I've purposefully stayed away from COVID ...

[L4Dawg]

stuff here for a while, as much as possible. I have no desire to bring up the past. Here is where I see us at the moment. It's about to get bad, really bad. That was absolutely expected. What was unexpected was a vaccine that looks to be 90% effective. I know it's getting old, and we are all, me included, are sick of this stuff. The vaccine news , though, makes it even more imperative that we hang on. By doing so, given the vaccine news, we are literally saving lives. If you don't have to go out in public, don't. If you do, wear a mask. The recent news from the CDC was several months behind the actual data. There is nothing political about this. There never has been as far as the science is concerned. Come on folks, we are close, don't let vulnerable people die that don't have to at this stage.

 

[RockKickinSandPoundinSOB]

stuff here for a while, as much as possible. I have no desire to bring up the past. Here is where I see us at the moment. It's about to get bad, really bad. That was absolutely expected. What was unexpected was a vaccine that looks to be 90% effective. I know it's getting old, and we are all, me included, are sick of this stuff. The vaccine news , though, makes it even more imperative that we hang on. By doing so, given the vaccine news, we are literally saving lives. If you don't have to go out in public, don't. If you do, wear a mask. The recent news from the CDC was several months behind the actual data. There is nothing political about this. There never has been as far as the science is concerned. Come on folks, we are close, don't let vulnerable people die that don't have to at this stage.

Lol bad as in how?

 

[L4Dawg]

Lol bad as in how?

Use your own definition. It will suffice, eventually.

 

[Leeshouldveflanked]

stuff here for a while, as much as possible. I have no desire to bring up the past. Here is where I see us at the moment. It's about to get bad, really bad. That was absolutely expected. What was unexpected was a vaccine that looks to be 90% effective. I know it's getting old, and we are all, me included, are sick of this stuff. The vaccine news , though, makes it even more imperative that we hang on. By doing so, given the vaccine news, we are literally saving lives. If you don't have to go out in public, don't. If you do, wear a mask. The recent news from the CDC was several months behind the actual data. There is nothing political about this. There never has been as far as the science is concerned. Come on folks, we are close, don't let vulnerable people die that don't have to at this stage.

Biden’s Covid guy Ezekiel Emmanuel said he is giving the Vaccine to other countries first...

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

You’re an idiot if you can’t see what’s going on.

 

[jethreauxdawg]

How was that high school football game?

If you don't have to go out in public, don't..

I love your hypocrisy.

 

[Mobile Bay]

By all means, we should cower in fear over a disease that is 99+% survivable.**

Can we collapse our economy some more please?**

 

[LawDawg97]

as much as possible.

No you haven’t, more is possible. Give it a try.

By the way, those of us that read the news can understand it. We’re being careful. You’ve been to more football games than I have.

 

[TrueMaroonGrind]

Lol bad as in how?

https://www.npr.org/sections/health...surging-where-are-hospitals-reaching-capacity

 

[dorndawg]

Biden’s Covid guy Ezekiel Emmanuel said he is giving the Vaccine to other countries first...

I'm afraid you are mistaken on this.

The model allows the country that produces the vaccine to hold onto enough of a supply to reach a threshold for herd immunity ("Rt below 1"). Beyond that, the model supports distributing the vaccine internationally, which means giving away or selling doses of the vaccine before it's available to every citizen in that country, Emanuel explained to Scientific American.

“Reasonable national partiality does not permit retaining more vaccine than the amount needed to keep the rate of transmission (Rt) below 1, when that vaccine could instead mitigate substantial COVID-19–related harms in other countries that have been unable to keep Rt below 1 through ongoing public-health efforts," the Science magazine article titled "An ethical framework for global vaccine allocation" argues.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-coronavirus-adviser-emanuel-vaccine-distribution

 

[Crazy Cotton]

As in there won't be a hospital bed to stash your dumbass if you get sick
https://www.sunherald.com/news/coronavirus/article247144811.html

 

[Maroonthirteen]

I love your hypocrisy.

Absolutely ridiculous the national media is telling the country to avoid Thanksgiving gatherings but sports with fans continues.

 

[xxxWalkTheDawg]

As in there won't be a hospital bed to stash your dumbass if you get sick
https://www.sunherald.com/news/coronavirus/article247144811.html

If you really knew how lax internal “hush hush” hospital protocol is at least one MS hospital is you would choke on that statement. There are nurses who test positive with it and are basically being told to come back as soon as they feel better. Not 14 days. As soon as they feel better and the fever breaks.

My wife brought it home from said hospital. She had mild symptoms and I had basically none. Both positive for the virus. Antibody test confirmed. Now I go out hoping for some exposure to keep them up.

