It's Time - The Schiano Poll

[G- RUnit]

If i had to pick between Ash or schiano I'd take schiano. that being said he's not coming here he's moved on and we should also. Give me Charlie Strong who had some success at Louisville

And killed Texas and was nothing without Teddy. God no.

 

[bitnez]

I’m in the Schiano camp (and was back when ash was hired) but I’ll throw out another name — Butch Jones. He been a HC, Won everywhere he went including TN, and can recruit NJ. He was making $4M per year at TN

 

[Wolv RU]

And killed Texas and was nothing without Teddy. God no.

Strong seems to be doing well at USF so far. Texas' success this year is at least partly attributed to Strong as well. On the other side of the coin, he is 58.

 

[Wolv RU]

I’m in the Schiano camp (and was back when ash was hired) but I’ll throw out another name — Butch Jones. He been a HC, Won everywhere he went including TN, and can recruit NJ. He was making $4M per year at TN

Jones could at least possibly be had cheaply. He is getting paid by Tennessee until the end of the 2021 season.

 

[RRRRUUUU]

 

[GoodOl'Rutgers]

Either that joke fell flat or many have lost their sense of humor.

Ego tells me it's the later.

it was funny.. its not you

 

[IL Lusciato]

I'm one of those people who didn't want Schiano back. While I admired the job he did building the program, I also thought that after 2006 he couldn't get past his plateau of 7 regular season wins built on a weak OOC schedule and weak conference opponents.

While I admired the building job Schiano did, I thought Rutgers needed someone to get us to the next level. Unfortunately, today Rutgers doesn't need someone to get us to the next level. We need someone to repeat the building job Schiano did. And obviously Schiano has shown the ability to do it.

But I'm still concerned that if we bring back Schiano, and he replicates the building job but is still unable to get us to the next level, are we then stuck with him.

I'll take that problem.

 

[BlockR]

I'll take that problem.

me too ..plus 1000XX

 

[graystork]

Pretty consistent at 70% for Schiano. Never seen the board this united. Sample size right now is 245. Not a scientific poll, but I would submit that this shows substantial support for Schiano among ardent Rutgers football fans. So admin. if you're worried about support among the fanbase for bringing Greg back, this is something to think about. I wonder how many posters/readers on this board are season ticket holders.

Cue the stat wonks now to argue that this poll is meaningless.

 

[RU05]

Why would he want to return? He was giving the opportunity but declined the position. He is comfortable at OSU .He doesn't want to rebuild a program again.

He wanted the Tennessee job.

I definitely think he wants to be a head coach again, and that Tenn experience may say to him that he likely won't get a job with a traditional power house.

 

[50 yd line RR]

I've been very outspoken in the past about not bringing Schiano back, but right now, we could use him. We aren't bringing him back to compete with Ohio State and Michigan. We're bringing him back so that we can beat the Kansas and the Buffalos. We may never be fully competitive against the super elite programs in our division, but we have to at least be able to beat the teams that we're supposed to beat. Less than that from a B1G program in a football talent-rich state like New Jersey is not acceptable. We have to stop the bleeding and return to respectability. Schiano is the most surefire choice we have for that.

It is funny that you say that, but the biggest reason I liked Schiano was he wasn't afraid to go after the" big boys". From day one he would say " we're here to win championships"
You have to love that, as a struggling program you need that.Thats something President Barchi dosent get. When he makes a comment like "we'll never compete with OSU." Maybe we won't, but what you say is we're doing everything we can to compete with OSU.
I am not voting in this pole, not because I wouldn't take Schiano back in a heart beat.
I didn't vote because I will wait til the end of the season . One factor coaches look at when taking a job is did the guy before me get s fair shake? We need to give Chri Ash his due. Dosent look good but he deserves it.
I don't know what's going on behind the scenes but I am sure Pat Hobbs has a handle on it.

