It's going down

[ATIOH]

Hobbs may not last the season. But just so there’s zero confusion, the OP has a long history of posting outlandish bull **** from his super triple top secret insider sources.

Remember when you breathlessly told us Caroo would never see the light of day again? I’d go on, but @Phi_1055 previously laid it out better than I ever could.

Just like you knew everything about the Caroo matter and told us he'd never be back on the field for us. And you knew for sure that SJV wouldn't let Anthony Brown graduate early and enroll at BCU. And on and on. Your lack of knowledge of the facts has never stopped you from playing the role of the condescending expert before and isn't slowing you down this time either.

He either has the worst sources ever or makes random **** up to stroke his ego. If I hadn’t met both of them in real life, I’d swear he was Mr. TV.

 

[FELONIOUSMONK]

Hire Al's Italian girlfriend as AD. The rest I care little about.

 

[whofrewdatmataRU13]

Hire Greg, who gives a *** about the puppets

 

[wisr01]

That poster has no idea what he is talking about.

And Hobbs was involved in the building of the Prudential Center ... LOL. Dude was a brief Chair of a redevelopment committee. They talked about building that years before his brief time as Chair. As for Quinlan, he was in fact the AD until summer of 2010. Never said he wasn't a dead man walking, but he was AD when Willard was hired.

 

[RUevolution36]

Hobbs may not last the season. But just so there’s zero confusion, the OP has a long history of posting outlandish bull **** from his super triple top secret insider sources.

Remember when you breathlessly told us Caroo would never see the light of day again? I’d go on, but @Phi_1055 previously laid it out better than I ever could.




He either has the worst sources ever or makes random **** up to stroke his ego. If I hadn’t met both of them in real life, I’d swear he was Mr. TV.

Where is Mr TV these days?

 

[Ru-baby]

He either has the worst sources ever or makes random **** up to stroke his ego. If I hadn’t met both of them in real life, I’d swear he was Mr. TV.

Thats a funny oost

 

[Proud NJ Sports Fan]

Yawn

 

[wisr01]

That poster has no idea what he is talking about.

That person was you when you said Hobbs hiring wasn't political. @WhiteBus

 

[wheezer]

The "scum" remark is worthy of discussion, but not termination in itself.....as a stand alone thing, a weak issue

More important is/was the handling of the softball coaching
Issue,

 

[devoted2ru]

In a great irony, this all hits the fan, (no pun intended), on Mischief Night/Halloween. -Don't think there's any doubt where RU falls on the "trick or treat" paradigm, since we always seem to be experiencing way too much of the former and not nearly enough of the latter.

To quote the title song of a famous 1980's movie: "I ain't afraid of no ghosts". But the Rutgers Athletics Department?? ...Well, that definitely sends a chill up my spine on occasion.

 

[DHajekRC84]

How do I get your life?

I'll give you my insights and formula for free. Anytime. No book. No lectures. Just examples and thought process. Plus some luck and good timing lol.
I'm nobody special.

Here's 2 up front. Start saving now and be disciplined, sacrifice, and seek VALUE. ( ok, that's 4 lol). Bonus #5. Find a like minded partner. #6. Find pleasure in less. #7. Defer, defer, and defer. With compounding you'll kick a$$ at 57 to 60!.#8. Minimize taxes now and in the future. As best you can predict. #9. Let your employer pay as much as possible. Max contributions, m ax x. Per diems, allowances, etc.
#10 Always run the numbers. Math is your friend. It never lies to you unless you lie to it.

How's that for some late-night bull crap lol?

 

[Colbert17!]

Ok but what about RUSSIA?????

 

[DHajekRC84]

17 days left for me, lol.

Congrats numbers!
Interesting moment in life. Enjoy!

 

[angmo]

This is better than GOT. I'm gonna write a TV series based on this. Call it "The Castratos".

