Jackson Declaring without an agent

Dad2ze

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This will be the dumbest move a kid in college ball has made.
 

IPSYCHOSIS

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Lmfao at reading this entire thread ! ...let's just say (predictable) sums it up...can't wait for the encore reactions when he does decide .:)
 
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Laettner15

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Okay I'll probably get blasted but people need to calm down... he didn't hire an agent and he's testing... if he decides to go then let him go and wish him nothing but the best.. but please remember just a few weeks ago everyone ripped bolden when he was "transferring" and then when he came back everyone loved him.... let it play out.
 

duke0527

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I said it before, but if Frank leaves then my college bball fandom will continue to wane. I mean an undersized freshman back up two guard is going to enter a loaded draft. If guys like him are going to leave you'll never be able to build a real team. Will continue be year to year. Oh well.
 

hart2chesson

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Okay I'll probably get blasted but people need to calm down... he didn't hire an agent and he's testing... if he decides to go then let him go and wish him nothing but the best.. but please remember just a few weeks ago everyone ripped bolden when he was "transferring" and then when he came back everyone loved him.... let it play out.

I am not about to blast you Laett, too much respect for everyone here. I simply think Duval is likely to commit ( great we get our true pg), but the downside is we lose a really good and proven player because he doesnt get to play PG (position hes best suited for in NBA).

OFC
 
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jamsession3

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Let Jackson go especially if he may be a distraction. Grayson will play a lot of pg next year. If we get Duval, great, but if not hopefully another pg and possibly a pg transfer, grad/and or soph that can give up 2 to 3 years.
 

Whutadrag2

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I'm far from perfect but here are a few words we've called this kid in this thread alone.

Dumb
Stupid
Moron
Idiot
Ridiculous

Who doesn't listen to their dad at 18 yo? Some dads(and uncles) just make better decisions than others.
 

DukeDenver

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There's no way he goes pro in the end, unless he wants to go overseas. He may be desperate for the pro life, but he hasn't earned it yet.
 

RanDEVILman

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I didn't see the dad's comments as bad towards Duke. He said something along the lines of "Duke was the right choice and it will be tough to leave, if we went anywhere else he'd be OAD." As in they would be using any other school as a one year stop over, but at Duke he is actually considering returning. Jmo
 

Bsteingbr21

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I know this has already been stated..but if he were to come back, when is the deadline to pull your name out?
 

LH24ND

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As I have said time after time tell me we are involved with someone other than Duval considering the makeup of this roster?
 
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HuffyJB

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I didn't see the dad's comments as bad towards Duke. He said something along the lines of "Duke was the right choice and it will be tough to leave, if we went anywhere else he'd be OAD." As in they would be using any other school as a one year stop over, but at Duke he is actually considering returning. Jmo

That's exactly what he said. He is saying if Frank were anywhere else he would already be gone, but Duke gives you reasons to stay.
 

jamsession3

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That's exactly what he said. He is saying if Frank were anywhere else he would already be gone, but Duke gives you reasons to stay.

I credit that to the Duke coaching staff. Showcasing talent comes with a price, meaning you must be able to showcase your talent undeniably. Frank had to learn and was pulled when he made mistakes that hurt the team.

In other programs, Frank would have been able to do what he wanted. He may come back. I agree, watch the process, but if there outside input that can impact the team leave.
 

topps coach

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First of all imo if Frank comes back I expect him to be a monster next year but I cannot blame him for going to the combine to see what his professional posential is. If he has the chance to become an instant millionaire, I do not see how anyone could blame him for taking it.
 
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sheyduke

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The important thing to remember is that everyone one saw Franks need to improve at pg.
he is a real undersized combo guard but his natural position in the league is at the point.
I think he can work hisself into the second round he's already predicted to go there in the 2018 draft.
Wish him nothing but the best but I do think should Duke land Duval Frank will have an NBA style pg to go against in practice and work on his pg skills against. Hell just have to decide between coming back to college or the dleague
 
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Dukesince90

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If any of you had millions of dollars on the line...would you not take a unique opportunity to learn from potential future bosses what skills they felt you should improve on?

