Jackson announcing on Monday

[Rockfly78]

Listen man I understand the whole recruiting class. Cal is still going to be Cal and I’m just done with him. Even if it means sacrificing having the #1 class so be it. Cal has ran his course at UK 5 years ago. I just want to get back to being UK and it being about UK!

It’s about winning. Cal with the class next season is the best option for optimal results in the near future. Like I said, any good Kentucky fan should hope for this. I get being done with Cal, but winning is more important. There’s a way that you can have it both ways and this is the way. Cal is likely gone after next season at the latest. Don’t you want to get some positive results first?

 

[Seth_C]

One of us isn’t repeatedly saginf how much we don’t care. I don’t expect you to see that nuance though. So creepy to quote comments in a thread…

I’d love that. Calipari isn’t capable of fulfilling his end of the bargain. Another year is just delaying. He isn’t winning squat next year.

 

[HeelVol]

It’s about winning. Cal with the class next season is the best option for optimal results in the near future. Like I said, any good Kentucky fan should hope for this. I get being done with Cal, but winning is more important. There’s a way that you can have it both ways and this is the way. Cal is likely gone after next season at the latest. Don’t you want to get some positive results first?

If I may offer this as a rival fan and respectfully...

Do you feel the stellar class of Bradshaw, Edwards, Wagner, Dillingham and Reed (sorry if I miss one)...is truly a championship level team? Is that like generational NBA talent Davis, top level defender and winner in Gilchrist, PG Teague? Who are the veterans like Darius Miller who can provide leadership to that. Who's the Terrence Jones role?

Let's say 2023 class is so good they will indeed get Kentucky to the national championship. Won't that mean Calipari will remain coach and that the fans will come back over to the Calipari side? If UK did win it all, I can't see how Calipari doesn't get a new contract (salary raise), a new practice facility, anything he wants. the fanbase will say, give it to him.

If Calipari does win, why do you think he will be gone regardless?

Looks like the anti-Cal sentiment is quieting down just a bit...big win at Tennessee, good win vs Georgia and even his calling out of Tshiebwe to get into the gym made the big man "angry" and took it out on Georgia with a monster game.

and to all UK fans, winning cures everything. I get that the litmus test is the NCAAT. no more 1st weekend exits which is understandable. But what if Calipari gets UK to the Elite Eight? Does that "buy" another 2023 season or 2, 3, 4 more seasons....?

Great win at Tennessee btw. especially since it was Chris Lofton day.

 

[HeelVol]

I’d love that. Calipari isn’t capable of fulfilling his end of the bargain. Another year is just delaying. He isn’t winning squat next year.

What if during this "delaying" period, Calipari coaches this team to a Final Four. and then the stellar 2023 class comes in. Wouldn't you sign up for that scenario? I mean...it's quite possible. My Tar Heels had no business being a Final Two Team until they did it.

 

[BigBlueManSouthCentralKY]

What if during this "delaying" period, Calipari coaches this team to a Final Four. and then the stellar 2023 class comes in. Wouldn't you sign up for that scenario? I mean...it's quite possible. My Tar Heels had no business being a Final Two Team until they did it.

As long as we win, I don't care who the coach is. Looks like he is finally starting to put the right guys on the floor, so that is a start at least. As long as he does what is best for the team, winning every game and focusing on the championship above everything else. Of course we need results, but if he does those things with the way he recruits it should get better.

 

[Rockfly78]

If I may offer this as a rival fan and respectfully...

Do you feel the stellar class of Bradshaw, Edwards, Wagner, Dillingham and Reed (sorry if I miss one)...is truly a championship level team? Is that like generational NBA talent Davis, top level defender and winner in Gilchrist, PG Teague? Who are the veterans like Darius Miller who can provide leadership to that. Who's the Terrence Jones role?

Let's say 2023 class is so good they will indeed get Kentucky to the national championship. Won't that mean Calipari will remain coach and that the fans will come back over to the Calipari side? If UK did win it all, I can't see how Calipari doesn't get a new contract (salary raise), a new practice facility, anything he wants. the fanbase will say, give it to him.

If Calipari does win, why do you think he will be gone regardless?

Looks like the anti-Cal sentiment is quieting down just a bit...big win at Tennessee, good win vs Georgia and even his calling out of Tshiebwe to get into the gym made the big man "angry" and took it out on Georgia with a monster game.

and to all UK fans, winning cures everything. I get that the litmus test is the NCAAT. no more 1st weekend exits which is understandable. But what if Calipari gets UK to the Elite Eight? Does that "buy" another 2023 season or 2, 3, 4 more seasons....?

Great win at Tennessee btw. especially since it was Chris Lofton day.