 

[Scarlet Shack]

Let’s get back to reality

1.) I have been saying that having a football coach being hired by a school with an outgoing President is a huge problem ...huge. Especially at a school like Rutgers where is support of major college athletics has waiverd. The next coach has to be concerned by this uncertainty ...and you cannot blame him

2.) Patrick Hobbs job IS going to be massively scrutinized by the next president as the football program...between major lost ticket revenue and support and the buy out expense ..is a major reality and black eye on a solid resume otherwise by Hobbs. A new president just might want his own guy as AD anyways...but the demise of the football program makes that an easier decision should the next president come in

3.) This makes the next hire that Hobbs before the next president is hired critical to get right ...and has to be a slam dunk. Problem is almost any slam dunk hire isn’t coming on board without knowing who the next president is ...and possible the next AD. You can’t blame them

4.) I totally can see Hobbs firing ash in September as a way to give him a chance to save his neck given all of that. No better way to go to the next president and say...i made the right hire prior to arrival , having no time to do the one to hire my failed previous hire due to the timing ....and let me get to work with this “super coach” ....and get football right

The disconnect here is that schiano ....given his understanding of the politics ...would be the right guy for Hobbs to hire to keep his job ....especially because greg is probably the one coach with the best resume confident enough to come on board and feel like he can get it done even with the unknown of who the next school president is .

So if schiano is the slam dunk hire for Hobbs , the biggest donors want schiano, and schiano wants the jobs (which there seems like enough out there to say he does )....what’s the problem

It’s likely a combo of
-Hobbs doesn’t trust schiano to hire him only to see him politic Hobbs out of the job once he is here
-schiano doesn’t want to work for him. He wants an AD that will be with him

There may be other explanations this this...but this seems the most obvious and strong

 

[Steve91562]

Where’s Barchi in all this?

Taking a nap.

Sometimes I wonder whether Barchi (and Hobbs) have overstayed their purpose. Have we already gotten the maximum benefit from these two?

 

[Steve91562]

Is that really a reason for an AD to be fired? Because he cursed in a text message? (And he has a reason to be mad)

Not in isolation but when you stack up the Ash fiasco and swimming coach debacle ... who knows?

 

[RUBound]

Oh please!! Hobbs was a Christie hire, plain and simple. Everyone knows it. You must think politicians are honest.

This

 

[KnightFan]

As long as Schiano or better is the coach and Pike remains men’s coach Hobbs/Baumgartner doesn’t matter.

And Goodale..

 

[Knightmoves]

So expect a token puppet for an AD who can't scratch his *** without Emperor Schiano's say so. That's gonna work out so well in a P5 conference. Staging a coup for a lifetime .500 coach is a clown move.

Could Greg be a co-conspirator in a coup attempt to get rid of Hobbs?

That would not be a good look for him as the next HC. People remember when he selected Pernetti as AD over more qualified candidates.

 

[Spursupalways]

The buzz I'm hearing amounts to a coordinated, high-level booster-led takedown of Pat Hobbs.

Today's news story is not the last - there's more coming.

By Thanksgiving I predict that Pat Hobbs will be our former AD, that Sarah Baumgartner may be our former assistant AD and Greg Schiano will be the next Rutgers football coach.

May God have mercy on our souls.

Two things about this latest Rutgers mess...

No one is taking Hobbs down. He did himself by ignoring a problem with one of his coaches, and acting like a imbecile when he was given the chance to address the issue.

Next, with this latest major scandal in the Athletic Department Schiano isn’t coming anywhere near the place. I honestly don’t know what coach is going to take the job. The only way to give Rutgers Athletics a chance is to completely clean the administrative side of the house and start from scratch.

 

[KnightFan]

I for one assumed (looks like a mistake) that with the mid season firing of a football coach at RU the AD had a strong plan in place that would make sense and we could all say - hey that made sense. That is seemingly not what has transpired so this story may have deep legs. If it is true can we finally stop the political hires and a get a B1G experienced AD on board to professionally run this program?

The whole firing had an underwear gnomes feel to it

FIre Ash + ? = Winning Team

Firing him mid season with no plan and no follow up was insane.. We all wanted blood from Ash, but seriousky, what was accomplished by firing him with no successor lined up?

