have helped given his offers out of HS.
Hey we have Cale Jacobson announcing he will return no worries 😉
 

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It’s idiotic that we didn’t play Nick this winter. I watched him play all through high school. Kid can hoop. Did it on the EYBL Nike circuit against the best. He was physically ready to play and can put the ball in the hoop. Very strong kid.

Disappointing but not at all surprising. Coach Hoiberg messed this one up.
 
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We haven’t developed scholarship kids out of high school well at all
Well, if they were developing, they haven't stuck around long enough to show it. I think the only HS kids Fred has retained are walkons and one and done Bryce Mcgowens. He needs to take a hard look at that component of his roster management because whatever he is doing isn't working and those scholarships are going down a black hole.
 
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This is why you simply DO NOT recruit any high school players in today's game. The portal is the new way to recruit. Unfortunately most high schoolers need to go to the summit League or MAC and prove themselves. It's not worth the risk!
 

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Well, if they were developing, they haven't stuck around long enough to show it. I think the only HS kids Fred has retained are walkons and one and done Bryce Mcgowens. He needs to take a hard look at that component of his roster management because whatever he is doing isn't working and those scholarships are going down a black hole.
I think he just needs to get them in some games. I get redshirting, but in this day all you are making is a ready to play freshman for another team.
 

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I think he just needs to get them in some games. I get redshirting, but in this day all you are making is a ready to play freshman for another team.
And whether true or not, the optics look terrible from the outside. It’s like the golden rule of travel sports: never sign up for a team where your child plays the same position as the head coaches’ kid. Are you telling me that Sam is really that much better than a 6’4” SG with offers from ISU/Wisconsin/Marquette out of HS???
 

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What is the point of redshirting in the age of the transfer portal? It is almost unheard of for a player to stay 4-5 years at one school anymore anyway.
 

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And whether true or not, the optics look terrible from the outside. It’s like the golden rule of travel sports: never sign up for a team where your child plays the same position as the head coaches’ kid. Are you telling me that Sam is really that much better than a 6’4” SG with offers from ISU/Wisconsin/Marquette out of HS???
Are you implying that Sam didn't have a similar offer sheet?

HATER!!!
 

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And whether true or not, the optics look terrible from the outside. It’s like the golden rule of travel sports: never sign up for a team where your child plays the same position as the head coaches’ kid. Are you telling me that Sam is really that much better than a 6’4” SG with offers from ISU/Wisconsin/Marquette out of HS???

He's not playing against high schoolers anymore. Griffiths was a top 50 recruit and he's gone too where are the tears over him?

The staff had plenty of time to decide whether he was worth keeping and we got the answer.
 

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He's not playing against high schoolers anymore. Griffiths was a top 50 recruit and he's gone too where are the tears over him?

The staff had plenty of time to decide whether he was worth keeping and we got the answer.
Griffith’s has a much higher ceiling than SH/CJ, and you don’t think FH is biased in his assessment? There is no way he isn’t. It’s one thing if the team flourished with Sam getting so many minutes. Reminder: we tanked and couldn’t even make the BIG tournament. The SH experiment failed miserably. It’s not 1980 anymore. Husker fans need to stop the love affairs with walk ons. The FB and BB programs will never get out of the dumpster until the lineups are filled with P4 scholarship worthy players.
 

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He's not playing against high schoolers anymore. Griffiths was a top 50 recruit and he's gone too where are the tears over him?

The staff had plenty of time to decide whether he was worth keeping and we got the answer.
You'd think with all the struggles down the stretch, Fred would have tried playing someone else to create a spark. Really this has just been Fred's MO since being here. I know people like only playing so many players but tired legs are another reason guys can't hit shots down the stretch.
Fred has some good qualities as a coach but roster/player management isn't one of them imo.
 

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I don't know anything about Janowski and other than high school stats and offers, neither does probably 99.9% of anyone else on here.

Red shirt or not to redshirt is a good discussion. A kid can change their mind at anytime but I would assume there was a conversation between Janowski and staff about it. He might have bamboozled the staff to preserve his eligibility. What a waste on our part and heck of a gift to Janowski and his future school.

I'm glad Sam was playing as well as jacobson because they were playing their butt's off as well as the other 3 on the court in the last half of the 2nd half of the crown 👑. That team play like that consistently and they would have went deep into the ncaa tournament
 

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Griffith’s has a much higher ceiling than SH/CJ, and you don’t think FH is biased in his assessment? There is no way he isn’t. It’s one thing if the team flourished with Sam getting so many minutes. Reminder: we tanked and couldn’t even make the BIG tournament. The SH experiment failed miserably. It’s not 1980 anymore. Husker fans need to stop the love affairs with walk ons. The FB and BB programs will never get out of the dumpster until the lineups are filled with P4 scholarship worthy players.

We tanked down the stretch because we played in the toughest league with the best coaching and biased officiating. It really does not need to be covered again, but we lost multiple one possession games swayed by poor officiating.

People acting like true freshman Nick Jankowski was going to be the difference in the season are out of their minds.
 

