Jaden Jones?!?
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I want the NIL guy shooting and I want the ball in his hands, not Caleb's.
Geo is at his best when he's fed the ball and shoots in rhythm.
If we had ANYONE with a low dribble handle, that would be great.
I don't think guards with good handles are that tough to find and recruit, even if they aren't good shooters, they can direct an offense.
Caleb and Paul are directing Jones on O. Hilarious statement. Jones actually can put the ball in the hoop when he is passed the ball, which is more than can be said about most players on this team.
Why does Jaden get a quick hook while caleb and paul as experienced players are given pass after pass by Coach
This is 100% spot on and my biggest gripe. Treat everyone consistently. Jones will never learn how to play sitting on the bench and, when he does get run, getting immediately yanked. At least we know he can put the ball in the hoop, which is a much needed quality on this team.
Douby was a servicable defender. He was a scoring machine, so he was a net positive.
So will Jaden if he is given 15-25 minutes a game, like Waters gave Douby. Started slowly his freshman year, Douby was averaging close to 15-20 pts in 30 minutes about the last 10 games or so towards the end of his freshman year, Jaden has that kind of offensive threat ability if he gets in rythym. He has that natural Douby shooting stroke.
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They have earned it. Jaden may need to be molded.
For the record I am not in complete disagreement here…….with you
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We all want Pike to get the most out of his team. He is not a screamer and he respects his players. The stick and carrot he has is PT, especially meaningful minutes.
we don’t want a player that won’t do what he is asked or doesn’t expend enough effort on the defensive end or even take the time to learn plays (if that is applicable).
it is a fair point that others are making bad decisions offensively or some may not be hustling to Rutgers Basketball standards. And yes they aren’t treated the same.
I am not sure if it is OK to say this one is a Junior and has helped program win NCAA tournament games so he gets more rope.
we don’t want a player that won’t do what he is asked or doesn’t expend enough effort on the defensive end or even take the time to learn plays (if that is applicable).
it is a fair point that others are making bad decisions offensively or some may not be hustling to Rutgers Basketball standards. And yes they aren’t treated the same.
I am not sure if it is OK to say this one is a Junior and has helped program win NCAA tournament games so he gets more rope.
If you watch JJ......he very much looks like he is thinking on what to do. The game hasn’t slowed down for him yet .
Coach pike has to find more situations to get him in parts of games that he can feel confortabke and grow ...and some of that is letting him play and growth through the mistakes
He hasn’t taken a bad shot yet ...a sign to me that he is really trying to stay in the system ...and maybe trying TOO hard to stay withibg
Coach pike has to find more situations to get him in parts of games that he can feel confortabke and grow ...and some of that is letting him play and growth through the mistakes
He hasn’t taken a bad shot yet ...a sign to me that he is really trying to stay in the system ...and maybe trying TOO hard to stay withibg
Agree. It seems sometimes like he's trying to remember and follow steps,"now I do this.. now I do this.."
Comfort will come with time, but that also means he needs to get more minutes. Balancing act.
Both Caleb and Paul got minutes as frosh in fact Harper was pretty bad early on
We both know that Pike wants to win. He doesn’t hate Jones. He doesn’t give preferential treatment to Caleb. Pike has his reasons for Jones not playing and I am sure they are legit.
To me it seems crystal clear he is an enormous liability on defense. I am shocked how bad he has been. My guess Pike thinks he should be better defensively and he just isn’t working hard enough. My guess.
He hasn’t just been bad on defense. So far his man has gotten either a free lane to the basket or a wide open perimeter shot on nearly every possession. I’m not sure if it’s lack of effort or he’s just lost about what he’s supposed to do. I’m surprised by how bad it’s been.
I wonder if he just has never been well coached. Maybe his AAU teams were completely unorganized? He looks utterly clueless right now.
@Scarlet Blind Good comparison but Douby’s early teams didn’t win very much. He became a very complete player by his Sr year. Jones will learn and get better and play more as the season goes on. We’re not good enough to just go out and shoot 3’s and win half of our BIG games. Defense is imperative. He will get there.
Douby rarely made efforts on defense. Douby's teams were not void of talent. Obviously he made the offense so much better, but defense matters.
Poor kid looks like he can't enter the transfer portal quick enough.
Are we watching the same guy? Maybe he’s better than Caleb right now but Jones was awful
He made two free throws and then immediately got burned on a back-cut on defense to give them back. Brutal.
I lost my mind when he put him back in 10 minutes too late with 2 mins left in thw game after another McConnell miss. And this was AFTER there was just a timeout where I couldn't believe mconnel went back in. Embarrassed my kids but they are older now and just laugh at me.
Jaden Jones is probably a guy who has started his entire career from 10 years old till he was a HS senior. Maybe, he is having a problem adjusting to his current role. I don't think moving Hyatt to the starting lineup was the right move, just leaves an already short bench even shorter with a putrid shooting Caleb 5-30 in 5 games 0-10 from 3pt range, with 5 freshman, Miller, Jones, Mag, Palmquist, and Reiber. Jaden is probably the most ready to start out of the 5 freshman.
Jones got in at the 13-minute mark for approximately 3 minutes, then he got in with less than 3 minutes left in the game. I don't think he got in the first half he did get burned on the back door. The .point is second half he played 6 to 7 minutes. How bad could he have been.......
my bad ...just watched the first half , Jones did play for about 5 minutes... I don't think his defense was that bad that back door did hurt n I like to see him take it to the basket instead of 3 pointers all the time,
Should he get playing time based on his recruiting rankings. If not, what would be the reason. On November 22, 2021 Jaden Jones is not remotely close to the player you think he is. You want them to play the Jaden Jones you want to see not the Jaden Jones he currently is.
he made two free throws late which is more than what one of our guys did grazing rim if he was lucky or did more than our 5th year senior who ghosted before getting injured
And on the next play he gave up a layup. The kids a project bac. Maybe he will be good some day. He is far from good right now.
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we had fouls on 3 three point attempts...2 by Hyatt and 1 by Reiber...that were far worse
we had our star player give up an open 3 on the last shot
RU cant score, that is a bigger problem than our defense, so Jones shooting was pretty bad..whose wasnt, yet Pike seems to be throwing him in there in impossible type spots, yanked and the force back in with 3 minutes
meanwhile mcconell took and missed on two key possession between 3 and 4 minutes
Stop blaming Pike for everything! Blame the players too!