 

[krup]

Typical Rutgers to find a way to minimize the positive impact a new football coaching hire can make.

Of course the cultists who keep claiming "everybody wants Schiano" wouldn't understand it, but Rutgers will have alienated the just as large "look for the best available coach and if it turns out to be Schiano I will be support him" group with their palace coup.

If this football hire is completed with the same back-stabbing, politics and public embarrassment that has generated the saying "same old Rutgers" for decades, a good portion of the program support Ash lost isn't going to come rushing back.

 

[RU4Real]

Hobbs may not last the season. But just so there’s zero confusion, the OP has a long history of posting outlandish bull **** from his super triple top secret insider sources.

Remember when you breathlessly told us Caroo would never see the light of day again? I’d go on, but @Phi_1055 previously laid it out better than I ever could.




He either has the worst sources ever or makes random **** up to stroke his ego. If I hadn’t met both of them in real life, I’d swear he was Mr. TV.

Yep. I was wrong about both of those things. Two things in 20 years. Oooooh... I really suck.

This could be wrong, too. Except that, as @Knight Shift has already pointed out, the information comes from several disparate and non-colluding sources. When we evaluate raw intel, such things are typically very strong signals.

 

[RUaMoose_rivals]

Is that really a reason for an AD to be fired? Because he cursed in a text message? (And he has a reason to be mad)

Agree. If they're going to fire him, make it for hiring the worst FB HC in RU history.

I don’t know what’s going on over there but what we really need now is continuity. Whether it’s an offensive coordinator or an athletic director we need stability. If all this is true it does not paint the School in a good light. He has raised $100,000,000. Everywhere you look there’s new buildings.Every coach he hired has been an improvement (except football).
If true the whole thing is very bizarre.

That's like saying Nov 22, 1963 was a great day (except for the limo ride). The guy made a multimillion dollar mistake in hiring CA. I'm hearing Bob Mulcahy's famous quote in my head, "An AD has to get the FB hire right" Hobbs didn't just get it wrong he got it historically wrong setting the FB program way back. If this is about the big money donors not wanting Hobbs anywhere near the next FB hire, then it makes some sense to me.

 

[Knight Shift]

And Hobbs was involved in the building of the Prudential Center ... LOL. Dude was a brief Chair of a redevelopment committee. They talked about building that years before his brief time as Chair. As for Quinlan, he was in fact the AD until summer of 2010. Never said he wasn't a dead man walking, but he was AD when Willard was hired.

You have reading comprehension issues. Check your facts. Involved is correct. And same thing with Willard hire. But believe what you want to believe.

 

[Knight Shift]

That person was you when you said Hobbs hiring wasn't political. @WhiteBus

Again, check your facts. There were people here who said Hobbs was forced on us by Gov. Christie. There is no indication that is the case.

 

[bitnez]

Once again, I have no idea if any of this is true, but Hobbs didn’t just make a bad hire. He brought in a guy who cratered the program. We are a national joke again. And, IMO, he continues to make miscalculations. He apparently had no feel for his true relationship with boosters. He thought they would sit back, write a check and trust him, when instead they want a seat at the table.

I’m still not sold that this is some grand conspiracy. I simply think that Hobbs has done such a poor job with football and the folks with deep pockets do not have confidence that he’ll make a good second hire.

 

[ruman]

Once again, I have no idea if any of this is true, but Hobbs didn’t just make a bad hire. He brought in a guy who cratered the program. We are a national joke again. And, IMO, he continues to make miscalculations. He apparently had no feel for his true relationship with boosters. He thought they would sit back, write a check and trust him, when instead they want a seat at the table.

I’m still not sold that this is some grand conspiracy. I simply think that Hobbs has done such a poor job with football and the folks with deep pockets do not have confidence that he’ll make a good second hire.

or make the easy hire sitting right in front of his face

 

[Knight Shift]

Yep. I was wrong about both of those things. Two things in 20 years. Oooooh... I really suck.

This could be wrong, too. Except that, as @Knight Shift has already pointed out, the information comes from several disparate and non-colluding sources. When we evaluate raw intel, such things are typically very strong signals.