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We tanked down the stretch because we played in the toughest league with the best coaching and biased officiating. It really does not need to be covered again, but we lost multiple one possession games swayed by poor officiating.

People acting like true freshman Nick Jankowski was going to be the difference in the season are out of their minds.
Is there a single metric out there to support the statement that the Big Ten is the “toughest league”?
 

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We tanked down the stretch because we played in the toughest league with the best coaching and biased officiating. It really does not need to be covered again, but we lost multiple one possession games swayed by poor officiating.

People acting like true freshman Nick Jankowski was going to be the difference in the season are out of their minds.
And many of those games don’t come down to 1possession if it didn’t take an act of congress for anyone on our team to hit a 3 besides Brice and sometimes CE.
 

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I don't see a Williams or a Gary on the list of transfers. I think we should be concerned. Huskers didn't make the BIG tournament with them, so not sure how they are without them. Does Meah have any eligibility left. If he does, I hope he finds another school.
 

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Nebraska won the CROWN but wasn’t able to make the BiG Team ToUrNaMeNt. Rough conference
And don't forget, Nebraska tanked down the stretch because it was facing "the best coaching."

Even though two of the last three coaches NU faced in Big Ten play were fired shortly thereafter.
 

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We tanked down the stretch because we played in the toughest league with the best coaching and biased officiating. It really does not need to be covered again, but we lost multiple one possession games swayed by poor officiating.

People acting like true freshman Nick Jankowski was going to be the difference in the season are out of their minds.
The biggest factor in all of our losing streaks this season was simply an inability to shoot the 3 at a competitive percentage. Janowski is a shooter, and freshman are difference-makers at every top college program in the country. It was stupid to not play him. Unless Janowski said he didn't want to play, there's zero reason to not give him minutes.
 

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The biggest factor in all of our losing streaks this season was simply an inability to shoot the 3 at a competitive percentage. Janowski is a shooter, and freshman are difference-makers at every top college program in the country. It was stupid to not play him. Unless Janowski said he didn't want to play, there's zero reason to not give him minutes.
I thought that every time Worster or Ulis bricked a three. Neither were facilitators so we wouldn’t be missing that if Janowski played. I did hear a rumor though that he was just plain awful. He couldn’t even dunk the ball. Oh, wait! Never mind!😎
 

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The biggest factor in all of our losing streaks this season was simply an inability to shoot the 3 at a competitive percentage. Janowski is a shooter, and freshman are difference-makers at every top college program in the country. It was stupid to not play him. Unless Janowski said he didn't want to play, there's zero reason to not give him minutes.

I am wondering more why Cale Jacobsen didn't play at all during that last 5 game stretch of the season where we lost every game. Seems like he could have helped us win at least one or two of those close games we needed to get into the Big Dance.
 

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I thought that every time Worster or Ulis bricked a three. Neither were facilitators so we wouldn’t be missing that if Janowski played. I did hear a rumor though that he was just plain awful. He couldn’t even dunk the ball. Oh, wait! Never mind!😎
I freely admit the Janowski stuff is pure conjecture. He probably just wasn't good enough. All I know is that the 3 games I went to he did nothing but swish 3 after 3 in warmups. That really means nothing but it sure had me salivating. Probably the biggest factor is that it's really hard as a coach to throw guys out there to "see what they've got" when you're trying to win every game in a super-competitive league. Do you stay with the "meh" veterans or take a risk? Not too many risk takers at that level.
 

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This is why you simply DO NOT recruit any high school players in today's game. The portal is the new way to recruit. Unfortunately most high schoolers need to go to the summit League or MAC and prove themselves. It's not worth the risk!

Well, with one caveat. If you have the clout and/or ability to recruit and land NBA talent out of high school, you do it. Those kids are ready to play and from go.

Otherwise… if you’re Fred (and many other coaches) and you can’t consistently recruit NBA caliber players out of HS. The portal is where you need to focus your efforts.
 

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Probably the biggest factor is that it's really hard as a coach to throw guys out there to "see what they've got" when you're trying to win every game in a super-competitive league. Do you stay with the "meh" veterans or take a risk? Not too many risk takers at that level.
You would think it would be a bit easier for a coach who has a .311 conference winning percentage over a six-year period, and yet his seat is about as hot as the other side of the pillow.
 

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You would think it would be a bit easier for a coach who has a .311 conference winning percentage over a six-year period, and yet his seat is about as hot as the other side of the pillow.
True. Pretty frustrating when you can see that Jacobsen's opportunity only came because they were playing in a meaningless tournament. Oh wait - he's actually good! Too bad we didn't give him a real opportunity two months ago.
 

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You would think it would be a bit easier for a coach who has a .311 conference winning percentage over a six-year period, and yet his seat is about as hot as the other side of the pillow.
The buyout is the reason that the fire Fred talk is not active at the moment.And although the ending of the regular season was extremely disappointing and the crown tournament is what it is. Name the last BB coach at Nebraska to win 20 games back to back and back to back post season appearances?
 

