It's laughable how bad we are at PR.

[DogStuckAtUM.sixpack]

Keenum/Salter look like idiots with the way they called out Bonner. Just provide a normal comment explaining no interviews have taken place, blah, blah, blah. Instead Keenum shreds Bonner, and Salter calls in a statewide radio show mocking him. 17, we shoot ourselves in the foot a lot when it comes to public perception.

And yes, I agree Bonner should have called for comment (and he royally screwed up the Josh Robinson story), but his sources gave him the right info. Keenum could learn from the Ninja.

 

[CochiseCowbell]

Don't care. I live out of state & I know a lot of y'all, including the BSR crew, have respect & love for Bonner, but he ran with the scoop like he worked for TMZ or the Daily Mail. While this may not be on him, per se, & more on his "Sports Editor," he still should've contacted the University. Covering that institution is his only job, for the state's largest newspaper, and he ran with it like he coined the latest hybrid name of a celebrity couple. My opinion is that Keenum let him know, in no uncertain terms, that he crossed a bridge too far & burned it.

 

[engie]

He should have called him and told him that -- instead of making himself look like a hothead/idiot publicly.

 

[57stratdawg]

I have a feeling if you heard who Bonner had talked to, we'd understand.

 

[FQDawg]

We've done a lot right on the PR front...

The last few years but this was a cluster17 in the worst way and it's entirely our fault. First, whoever leaked to Bonner really **** the bed. But the PR response was even worse.

 

[notoriousD_O_G]

I have a feeling if you heard who Bonner had talked to, we'd understand.

Anyone have any insight on this?

 

[DerHntr]

Anyone have any insight on this?

The rumor is Cohen's previous boss spilled the beans

 

[fishwater99]

The rumor is Cohen's previous boss spilled the beans

Damn Cheerleader can't keep his mouth shut. Glad he is gone.

 

[notoriousD_O_G]

Thanks

 

[ababyatemydingo]

I have a feeling if you heard who Bonner had talked to, we'd understand.

I hear deep throat wears loafers

 

[ababyatemydingo]

The rumor is Cohen's previous boss spilled the beans

You heard correctly

 

[dawgphd]

Yup.

 

[Shamoan]

Situation normal: all 17ed up

 

[paindonthurt_]

What do you people not understand abt this? Just bc we hired Cohen doesn't mean Bonner was right.

If you can't see that, you are stupid.

 

[civildawg88]

What the 17 are you talking about? Bonner was right obviously

 

[Csdog]

It's Salter's job to advise Keenum. He blew it.

 

[coach66]

Bonner earned his *** chewing with other incidents that led up to this big one.

Who gives a ****.

 

[Junction John]

I for one give absolutely zero ***** about this manufactured "PR HIT".

Why do we care if (a) the Ole Miss twitter troll posse; or (b) the Clarion Ledger, for F's sake, say we "blew it" by calling out Bonner?

Does anyone still care what the C/L thinks about MSU? Bonner didn't keep a secret because he either was so desperate to scoop a story or doesn't give a **** about MSU, probably both. A F'ing message needed to be sent, Keenum sent it. What, are we trying to be nice now so they will give us equal pub with Ole Miss? Not happening. F them.

Who else even knows this was a story - Barrett Sallee? Again, who the F cares. Absolutely zero impact on Mississippi State University.

I won't even waste thumb power on Rebel douche tweeters.

People who say Keenum owes the C/L an apology are ridiculous.

Rant over.

 

[Xenomorph]

Today I found out I'm stupid.

 

[johnson86-1]

Why do we care if (a) the Ole Miss twitter troll posse; or (b) the Clarion Ledger, for F's sake, say we "blew it" by calling out Bonner?

Does anyone still care what the C/L thinks about MSU? Bonner didn't keep a secret because he either was so desperate to scoop a story or doesn't give a **** about MSU, probably both. A F'ing message needed to be sent, Keenum sent it. What, are we trying to be nice now so they will give us equal pub with Ole Miss? Not happening. F them.

Who else even knows this was a story - Barrett Sallee? Again, who the F cares. Absolutely zero impact on Mississippi State University.

I won't even waste thumb power on Rebel douche tweeters.

People who say Keenum owes the C/L an apology are ridiculous.

Rant over.

There is basically no PR hit. Nobody gives a **** about the Clarion ledger and the MSU beat writer. I doubt anybody knows this is a story outside of hardcore fans who are going to side with MSU anyway, and people particularly interested in the actual processes behind the news who don't have any influence outside their extremely small niche.

If the Clarion Ledger were somewhat competent, I would feel this was a stupid place to take a stand. But the Clarion Ledger is not competent and MSU is free to treat it like the nothing that it is. If they're going to get access, they are going to have to adhere to minimum journalism standards when dealing with MSU. It's not hard.

 

[hatfieldms]

Exactly

....

 

[engie]

There is basically no PR hit. Nobody gives a **** about the Clarion ledger and the MSU beat writer. I doubt anybody knows this is a story outside of hardcore fans who are going to side with MSU anyway, and people particularly interested in the actual processes behind the news who don't have any influence outside their extremely small niche.

Could have convinced me otherwise when national media came flocking to Bonner's back yesterday when the announcement leaked. I distinctly remember comments from 4-5 prominent national guys.

 

[johnson86-1]

Could have convinced me otherwise when national media came flocking to Bonner's back yesterday when the announcement leaked. I distinctly remember comments from 4-5 prominent national guys.