And @RU848789 also said he had heard similar thing. And you don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows. As I said above, I am not an insider. I was very skeptical about the Flood coup on the eve of the USF game in 2013, which according to many posters was nearly a done deal, and I turned out to be right on that one. We could all be wrong on this.

 

[bigmatt718]

Could Greg be a co-conspirator in a coup attempt to get rid of Hobbs?

That would not be a good look for him as the next HC. People remember when he selected Pernetti as AD over more qualified candidates.

It's very possible considering the fanboy-esque cult that he has over the program. And we all saw how Pernetti performed in the role when the person pulling the strings left to get chewed up and spit out with the Bucs.

 

[bigmatt718]

Typical Rutgers to find a way to minimize the positive impact a new football coaching hire can make.

Of course the cultists who keep claiming "everybody wants Schiano" wouldn't understand it, but Rutgers will have alienated the just as large "look for the best available coach and if it turns out to be Schiano I will be support him" group with their palace coup.

If this football hire is completed with the same back-stabbing, politics and public embarrassment that has generated the saying "same old Rutgers" for decades, a good portion of the program support Ash lost isn't going to come rushing back.

I'm defecting to OSU if that happens for football. I'll support the other RU sports like wrestling or lax or hoops, but RU football would be dead to me.

 

[MidwestKnights]

Firing people is a part of the job, and he deserved to be fired. He may have been out of line, but it happens. He’s a human, who is under pressure, and he lost his cool. No need for you to be out for blood. Don’t you have anything better to do?

But he's an executive at a very large, very visible organization. You don't handle the media that way EVER .

 

[rurichdog]

Two things about this latest Rutgers mess...

No one is taking Hobbs down. He did himself by ignoring a problem with one of his coaches, and acting like a imbecile when he was given the chance to address the issue.

Next, with this latest major scandal in the Athletic Department Schiano isn’t coming anywhere near the place. I honestly don’t know what coach is going to take the job. The only way to give Rutgers Athletics a chance is to completely clean the administrative side of the house and start from scratch.

Thanks but I think you made a wrong turn. The South Carolina site is here: https://southcarolina.forums.rivals.com/forums/fighting-gamecocks-forum.10/

 

[OriginalKnight]

But he's an executive at a very large, very visible organization. You don't handle the media that way EVER .

What’s your point exactly? I said he was out of line.

 

[S_Janowski]

Lost on the OP’s post is Battaglia being the AD.

If that happens that would be typical Rutgers. Basically Pernetti 2.0 but a lighter version with no experience in anything except fundraising.

 

[mdh2003]

So expect a token puppet for an AD who can't scratch his *** without Emperor Schiano's say so. That's gonna work out so well in a P5 conference. Staging a coup for a lifetime .500 coach is a clown move.

The amount of drama surrounding this AD is WAY out of proportion to it’s relevance. It is amazing, but has always been so. I blame it on the pork roll.

 

[angmo]

That's what SHI said. I haven't had this much fun with a name since I saw Chitty Chitty Bang Bang in 3rd grade.

 

[RuSnp]

The buzz I'm hearing amounts to a coordinated, high-level booster-led takedown of Pat Hobbs.

Today's news story is not the last - there's more coming.

By Thanksgiving I predict that Pat Hobbs will be our former AD, that Sarah Baumgartner may be our former assistant AD and Greg Schiano will be the next Rutgers football coach.

May God have mercy on our souls.

I'm OK with Greg Schiano as AD, but if he gets the job hopefully he has the good sense to pass on Greg Schiano as head football coach and looks more to a Dave Clawson-type.

 

[MidwestKnights]

What’s your point exactly? I said he was out of line.

That what Hobbs said is a fireable offense for someone in his position.

You don't make yourself the story. He responded to a story about abusive behavior with abusive language.

Now it's much harder to stick to the facts that you made a great hire who drastically improved a poorly performing team and some of the players couldn't hack it.

It is a colossal failure of Media 101. Granted Hobb's is probably under tremendous pressure, but he gets paid the big bucks to keep it in check.