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This is why you simply DO NOT recruit any high school players in today's game. The portal is the new way to recruit. Unfortunately most high schoolers need to go to the summit League or MAC and prove themselves. It's not worth the risk!
While I agree...I do think you still "recruit" them just to start building that relationship so you can snag them later on.

But as far as offering actual scholarships...nope. Only to top 50 type guys, maybe even just top 30.

Getting a 22 year old that has played 3-4 seasons, has been lifting, practicing, knows about college practice, classes, game plans and so on. That is the way to go.
 

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While I agree...I do think you still "recruit" them just to start building that relationship so you can snag them later on.

But as far as offering actual scholarships...nope. Only to top 50 type guys, maybe even just top 30.

Getting a 22 year old that has played 3-4 seasons, has been lifting, practicing, knows about college practice, classes, game plans and so on. That is the way to go.
Yep . take a kid like Baylor Scheierman . If he goes directly to a Creighton or Nebraska out of HS . He likely isn’t in the NBA right now.
 

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The buyout is the reason that the fire Fred talk is not active at the moment.And although the ending of the regular season was extremely disappointing and the crown tournament is what it is. Name the last BB coach at Nebraska to win 20 games back to back and back to back post season appearances?
Tim Miles had back-to-back postseason appearances in his final two years at Nebraska. He went 22-11 and 19-17 those two seasons, so yes he fell just short of that ever-so-magical 20-win number in one of them.

I'm well aware Fred isn't going anywhere. I just hope the roster improves enough that next season will be a decent one. If he can put four new starters with Mast and his other returning players become bench pieces, it could happen.
 

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I am wondering more why Cale Jacobsen didn't play at all during that last 5 game stretch of the season where we lost every game. Seems like he could have helped us win at least one or two of those close games we needed to get into the Big Dance.
Don't forget about all those complaining when Cale came into a regular season game for a couple of minutes before halftime. I didn't see those people complain later when he was thrown into the Crown tournament games.
 

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Don't forget about all those complaining when Cale came into a regular season game for a couple of minutes before halftime. I didn't see those people complain later when he was thrown into the Crown tournament games.
I don't know if I complained or not, but put me in the group of either play the guy real minutes or don't put him in for 59 seconds at the end of a half. He's not prepared to play in that situation and it's bad coaching. I know at times they just wanted him to foul but it always seemed like he turned it over or didn't rotate right on defense. It wasn't fair to him. It's like giving a baseball player one AB every third game. It's not realistic to judge what they can do in that circumstance.
 

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I don't know if I complained or not, but put me in the group of either play the guy real minutes or don't put him in for 59 seconds at the end of a half. He's not prepared to play in that situation and it's bad coaching. I know at times they just wanted him to foul but it always seemed like he turned it over or didn't rotate right on defense. It wasn't fair to him. It's like giving a baseball player one AB every third game. It's not realistic to judge what they can do in that circumstance.

I mean, unless you’re sending him in to foul someone, which you shouldn’t be doing at the end of the 1st half, then I agree 100%. You either give someone enough minutes to get into the flow of the game, otherwise I don’t see the point of putting someone in for less than a minute of PT. Just doesn’t make any sense.
 

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Don't forget about all those complaining when Cale came into a regular season game for a couple of minutes before halftime. I didn't see those people complain later when he was thrown into the Crown tournament games.
So those big meanie fans were even more wrong than Fred about how many minutes Jacobsen should be playing.

How dare they? No contract extension for them!
 

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Don't forget about all those complaining when Cale came into a regular season game for a couple of minutes before halftime. I didn't see those people complain later when he was thrown into the Crown tournament games.

There is a huge faction of posters here that just complain about everything. They are usually wrong about everything as well.

We call the major complainer "The Preacher." And a preacher has to have his choir so they will be in these threads singing right along with him.

Now the trendy thing to preach about is true freshman Nick Jankowski not playing. We won a championship without him.

People will complain about NICK JANKOWSKI not getting minutes while a top 50 recruit with B1G minutes coming into the season also rode the bench. I'm guessing Griffiths is probably a good shooter too so where's the complaining about him?
 

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I freely admit the Janowski stuff is pure conjecture. He probably just wasn't good enough. All I know is that the 3 games I went to he did nothing but swish 3 after 3 in warmups. That really means nothing but it sure had me salivating. Probably the biggest factor is that it's really hard as a coach to throw guys out there to "see what they've got" when you're trying to win every game in a super-competitive league. Do you stay with the "meh" veterans or take a risk? Not too many risk takers at that level.

I'm 50 and I will swish 3 after 3 in warmups too. Rollie Wooster dominated Creighton's guards when he was healthy. It's a shame he got hobbled because he was very solid in his role early in the season.

There is a reason why a lot of successful teams are loaded with 22-25 year olds now. You probably don't want an 18 year old kid on the court unless he is an extreme outlier.
 

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Now the trendy thing to preach about is true freshman Nick Jankowski not playing. We won a championship without him.
Yeah when King Kong says there are some fans who are relentless ***-kissers and get a giant boner over mediocre achievements, this will surely put him in his place.