 

[L4Dawg]

I love your hypocrisy.

With what I do at them I was rarely within 20 yards of anyone else. When I was I was masked.

 

[MrKotter]

Absolutely ridiculous the national media is telling the country to avoid Thanksgiving gatherings

FIFY

 

[xxxWalkTheDawg]

There is nothing political about this. There never has been as far as the science is concerned.

Nothing? The first rule of persuasion is to not tell someone some BS you both know is false.

Notice the concern over “super spreader” events has vanished concerning large political support gatherings since last Tuesday?

 

[L4Dawg]

By all means, we should cower in fear over a disease that is 99+% survivable.**

Can we collapse our economy some more please?**

If you live in much of Mississippi don't have a heart attack right now. The Jackson area as of yesterday had no ICU beds left.

 

[L4Dawg]

Nothing? The first rule of persuasion is to not tell someone some BS you both know is false.

Notice the concern over “super spreader” events has vanished concerning large political support gatherings since last Tuesday?

No, I haven't noticed. The CDC said that anyone out celebrating Trumps demise needs to isolate and be tested.

 

[L4Dawg]

If you really knew how lax internal “hush hush” hospital protocol is at least one MS hospital is you would choke on that statement. There are nurses who test positive with it and are basically being told to come back as soon as they feel better. Not 14 days. As soon as they feel better and the fever breaks.

My wife brought it home from said hospital. She had mild symptoms and I had basically none. Both positive for the virus. Antibody test confirmed. Now I go out hoping for some exposure to keep them up.

You do know that 24 hrs after your fever goes away is the standard for everyone that has it right? 14 days is the time you have to isolate after you have been exposed. After you get it that's out the window. In some states providers that are stillsick are being drafted into working COVID wards. They are running out of nurses especially.

 

[L4Dawg]

I'm afraid you are mistaken on this.
The model allows the country that produces the vaccine to hold onto enough of a supply to reach a threshold for herd immunity ("Rt below 1"). Beyond that, the model supports distributing the vaccine internationally, which means giving away or selling doses of the vaccine before it's available to every citizen in that country, Emanuel explained to Scientific American.

“Reasonable national partiality does not permit retaining more vaccine than the amount needed to keep the rate of transmission (Rt) below 1, when that vaccine could instead mitigate substantial COVID-19–related harms in other countries that have been unable to keep Rt below 1 through ongoing public-health efforts," the Science magazine article titled "An ethical framework for global vaccine allocation" argues.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-coronavirus-adviser-emanuel-vaccine-distribution

This is what he actually said. If the Rt is below one it's going away. He did not say we should give it to other countries first.

 

[L4Dawg]

Absolutely ridiculous the national media is telling the country to avoid Thanksgiving gatherings but sports with fans continues.

Not really. Small indoor gatherings are at very high risk for transmission. Outdoors, especially with some space around you is pretty safe. What matters is space, time, and ventilation.

 

[xxxWalkTheDawg]

No, I haven't noticed. The CDC said that anyone out celebrating Trumps demise needs to isolate and be tested.

Ooooooooooooohh. the CDC put out a statement. Oh well. Geez. Man. Checkmate on that one.

 

[xxxWalkTheDawg]

You do know that 24 hrs after your fever goes away is the standard for everyone that has it right? 14 days is the time you have to isolate after you have been exposed. After you get it that's out the window. In some states providers that are stillsick are being drafted into working COVID wards. They are running out of nurses especially.

That’s not what Harvard says. Possible 10 days after symptoms resolve.

 

[L4Dawg]

That’s not what Harvard says. Possible 10 days after symptoms resolve.

That's not what is being done anywhere.

 

[vandaldawg]

The fact that this was ever politicized in the first place is not only blindingly stupid and unnecessary, but deadly. How there is any objection to this post, I'll never understand.

 

[L4Dawg]

Just wear a dang mask if you are out. The hospital stuff is getting very tight. We are probably about to have to stop non-emergency medical procedure again. I suspect they are already quietly curtailed in the Jackson area by the individual hospitals.

 

[SheltonChoked]

Not really. Small indoor gatherings are at very high risk for transmission. Outdoors, especially with some space around you is pretty safe. What matters is space, time, and ventilation.

Read this on what the science says on COVID transmission indoors, and what you can do if you HAVE to have multiple families at your house.
https://english.elpais.com/society/...he-coronavirus-is-spread-through-the-air.html

tl:dr Open all the windows and doors, and everyone should wear masks.