Fans in general have become so entitled in college sports.
I think you would be dumb not to gather all the information you could get.
 

DukeDenver

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Do whatever you feel is best Frank, but make the decision on your own. The advice of people who are most likely to be impartial should be considered most valuable, i.e., take what your dad and your coaches say with a grain of salt... and never listen to an agent!
 

Quavarius

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How about we take a deep breath and stop criticizing the kid and his family BEFORE a final decision is made. I hope our players don't read this board. Some of the same folks said the same about Bolden and he decided to return. Let's let things play out first. Stop criticizing players for making decisions they feel will best fit them and their families.

I was shocked to learn that he's testing the waters as well, but I can't blame him if he feels like this is the BEST option for him and his family.
 

denverexpat

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Do whatever you feel is best Frank, but make the decision on your own. The advice of people who are most likely to be impartial should be considered most valuable, i.e., take what your dad and your coaches say with a grain of salt... and never listen to an agent!

I wonder if his Dad is acting as a pseudo agent in some capacity. It would allow the best of both worlds..no official signing with an agent so could return to Duke and understand what the NBA teams are thinking. Many family members or relatives seem to do this....see the crazy Ball family as an extreme example!

As for Jackson, someone mentioned about the chance to be coached by your employer and make millions...however, if you fail in that honeymoon period you could also find yourself released with no support and wandering around trying to make a living. This happens a lot in the NBA....both scenarios are plausible for Jackson....just hope he takes his time and all the advice into account. Tough decision of an 18 yo to make.
 
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topps coach

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I think you mean back up a PG overseas...no way he is making an NBA roster right now or getting drafted at all
That is why he is going to the combine to get enough information to be able to make an intelligent decision.What ever he decides I only wish the best for him
 

1156jack

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"I don't totally understand the whole going to get feedback from the NBA thing. It makes sense because you are allowed to do this. But coaches as connected and knowledgeable as k and others can certainly tell you what to work on."


I could not disagree more. Playing in the NBA is about more than just talent. It is about relationships too as well as poise under pressure, both of which are enhanced by a player availing himself of the testing opportunity...
 

KellenPatrick

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I said it before, but if Frank leaves then my college bball fandom will continue to wane. I mean an undersized freshman back up two guard is going to enter a loaded draft. If guys like him are going to leave you'll never be able to build a real team. Will continue be year to year. Oh well.

In the 2 mock drafts I checked a little while ago neither even have him mentioned, undrafted.
 

VaBlueDevil33

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That is why he is going to the combine to get enough information to be able to make an intelligent decision.What ever he decides I only wish the best for him

I would think K could be able to tell him he isn't getting drafted and not ready...I think this is more about him and his handler oh I mean his dad lol
 
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hart2chesson

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I would think K could be able to tell him he isn't getting drafted and not ready...I think this is more about him and his handler oh I mean his dad lol

Agreed, as connected as K is to the NBA network he can provide all the necessary "feedback." Another One And Done enters (Duval) and One Is DONE at Duke (Frank), JMO

OFC
 

Duke1783

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Yes, and it's been that way in the power conferences since the 90s. There is still an element of amateurism to it, but it's a money sport. Our coach makes $10 million/year before endorsements.
And K passed on the NBA twice
 

topps coach

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"I don't totally understand the whole going to get feedback from the NBA thing. It makes sense because you are allowed to do this. But coaches as connected and knowledgeable as k and others can certainly tell you what to work on."


I could not disagree more. Playing in the NBA is about more than just talent. It is about relationships too as well as poise under pressure, both of which are enhanced by a player availing himself of the testing opportunity...
K is father figure to these kids and oftentimes kids need to hear the harsh truth from someone other than family