 

[FrankZ_RU93]

Pretty consistent at 70% for Schiano. Never seen the board this united. Sample size right now is 245. Not a scientific poll, but I would submit that this shows substantial support for Schiano among ardent Rutgers football fans. So admin. if you're worried about support among the fanbase for bringing Greg back, this is something to think about. I wonder how many posters/readers on this board are season ticket holders.

Cue the stat wonks now to argue that this poll is meaningless.

Chop chop!

 

[koleszar]

My group of 10 is down to 6 max without a coaching change. So there’s $1500 they can put towards the buyout.

9 to 2 on this front. So bring back Schiano. that's another $4200. Sh*t this move would pay itself off fast. Too bad the Administration doesn't see it this way.

 

[NotInRHouse_anon]

No doubt GS brings the team juice and respectability.

However, just to play devil's advocate, would we be OK if results for OSU/UM/PSU were similar to VILLE/PITT/WVU back in the day..?

Yes, his recruiting would go up, but the caliber of opponent should also be taken into consideration.

[Edit]: I see Schiano's effect as similar to Jim Harbaugh's on Michigan.

Schiano won 5 of the last 7 games against Pitt...if we win 5 of 7 games against the Cult this board will demand he have a lifetime contract lol

 

[graystork]

Schiano won 5 of the last 7 games against Pitt...if we win 5 of 7 games against the Cult this board will demand he have a lifetime contract lol

This. I'd take knocking off #2 OSU in front of a nationwide audience on a Thursday night as well.

 

[NotInRHouse_anon]

Pretty impressive- have never seen so many RU fans in agreement on any topic.

 

[miketd1]

United in misery.

 

[zap3430]

First of all I highly doubt Schiano would come back to Rutgers. He could pretty much be open to any other P5 school but not because of rutgers struggles but for professional reputation. I don't think he wouldn't come back to the school he chose to leave. Just my opinion.

Second I doubt he would have the success many think he would even if he did come back. This is a different student athlete being recruited than in 2010. Social Media is everything these days and I believe Rutgers could benefit from a coach who is active and witty on Social Media.

I know PSU is hated but just look at the way their coaches and recruits troll Pitt. Recruits literally standing in the endzone of the Pitt facilities with PSU gear on. Josh Gattis trolling Pitt's coaching staff after flipping Kevin Givens the day before signing day, the list goes on. As a result Pitt cannot recruit anyone from Pa with a psu offer, maybe 1 per year but that's never going to win games.

Rutgers desperately needs an influx of excitement and bite. They need a "us against the world" mentality I believe to return to relevance. In today's hyper sensitive society where people are already on edge about Greg Schiano (whether he deserves it or not) it would not be a good PR move for rutgers. Love in my heart, the last 2 HC's have each had scandles where more than 5 players were kicked off the team. To follow that up with a hire of anyone remotely associated with the Sandusky Scandal is just shooting yourself in the foot.

It's also not always brighter. I remember a few years back when the redskins brought back Joe Gibbs as coach the fans thought it was a godsend... he did nothing his second go round... Just my 2 cents

 

[Knight Shift]

Pretty consistent at 70% for Schiano. Never seen the board this united. Sample size right now is 245. Not a scientific poll, but I would submit that this shows substantial support for Schiano among ardent Rutgers football fans. So admin. if you're worried about support among the fanbase for bringing Greg back, this is something to think about. I wonder how many posters/readers on this board are season ticket holders.

Cue the stat wonks now to argue that this poll is meaningless.

Here is some validation for your poll:

 

[koleszar]

Second I doubt he would have the success many think he would even if he did come back. This is a different student athlete being recruited than in 2010. Social Media is everything these days and I believe Rutgers could benefit from a coach who is active and witty on Social Media.

So he doesn't recruit at OSU? Well that's disappointing. What a surprise, another know it all psu fan. And by the way you guys didn't have a problem hiring a coach embroiled in a scandal of his own while at Vandy. That PR move didn't seem to bother the cult coming off the horrific Sandusky tragedy.

 

[graystork]

Here is some validation for your poll:

Almost exactly the same here.

 

[JQRU91]

I think people are too enveloped in the RU bubble and don't see what goes on outside of it.