 

[L4Dawg]

Read this on what the science says on COVID transmission indoors, and what you can do if you HAVE to have multiple families at your house.
https://english.elpais.com/society/...he-coronavirus-is-spread-through-the-air.html

tl:dr Open all the windows and doors, and everyone should wear masks.

Yep. Hopefully this good weather lasts and Thanksgiving can be done outdoors.

 

[thatsbaseball]

As of yesterday there were 792 ICU beds in use in Ms and 588 of those were for non-covid patients.....sounds like a lot of people have already had heart attacks.

 

[Russ Wheeler]

L4, let me sum up the problem for you. I would venture to guess that 80% of this board understands perfectly how to protect themselves and others. We don't need a lecture from you or anyone else. The issue is that you don't blame who is TRULY spreading this thing, either due to virtue signaling or ignorance or else. It is young people and poors - PERIOD. They don't give a damn if you haven't noticed. The other outbreaks are accidental.

Vulnerable people need to stay home, also. You people talking about lockdowns are ABSOLUTELY GOING to be shredded by the public. It's not a real option anymore.

That said, I deal in reality, not idealism. I recognize the people in power will probably lock us down. Nothing I can do about that, but no one wants to hear the ******** from people like you.

Get it?

 

[xxxWalkTheDawg]

That's not what is being done anywhere.

So you mean it isn’t being taken as seriously as it apparently should be by ANYONE then?



What is your point again?

 

[L4Dawg]

L4, let me sum up the problem for you. I would venture to guess that 80% of this board understands perfectly how to protect themselves and others. We don't need a lecture from you or anyone else. The issue is that you don't blame who is TRULY spreading this thing, either due to virtue signaling or ignorance or else. It is young people and poors - PERIOD. They don't give a damn if you haven't noticed. The other outbreaks are accidental.

Vulnerable people need to stay home, also. You people talking about lockdowns are ABSOLUTELY GOING to be shredded by the public. It's not a real option anymore.

That said, I deal in reality, not idealism. I recognize the people in power will probably lock us down. Nothing I can do about that, but no one wants to hear the ******** from people like you.

Get it?

I never mentioned a lockdown at all. You are arguing with yourself there. I don't think you can blame any one group for spreading it. I know people literally all over the spectrum that have had it.

 

[L4Dawg]

So you mean it isn’t being taken as seriously as it apparently should be by ANYONE then?



What is your point again?

Whatever. I just pointed out that what you posted about that hospital is standard procedure.

 

[L4Dawg]

As of yesterday there were 792 ICU beds in use in Ms and 588 of those were for non-covid patients.....sounds like a lot of people have already had heart attacks.

Exactly. That's why it's not just COVID patients that will be affected. ICU space is generally pretty tight.

 

[GloryDawg]

Start buying toilet paper and paper towels. Get ahead of the game.

 

[xxxWalkTheDawg]

Whatever. I just pointed out that what you posted about that hospital is standard procedure.

is is right? According to Harvard Medical? The science?

So hospital standard procedure is apparently wrong.... hospitals where patients who are sick come and go all day.... putting people with co-morbidities at risk... and the crusade is here on these boards?

 

[FreeDawg]

As of yesterday there were 792 ICU beds in use in Ms and 588 of those were for non-covid patients.....sounds like a lot of people have already had heart attacks.

Dont tell Dobbs. He’ll tell you they are out and have a mountain of body bags on Woodrow Wilson. Funny thing too is you only see administrators of UMC all over the news. I have yet to see a St D administrator saying we’re all going to die. I guess when you operate on the tax payer dime you gotta dance when boss man says dance.

 

[LawDawg97]

Yep. A big reason ICUs have patients regularly

As of yesterday there were 792 ICU beds in use in Ms and 588 of those were for non-covid patients.....sounds like a lot of people have already had heart attacks.

is because according to the CDC smoking kills half a million people a year (10 percent of those are from second hand smoke). But we keep cranking those things out.

 

[patdog]

Agree. And that's on both parties. As for me and my family, no mandates needed. Thanksgiving isn't really happening. Parents 80+, dad not in great health, just doesn't seem like a good idea to bring in people from 6 different cities who are around different groups of people into one house with them for an extended period of time.

 

[Russ Wheeler]

I never mentioned a lockdown at all. You are arguing with yourself there. I don't think you can blame any one group for spreading it. I know people literally all over the spectrum that have had it.

Well yeah all kinds of people can get it, but the responsible middle age people (probably 80% on this board) aren't spreading it after they get, due to being responsible adults.

How do you not get this simple concept? That is why people don't listen to you. You can't even understand the basics. You think we all are idiots. We're apparently ahead of you.