Where did they come to Bonner's back yesterday? I am an information junkie and read way more news that I should, and I didn't see anything. Did they post somethign on twitter or something? Most of these people have very few followers in the grand scheme of things, and even to the extent they have a lot of followers, how many of them do you think care enough to read or remember? What would it take for you to care about a spat between Foley and a beat writer in Florida?

I just don't think this even registers as a blip.

 

[Curby]

17 Mike Bonner. He hit send on his story in Fayetteville last year before the FG attempt for the Hawgs...and had us LOSING. 17ing amateur.

 

[Hoover Dawg]

I agree with you. Who the hell cares.

 

[Moe Cabelle]

Agree - no one gives a **** and I did NOT hear a bunch of prominent national guys come out in full force.

I still don't understand why people can't accept that even though Cohen gets the job, it doesnt mean Bonner was right. Why wouldn't we have admitted it if that was the case... it's silly to think otherwise.

It's obvious we WERE NOT done with the decision or else why the charade? There were many legitimate reasons for our admin to be pissed, as in.. they were likely still interviewing people. What if you hear we almost had such and such, but he bolted when the news that Cohen had already been hired?

In the end, do we have to disqualify a leading candidate just to "prove" the CL wrong? Hell no, we're bigger than that.

Just because Hugh at the CL wants to be a sanctimonious prick about the whole thing doesn't make him right. In fact, if he had a decent bone in his body, he'd be absolutely embarrassed by the hypocrisy of their ability to chase down anything related to MSU, as compared to all the times they are scooped by "nationally prominate guys" on umiss.

I don't get you 17ers that put down our own folks and buy into what Umiss is constantly selling. A simple explanation is that Bonner's announcement was infringing on the process and just because we ended up hire JC, doesn't mean it was absolutely the case at that time. But Bonner's actions made have actually helped it come true. The CL should simply have respected our desire to keep a tight lip until a final decision.

The CL sux and so do some of our fans.

 

[olblue.sixpack]

Why do we care if (a) the Ole Miss twitter troll posse; or (b) the Clarion Ledger, for F's sake, say we "blew it" by calling out Bonner?

Does anyone still care what the C/L thinks about MSU? Bonner didn't keep a secret because he either was so desperate to scoop a story or doesn't give a **** about MSU, probably both. A F'ing message needed to be sent, Keenum sent it. What, are we trying to be nice now so they will give us equal pub with Ole Miss? Not happening. F them.

Who else even knows this was a story - Barrett Sallee? Again, who the F cares. Absolutely zero impact on Mississippi State University.

I won't even waste thumb power on Rebel douche tweeters.

People who say Keenum owes the C/L an apology are ridiculous.

Rant over.

That deal has been out of the news cycle for weeks now. For some reason its much more of a concern to MSU fans than it is to anyone else.

 

[patdog]

That deal has been out of the news cycle for weeks now. For some reason its much more of a concern to MSU fans than it is to anyone else.

Agree. Nobody cares who another school's AD is. I bet most couldn't even name more than half the ADs in the SEC without looking it up. It's a 1-day news story that goes away and is never heard from again.

 

[dawgstudent]

I'm testing myself

Arkansas - can't remember his name but on football playoff committee. Jeff something
Auburn - jay Jacobs
Alabama-no idea
LSU- joe Alleva
Ole miss - bjork
A&M - no idea

South Carolina- tanner
Florida - Stricklin
Kentucky-Barnhart
Tennessee-???
Missouri-???
Georgia-????
Vanderbilt-not sure if they have one

 

[HD6]

Arkansas is Jeff Long. Alabama is Bill Battle. Tennessee is Dave Hart for another year. Vandy does have an AD, but I don't know his name.

 

[patdog]

Ones I knew off the top of my head: Cohen, Stricklin, Bjork, Tanner, Bertman. And I even got one of those wrong because I forgot Bertman retired.

 

[FormerlyHighLifeRebel]

Here ya go.

<blockquote><p>Michael, did you confirm this with Mississippi State? <a href="https://t.co/PyA67Vhdvr">https://t.co/PyA67Vhdvr</a></p>— Chris Low (@ClowESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/ClowESPN/status/794634973223522304">November 4, 2016</a></blockquote>
a

 

[RedSoxDawg]

Could have convinced me otherwise when national media came flocking to Bonner's back yesterday when the announcement leaked. I distinctly remember comments from 4-5 prominent national guys.

Links ?

 

[CochiseCowbell]

Arkansas is Jeff Long. Alabama is Bill Battle. Tennessee is Dave Hart for another year. Vandy does have an AD, but I don't know his name.

I thought Vandy basically disbanded its athletic department, so to speak, a few years ago. My terminology is wrong I'm sure. But something of that nature happened, right?

 

[Junction John]

This is not to give you the big head, but none of the three of you are the typical random fan out there.

You own sixpacks peak... your cousin hosts sports radio... and Patdog is just atypical...

You're all probably 1%'ers when it comes to listing SEC ADs.

 

[Junction John]

Wow, he really got us there.**

 

[bonedaddy401]

There is no PR hit. This is media club drama.

 

[CochiseCowbell]

1%? Are you calling them ELITE fans?*

 

[KurtRambis4]

Is it not possible

that Cohen was not the choice at that point, then was chosen over the candidates, afterwards?