You think there aren't other coaches out there who could beat the Kansas and Buffalos on the schedule. Everyone thinks we're in this deep dark blackhole of oblivion. I understand the despair but the kind of things we're in now isn't all that uncommon.

Sure, there are other coaches out there that could get the job done. But of the ones we could land, Schiano's probably the one we could depend on most to stabilize the situation. As I mentioned in another thread, my ideal scenario would be for Schiano to come here for about four years, fix the issues, and then he moves on to a more desirable job and RU looks for someone who can take us to another level. But you've got to walk before you run, and right now, it's like we're scraping our knees on pavement.

It is funny that you say that, but the biggest reason I liked Schiano was he wasn't afraid to go after the" big boys". From day one he would say " we're here to win championships"
You have to love that, as a struggling program you need that.Thats something President Barchi dosent get. When he makes a comment like "we'll never compete with OSU." Maybe we won't, but what you say is we're doing everything we can to compete with OSU.

I love going after the big boys, too, but as I said, we've got to be able to walk first.

 

[KingHigh]

This just needs to happen.

 

[BuggsyRU]

Yes I want mediocrity yet again but of course in the B1G will we even be that good with him?

At this point I would kill for mediocrity.

 

[Fishky]

Yes I want mediocrity yet again but of course in the B1G will we even be that good with him?

At this point I would kill for mediocrity.

Average out 43 years of watching this team and that really is all we have been with a good year here and there. But even with Schiano we had up and down years. Look I am not saying the guy didn’t head us in the right direction I just think we need something more than just the same old thing. We need a proven head coach who is winning at all the stops he has been at. Like Schiano said the answer isn’t going backwards but going forward. He was good for that time we need something more.

 

[graystork]

Ok one last bump. I think the answer here is clear.

 

[JMORC2003]

Next question, if GS is head coach, does he keep McNulty as OC? The two had some good times together

 

[graystork]

I think it's a good fit. They need some WR's.

 

[Willow88!]

Yep lets return to a guy who couldn't win the Big Least, couldn't beat West Virginia or Miami, and was by far not a game day coach. Not to mention that no other school will give him a HC job with the " what did he know about the Penn State disaster", not even the school he is currently working for. I will say it again its time to move on and hire a proven HC that isn't Greg Schiano. He couldn't win a lower conference (0 titles) what makes you think he can win in this league?

and your answer is exactly what ?????? let me guess... we need to rebuild 3-4 years... right ? Flood did less damage with all his controversy and went to bowl game....

 

[mildone_rivals]

I would view hiring Schiano back as giving up on the program. Too many people stuck in the past in this thread. Too many people willing to settle.

Is it not possible to hire an actual, proven, winning head coach to RU?

 

[NotInRHouse_anon]

I would view hiring Schiano back as giving up on the program. Too many people stuck in the past in this thread. Too many people willing to settle.

Is it not possible to hire an actual, proven, winning head coach to RU?

Likely not. Only other ones I can think of are Bielema and Charlie Strong and don't know they would come here.

 

[graystork]

I'm not willing to settle. I think Schiano's the best choice. If you can show me any other candidate with NFL, and Big Ten experience, and his record recruiting NJ, I'm all in. And due to the idiots in Tennessee, his market value is depressed to a point where he's actually in play for us. Somebody in another thread said there's a small window on this and I agree. Hell how many teams hired Big Ten DC's or OC's with no head coaching experience at all? Pitt and Maryland come to mind, Pitt did it twice. Schiano's experience isn't going to stay out there for long. I think in another year or so, Schiano will be gone.

 

[Ru-baby]

Keeping McNulty lowers any buyout amount.

 

[mildone_rivals]

Likely not. Only other ones I can think of are Bielema and Charlie Strong and don't know they would come here.

I don't think either of them are what we need. I think we need an even bigger name that's even more of a proven winner.

But I also think that enough money, and presenting the job in the right way, and we could persuade someone pretty good to come.

Maybe.