I think it is the best case scenario for big success next season. I think it could produce a final 4. or maybe it doesn't I don't know. but it offers a better chance than a rebuild next year. Good question on why I'm assuming Cal splits after next year. Call it a gut feeling I guess, but lots of people share that feeling. It is also the year in which cal's ambassadorship requirement would be satisfied. If he cares about that at all then he would need to get through next season. Then he gets 1 mil per year for life from ky to be an ambassador

 

[HeelVol]

I think it is the best case scenario for big success next season. I think it could produce a final 4. or maybe it doesn't I don't know. but it offers a better chance than a rebuild next year. Good question on why I'm assuming Cal splits after next year. Call it a gut feeling I guess, but lots of people share that feeling. It is also the year in which cal's ambassadorship requirement would be satisfied. If he cares about that at all then he would need to get through next season. Then he gets 1 mil per year for life from ky to be an ambassador

As an outsider, it seems plausible about your gut feeling. Calipari saying 10 years is time for the next job (terribly butchering that quote I know) means he knows he's open to the next job.

He's too loud for NBA bench coaching, so that's out.

Likely he's waiting for Syracuse, Villanova or some other high profile north eastern area job to come open for one last stint, a 5 year stint this time.

I could be wrong but I personally don't think Calipari is all that interested in the ambassador role. There are a lot of fans who the past 2 years have openly hated Cal and unless he wins big this or next year, he will be getting mean looks for an unsatisfied fan base who expected more. I think he just distances himself from UK and doesn't look back, unless its to discuss the successes at UK. He won't be walking around Lexington in retirement phase expecting to get attaboys, pats on the back and fans buying him lunch. He would get that kind of treatment if he resigned after winning a 2nd national championship.

Things could quickly change though if this current team gets on a roll and starts playing like its preseason ranking. (and not lose in the 1st weekend). Losing in the 1st round of the NCAAT would be really bad for him and it's going to get tougher since UK is a bubble team at best right now and if UK does get into the NCAAT it will likely have to play a high quality opponent (not some 15 seed).

again, really good past 2 games. Oscar v Georgia looked like NPOY Oscar.

Lastly, it does look like Calipari is looking to leave after next season. Who is Kentucky recruiting in the 2024 class? UNC has 4 commits already. and Tre Johnson, Nas Cunningham seem professional bound. Historically, recruiting analysts would already be listing Kentucky as the leader for several top recruits but that doesn't seem to be happening (yet).

 

[anon1751545683]

As an outsider, it seems plausible about your gut feeling. Calipari saying 10 years is time for the next job (terribly butchering that quote I know) means he knows he's open to the next job.

He's too loud for NBA bench coaching, so that's out.

Likely he's waiting for Syracuse, Villanova or some other high profile north eastern area job to come open for one last stint, a 5 year stint this time.

I could be wrong but I personally don't think Calipari is all that interested in the ambassador role. There are a lot of fans who the past 2 years have openly hated Cal and unless he wins big this or next year, he will be getting mean looks for an unsatisfied fan base who expected more. I think he just distances himself from UK and doesn't look back, unless its to discuss the successes at UK. He won't be walking around Lexington in retirement phase expecting to get attaboys, pats on the back and fans buying him lunch. He would get that kind of treatment if he resigned after winning a 2nd national championship.

Things could quickly change though if this current team gets on a roll and starts playing like its preseason ranking. (and not lose in the 1st weekend). Losing in the 1st round of the NCAAT would be really bad for him and it's going to get tougher since UK is a bubble team at best right now and if UK does get into the NCAAT it will likely have to play a high quality opponent (not some 15 seed).

again, really good past 2 games. Oscar v Georgia looked like NPOY Oscar.

Lastly, it does look like Calipari is looking to leave after next season. Who is Kentucky recruiting in the 2024 class? UNC has 4 commits already. and Tre Johnson, Nas Cunningham seem professional bound. Historically, recruiting analysts would already be listing Kentucky as the leader for several top recruits but that doesn't seem to be happening (yet).

People say a lot of things. I remember Charles Barkley saying he would retire by age 30. He didn't.

Cal embraces the ambassador role. He loves it. And Cal is never taking a step down from UK to coach a Syracuse or Villanova or any 2nd tier school. If Cal leaves UK it's for the couch or the broadcast booth.

And there's not that much Cal hate out there outside of message boards. And how many is that really, a few hundred people?

I can't see Cal going anywhere. I think he will coach here about 5 more years and then hang it up.

 

[HeelVol]

People say a lot of things. I remember Charles Barkley saying he would retire by age 30. He didn't.

Cal embraces the ambassador role. He loves it. And Cal is never taking a step down from UK to coach a Syracuse or Villanova or any 2nd tier school. If Cal leaves UK it's for the couch or the broadcast booth.

And there's not that much Cal hate out there outside of message boards. And how many is that really, a few hundred people?

I can't see Cal going anywhere. I think he will coach here about 5 more years and then hang it up.

You have a better feel for things than I.